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  #11  
Old September 26th 17, 09:16 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?

On 9/24/2017 10:02 AM, Joerg wrote:
For whatever reason the price for Ultima Replenisher (90-serving
canisters) got jacked up, big time. We used to pay around $25 in bulk,
now it's around $40 with shipping. We go through a lot.

Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more reasonably priced?
Orange flavor would be great but doesn't matter much, as long as it's
not any funky or excessively sweet flavor. No artificial sweeteners.


Buy 25kg of coconut water powder for $395. Enough for 1250 bicycle water
bottle fills, at 20 grams per bottle. About 32 cents per bottle.

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Old September 26th 17, 09:19 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 12:47:45 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-26 12:22, Doug Landau wrote:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 12:03:06 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-26 11:09, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 9/26/2017 4:58 AM, somebody wrote:
On 25 Sep 2017 19:03:42 GMT, Robert Latest
wrote:

Joerg wrote:
For whatever reason the price for Ultima Replenisher (90-serving
canisters) got jacked up, big time. We used to pay around $25 in bulk,
now it's around $40 with shipping. We go through a lot.

Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more reasonably
priced?

Yes. Half a teaspoon of table salt per liter. Add two or three of those
fizzy nutrition supplement tablets for additional minerals to taste.
Just
read the ingredients on the original powder to find a long list of
benign non-reasons to buy it.

I use a potassium-based salt substitute. Cheap and it works.

I've done that for years on long and strenuous (for me) rides,
especially in the heat. I do think it helps.

But lately I've been plagued with cramps, either toward the end or hours
after such a ride. A few days ago, a nurse told me it sounded like a
potassium deficiency.


Take more of that supplement?


... I plan to try eating some high potassium foods for
a bit to see if it helps.


My sister says bananas are great. But I guess not when mountain bike
riding in hot weather. Plus you'll have to pack out the peels. And then
old Silver Hoof wants my bananas.


You do NOT have to pack out the peels. Try it sometime and you will see.


You eat the peels? In our area it is very frowned upon by rangers to
chuck them into the bush.


So what? If those guys didn't have deep-seated need to frown on ****, they wouldn't have become rangers in the first place. Means nothing.


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Old September 26th 17, 09:28 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?

On 2017-09-26 13:19, Doug Landau wrote:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 12:47:45 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-26 12:22, Doug Landau wrote:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 12:03:06 PM UTC-7, Joerg
wrote:
On 2017-09-26 11:09, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 9/26/2017 4:58 AM, somebody wrote:
On 25 Sep 2017 19:03:42 GMT, Robert Latest
wrote:

Joerg wrote:
For whatever reason the price for Ultima Replenisher
(90-serving canisters) got jacked up, big time. We used
to pay around $25 in bulk, now it's around $40 with
shipping. We go through a lot.

Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more
reasonably priced?

Yes. Half a teaspoon of table salt per liter. Add two or
three of those fizzy nutrition supplement tablets for
additional minerals to taste. Just read the ingredients
on the original powder to find a long list of benign
non-reasons to buy it.

I use a potassium-based salt substitute. Cheap and it
works.

I've done that for years on long and strenuous (for me)
rides, especially in the heat. I do think it helps.

But lately I've been plagued with cramps, either toward the
end or hours after such a ride. A few days ago, a nurse told
me it sounded like a potassium deficiency.


Take more of that supplement?


... I plan to try eating some high potassium foods for a bit
to see if it helps.


My sister says bananas are great. But I guess not when mountain
bike riding in hot weather. Plus you'll have to pack out the
peels. And then old Silver Hoof wants my bananas.

You do NOT have to pack out the peels. Try it sometime and you
will see.


You eat the peels? In our area it is very frowned upon by rangers
to chuck them into the bush.


So what? If those guys didn't have deep-seated need to frown on
****, they wouldn't have become rangers in the first place. Means
nothing.


Until one of them hands you a ticket for littering which can set you
back several hundred Dollars. I'd applaud the ranger for that.

I never throw anything away in the wilderness or elsewhere. Ever. I find
such behavior very anti-social. In fact, on singletrack I often pack out
stuff that others tossed.

We have enough homeless as it is who do this. They throw whatever they
don't need into the bushes. Disgusting. Unfortunately careless MTB
riders do that as well and it is likely the reason why some trails are
closed for us.

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Regards, Joerg

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Old September 26th 17, 10:10 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?

On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 1:28:07 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-26 13:19, Doug Landau wrote:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 12:47:45 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-26 12:22, Doug Landau wrote:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 12:03:06 PM UTC-7, Joerg
wrote:
On 2017-09-26 11:09, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 9/26/2017 4:58 AM, somebody wrote:
On 25 Sep 2017 19:03:42 GMT, Robert Latest
wrote:

Joerg wrote:
For whatever reason the price for Ultima Replenisher
(90-serving canisters) got jacked up, big time. We used
to pay around $25 in bulk, now it's around $40 with
shipping. We go through a lot.

Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more
reasonably priced?

Yes. Half a teaspoon of table salt per liter. Add two or
three of those fizzy nutrition supplement tablets for
additional minerals to taste. Just read the ingredients
on the original powder to find a long list of benign
non-reasons to buy it.

I use a potassium-based salt substitute. Cheap and it
works.

I've done that for years on long and strenuous (for me)
rides, especially in the heat. I do think it helps.

But lately I've been plagued with cramps, either toward the
end or hours after such a ride. A few days ago, a nurse told
me it sounded like a potassium deficiency.


Take more of that supplement?


... I plan to try eating some high potassium foods for a bit
to see if it helps.


My sister says bananas are great. But I guess not when mountain
bike riding in hot weather. Plus you'll have to pack out the
peels. And then old Silver Hoof wants my bananas.

You do NOT have to pack out the peels. Try it sometime and you
will see.


You eat the peels? In our area it is very frowned upon by rangers
to chuck them into the bush.


So what? If those guys didn't have deep-seated need to frown on
****, they wouldn't have become rangers in the first place. Means
nothing.


Until one of them hands you a ticket for littering which can set you
back several hundred Dollars. I'd applaud the ranger for that.

Fortunately he is rarely there when you take the last bite, and when he is, you can refrain.

I never throw anything away in the wilderness or elsewhere. Ever. I find
such behavior very anti-social. In fact, on singletrack I often pack out
stuff that others tossed.

A banana peel is plant material and will return to being soil soon enough.

We have enough homeless as it is who do this. They throw whatever they
don't need into the bushes. Disgusting. Unfortunately careless MTB
riders do that as well and it is likely the reason why some trails are
closed for us.

The problem of, and problems associated with, human poverty is neither here nor there.

None of this is based upon logic. It is Puritanism.
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Old September 26th 17, 11:16 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 9/26/2017 2:10 PM, Doug Landau wrote:

snip

A banana peel is plant material and will return to being soil soon enough.


It will not. Nor will orange peels. Don't get caught doing this by a
park ranger or police officer. It's a hefty fine.
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Old September 27th 17, 12:38 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?

On 2017-09-26 15:16, sms wrote:
On 9/26/2017 2:10 PM, Doug Landau wrote:

snip

A banana peel is plant material and will return to being soil soon
enough.


It will not. Nor will orange peels. Don't get caught doing this by a
park ranger or police officer. It's a hefty fine.



As it should be. I find it said that some people think it's ok to litter.

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Old September 27th 17, 01:24 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 3:16:06 PM UTC-7, sms wrote:
On 9/26/2017 2:10 PM, Doug Landau wrote:

snip

A banana peel is plant material and will return to being soil soon enough.


It will not. Nor will orange peels. Don't get caught doing this by a
park ranger or police officer. It's a hefty fine.


Some think they're good for the soil:
http://homeguides.sfgate.com/banana-...den-31257.html
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Old September 27th 17, 02:10 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Tue, 26 Sep 2017 11:05:51 -0700, Joerg
wrote:

On 2017-09-26 10:26, wrote:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 9:25:00 AM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 7:31:49 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-26 01:58, somebody wrote:
On 25 Sep 2017 19:03:42 GMT, Robert Latest
wrote:

Joerg wrote:
For whatever reason the price for Ultima Replenisher
(90-serving canisters) got jacked up, big time. We used to
pay around $25 in bulk, now it's around $40 with shipping.
We go through a lot.

Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more
reasonably priced?

Yes. Half a teaspoon of table salt per liter. Add two or
three of those fizzy nutrition supplement tablets for
additional minerals to taste. Just read the ingredients on
the original powder to find a long list of benign non-reasons
to buy it.

I use a potassium-based salt substitute. Cheap and it works.


Meaning it reliably prevents cramps and bonks? IOW the potassium
is the only ingredient in those drinks that a longhaul cyclist
really needs? I didn't know that but it sure would be nice.

No, you bonk because you're out of glycogen and not electrolytes.
Drink more beer. ...



Hence I repurposed my old office thermos and use it to carry homemade
IPA along on some long trips in the boonies where there are no pubs. No
Snickers bars though, my wife makes homemade bars with the good stuff in
there. Lots of nuts and bacon bits, among many other things.

So far I bonked only once, way back after I started riding again.

Does anyone know this stuff?

https://www.vitamonk.com/products/fo...rolyte-formula


I think the mention of "pink Himalayan Salt" might just be a giveaway.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himalayan_salt
"Himalayan salt is rock salt or halite from the Punjab region of
Pakistan. No scientific evidence has been provided to prove that
Himalayan salt has substantial benefits compared to common salt, and
such claims should be treated as pseudoscience."

The price is right but unfortunately only pills. A bit low in magnesium
but I take those every day already because of back issues.


... Take a Snickers bar. Keep up your energy so you
can ride with the mountain lions. https://tinyurl.com/ya8vqq55



Cool. The only one we saw live didn't have a bike. But it took a
neighbor's dog :-(


I agree but you still have to maintain your electrolytes. Just drink
a Red Bull and that will be taken care of.


I prefer IPA :-)

--
Cheers,

John B.

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Old September 27th 17, 02:14 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 9/26/2017 7:24 PM, Doug Landau wrote:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 3:16:06 PM UTC-7, sms wrote:
On 9/26/2017 2:10 PM, Doug Landau wrote:

snip

A banana peel is plant material and will return to being soil soon enough.


It will not. Nor will orange peels. Don't get caught doing this by a
park ranger or police officer. It's a hefty fine.


Some think they're good for the soil:
http://homeguides.sfgate.com/banana-...den-31257.html


Maybe _your_ soil.
People who manage public lands are more excited about
arranging chronic very large fires and shooting the owls
that outbreed their preferred owls:

http://www.npr.org/2014/01/15/262735...pecies-is-shot

Fortunately we have public experts who can disabuse the
public of their innate common sense.

--
Andrew Muzi
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Open every day since 1 April, 1971


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Old September 27th 17, 03:07 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?

On Sun, 24 Sep 2017 10:02:35 -0700, Joerg
wrote:

Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more reasonably priced?


I use diluted orange juice.

Usually one tablespoon of juice per water bottle.

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