"once again the selfishness, arrogance, and stupidity of some mt. bikers is being displayed"

"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
...
In my experience, it is ALL mountain bikers that are selfish, arrogant,
and
stupid.

Mike


In MY experience, it is you that is selfish, arrogant, stupid. But, hey,
that's just me.

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 06:46:57 GMT, Brett Jaffee
wrote:

..Mike Vandeman wrote in
:
..
.. I just tell the truth -- something that drives mountain bikers crazy.
.. ===
..
..Ah yes...like when you claimed horses had more of a right to be on trails
..on trails than bikes because they were native to North America...until some
..pointed out to you that horses are in fact, not native to North America.
..At which point, you tried to cover your ass by saying you weren't talking
..about modern horses. Seems like a lie to me, unless you were trying to
..imply that it's okay for prehistoric horses to be on the trails (which
..would be assinine, even for you).

Horses ARE native to North America. In fact, they evolved here. See:

Flannery, Tim, The Eternal Frontier -- An Ecological History of North America
and Its Peoples. New York: Grove Press,2001.



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On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 07:51:45 -0600, "Jason" wrote:

..
.."Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
. ..
.. On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:03:57 GMT, "Michael Paul" mfpaul

.. wrote:
..
.. .
.. .
.. . Reliable knowledge starts with HONESTY, something mountain bikers have
.. .NONE of.
.. . You guys apparently think you can't defend your selfish, destructive
..sport
.. . unless you LIE. I have demonstrated that over & over.
.. .
.. .
.. .the number of times you use circular logic to defend your position is
..simply
.. .amazing. I have no idea how you made it through high school, let alone
.. .obtained a PhD with such poor logic skills. The liar liar pants on fire
.. .defense stopped working when most people turned about 9 but it seems to
..be
.. .one you have embraced. Excellent work Doctor
..
.. I just tell the truth -- something that drives mountain bikers crazy.
.. ===
.. I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
.. humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
.. years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
..
.. http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
..
..No you LIE, you say the Candyman Sting does not exist, but it does. Proof
..you lie, as you are lying right now DUH!

You took that out of context. I was referring to the involvement if someone
named "Mike Vandeman", which was a pure fabrication by a mountain biker.
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years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Mike Vandeman wrote in
:


Horses ARE native to North America. In fact, they evolved here. See:


Yes, we established they evolved here in the previous thread, however, they
went extinct 10,000 years ago in North America and are no longer considered
native.

That still doesn't explain your "I wasnt talking about modern horses"
comment either.

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:50:33 GMT, Brett Jaffee
wrote:

..Mike Vandeman wrote in
:
..
..
.. Horses ARE native to North America. In fact, they evolved here. See:
..
..
..Yes, we established they evolved here in the previous thread, however, they
..went extinct 10,000 years ago in North America and are no longer considered
..native.

By WHOM? They were restored. You don't call eradication of a population as
extinction. Horses (which includes more than one species) are native to North
America. They were eradicated and restored.
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humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:10:04 -0800, "Jeff Strickland"
wrote:

In MY experience, it is you that is selfish, arrogant, stupid. But, hey,
that's just me.

Well, not *just* you. Everybody apart from Mike's mother probably
thinks that about him.

Guy
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* Just zis Guy, you know? :
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:10:04 -0800, "Jeff Strickland"
wrote:

In MY experience, it is you that is selfish, arrogant, stupid. But, hey,
that's just me.

Well, not *just* you. Everybody apart from Mike's mother probably
thinks that about him.

Guy

And we're thinking that she too thinks that about Mikey also.

Jason