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Sydney City Council Cycle Plan
cfsmtb wrote:
EuanB Wrote: Width is a factor. IMO the most important factors a 1) Cyclists not in the line of sight of other road users (until the very last instant) 2) Cyclists coming from a direction unexpected by other road users. They will have traffic lights to control bikes and cars at intersections. If you want to turn right I guess you will have a separate phase. 3) Bar ends. No I'm not being completely facetious here either. No, yr right about that. Interesting times in Sydney, it seems most of the progressive transport initiatives are coming from either the Greens or Liberals. ALP? They went MIA until the very last moment, see here; http://www.vote4cycling.com.au/candidate_survey.html For starters at the local government level, there's Cr Shayne Mallard and Cr Norman Jew ? He passed some IMHO silly motion at the LGA conference about all off road cycleways in new subdivisions- doesnt believe cyclists should be on the road. doing a lot of excellent work on behalf of cyclists. Also there's some very switched on local government employees, although general networking up in NSW isn't as good as down here in Vic, ie: we've got Sustainable Transport Officers in many local councils. But the NSW situation can be worked upon & improved. you can download the whole City bike plan from the cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au site, under committees/planning. It was up for approval yesterday. A quick squizz at it and they have changed Kent St to a Local Route and are thinking of using Clarence St as the main link to the bridge. Attachments A and C have diagrams of the proposed 2 way bike lanes, and there _are_ Bollards. Seems they have had a major rethink since the plan was released for comment last year and have decided car door lanes are no good and are going for these two way cycle lanes on one side instead on some main routes. Some have a 0.7 metre median between cars and bikes, others seem to have just a narrow line of bollards separating moving traffic or parked cars from bikes. Seems they are ignoring the RTA guidelines about not having vertical obstacles right next to a cyclepath - to allow for handlebar or pedal clearance. Still have to watch out for opening car doors (as cars will be parked in some cases next to the bollards) and people stepping out of cars onto the cycle lane. |
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Sydney City Council Cycle Plan
TimC wrote:
Bollards. The ****ing solution to everything. Stupid ****ers. Naah, round here it is 1) speed humps, for a decade now. Always speed humps. 2) those upside U shapes ACROSS the bicycle path in disjoint pairs. |
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Sydney City Council Cycle Plan
Robert Moore Wrote: ? He passed some IMHO silly motion at the LGA conference about all off road cycleways in new subdivisions- doesnt believe cyclists should be on the road. Fair call, although keep in mind Cr Jew is a relatively recent convert to cycling, so his newbie perspective may broaden with more experience. Although I can't really fault his attitude for overall safer cycling facilities, see more he http://www.rideforlife.com.au/ -- cfsmtb |
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Sydney City Council Cycle Plan
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 02:05:07 +1000, Robert Moore wrote:
They will have traffic lights to control bikes and cars at intersections. If you want to turn right I guess you will have a separate phase. Lights are the RTA's responsibility (good luck). And what happens at drive ways, parking entrances, alleys, side streets, pedestrian crossings etc.? I haven't seen reports of anything similar working, guess we will have to see what the council and RTA come up with. Though it sounds like something that should be trialed before being rolled out on a large scale. So two way cycle paths are now "Bike Roads". And report lists them as only be considered, and then built within a budget that is far lower than the sum of the proposed work in the old draft plan. A lot of the plan is dependant on State Government authorities and with Bike Plan 2010 and regional routes effectively scrapped are uncertain. you can download the whole City bike plan from the cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au site, under committees/planning. It was up for approval yesterday. A quick squizz at it and they have changed Kent St to a Local Route and are thinking of using Clarence St as the main link to the bridge. The Kent St becomes less attractive with the State Government reversing the lane changes for the Cross City Tunnel around Town Hall. dewatf. |
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