Australian Design Standards ( Helmets )

On a recent trip to the USA I bought myself a Giro Atmos Helmet, and a much
cheaper price than I would get it here.
However after reading some posts a while back, it seems that this helmet is
not approved for Australian Roads.

However I have a Giro Eclipse which is ?
Whats the story with this issue.

Why wouldn't the top of the line helmet not meet Australian standards.

I mean , I am sure it is very safe in the event of a crash, as I am sure
Lance Armstrong wouldn't wear it if it were dangerous.

Whats the issue, and what implications do I have if I wear this helmet and
have an accident ?

Thanks for any feedback on this.

Ian

"Ian Jey" wrote in message
...
On a recent trip to the USA I bought myself a Giro Atmos Helmet, and a
much
cheaper price than I would get it here.
However after reading some posts a while back, it seems that this helmet
is
not approved for Australian Roads.

However I have a Giro Eclipse which is ?
Whats the story with this issue.

Why wouldn't the top of the line helmet not meet Australian standards.

I mean , I am sure it is very safe in the event of a crash, as I am sure
Lance Armstrong wouldn't wear it if it were dangerous.

Whats the issue, and what implications do I have if I wear this helmet and
have an accident ?

Thanks for any feedback on this.

Ian



Hmm
This question seems to pop up every week.

The general answer is that it hasn't been approved because it hasn't been
submitted for approval. It hasn't been submitted for approval because it
costs about $30 000 to go through the testing and approval process and the
manufacturers/suppliers don't think they'll sell enough to cover the costs.
However, just because it isn't approved doesn't mean it isn't a good helmet
or won't meet the Australian Standards.

Marty

Ian Jey Wrote:
On a recent trip to the USA I bought myself a Giro Atmos Helmet, and
much
cheaper price than I would get it here.
However after reading some posts a while back, it seems that thi
helmet is
not approved for Australian Roads.

However I have a Giro Eclipse which is ?
Whats the story with this issue.

Why wouldn't the top of the line helmet not meet Australian standards.

I mean , I am sure it is very safe in the event of a crash, as I a
sure
Lance Armstrong wouldn't wear it if it were dangerous.

Whats the issue, and what implications do I have if I wear this helme
and
have an accident ?

Thanks for any feedback on this.

Ian

The helmet probably does meet the Australian Standard but th
distributor or manufacturer has to pay to get the particular mode
certified. (which means you don't know if it complies or not).

If you are injured and your helmet does not comply, it gives an insure
a reason to deny you a claim.

Ritc

--
ritcho

On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 at 04:21 GMT, ritcho (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Ian Jey Wrote:
Whats the issue, and what implications do I have if I wear this helmet
and
have an accident ?

Thanks for any feedback on this.

Ian

The helmet probably does meet the Australian Standard but the
distributor or manufacturer has to pay to get the particular model
certified. (which means you don't know if it complies or not).

If you are injured and your helmet does not comply, it gives an insurer
a reason to deny you a claim.

Read also the issue ~ lastweek with the person who got pulled over and
booked by the Police because the helmet didn't satisfy the .au
standards.

--
TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/
Er, RFC 882 put the dot in .com.

Ian Jey wrote:

On a recent trip to the USA I bought myself a Giro Atmos Helmet, and a much
cheaper price than I would get it here.
However after reading some posts a while back, it seems that this helmet is
not approved for Australian Roads.

However I have a Giro Eclipse which is ?
Whats the story with this issue.

Why wouldn't the top of the line helmet not meet Australian standards.

I mean , I am sure it is very safe in the event of a crash, as I am sure
Lance Armstrong wouldn't wear it if it were dangerous.

Whats the issue, and what implications do I have if I wear this helmet and
have an accident ?

Thanks for any feedback on this.

Ian

Hi Ian
I see that the Giro helmets meet US and European standards.

According to the Qld TORUM Regulations:
"approved bicycle helmet" means a helmet that complies with --
(a) AS 2063.1 and 2063.2; or
(b) another standard the chief executive considers is at least equal to
that standard.

I don't think there is an AS 2063.1 any more. When I looked on the
Australian Standards site AS 2063.1 had become AS 2063. I've written to
Qld Transport to ask whether the chief executive has approved any other
standards.

It doesn't appear that the minister has to approve of this change.

I'd be writing to my local state/territory MP if I was you. Tell him/her
that you have this top notch helmet from the US but can't be sure
whether you can wear it in Australia. Ask whether helmets conforming
with the United States CPSC safety standard for bicycle helmets and/or
the the European Personal Protective Equipment Directive 89/686/EEC are
approved for use in your state/territory. If they aren't, ask "why not?"

From what I understand, the history of the Australian standard has been
to act as more of a trade barrier and protect local manufacturers than
to provide additional safety protection to cyclists.

Peter

--
Peter McCallum
Mackay Qld AUSTRALIA

Peter McCallum Wrote:
Ian Jey wrote

On a recent trip to the USA I bought myself a Giro Atmos Helmet, an
a muc
cheaper price than I would get it here
However after reading some posts a while back, it seems that thi
helmet i
not approved for Australian Roads

However I have a Giro Eclipse which is
Whats the story with this issue

Why wouldn't the top of the line helmet not meet Australia
standards

I mean , I am sure it is very safe in the event of a crash, as I a
sur
Lance Armstrong wouldn't wear it if it were dangerous

Whats the issue, and what implications do I have if I wear thi
helmet an
have an accident

Thanks for any feedback on this

Ia

Hi Ia
I see that the Giro helmets meet US and European standards

According to the Qld TORUM Regulations
"approved bicycle helmet" means a helmet that complies with -
(a) AS 2063.1 and 2063.2; o
(b) another standard the chief executive considers is at least equal t
that standard

I don't think there is an AS 2063.1 any more. When I looked on th
Australian Standards site AS 2063.1 had become AS 2063. I've written t
Qld Transport to ask whether the chief executive has approved any othe
standards

It doesn't appear that the minister has to approve of this change

I'd be writing to my local state/territory MP if I was you. Tel
him/he
that you have this top notch helmet from the US but can't be sur
whether you can wear it in Australia. Ask whether helmets conformin
with the United States CPSC safety standard for bicycle helmets and/o
the the European Personal Protective Equipment Directive 89/686/EEC ar
approved for use in your state/territory. If they aren't, ask "wh
not?

From what I understand, the history of the Australian standard has bee
to act as more of a trade barrier and protect local manufacturers tha
to provide additional safety protection to cyclists

Pete

-
Peter McCallu
Mackay Qld AUSTRALIA

Bugger, did we not get Giro Bike Helmets into the US/Australian Fre
Trade Agreement negotiations

Steve

--
SteveA

SteveA wrote:
Bugger, did we not get Giro Bike Helmets into the US/Australian Free
Trade Agreement negotiations?

SteveA

No, I think you'll find they were blocked by the changes in regard to
the PBS.

--
Peter McCallum
Mackay Qld AUSTRALIA

On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 at 07:37 GMT, Peter McCallum (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
SteveA wrote:
Bugger, did we not get Giro Bike Helmets into the US/Australian Free
Trade Agreement negotiations?

SteveA

No, I think you'll find they were blocked by the changes in regard to
the PBS.

Yay! Another effect of the senate being rendered useless after July
next year is that they will probably just go back to the original
agreement, fsck over PBS, fsck over the Australian computer industry
(same IP issue - the computer industry in America is the only industry
that has the burden being subject of two Intellectual Property laws -
patents are unnecessary and an enormous burden on software
development; now Australia is going to have to put up with them as
well).

How's this for scary?:
http://lists.essential.org/pipermail...ry/005844.html

--
TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/
"If you already know what recursion is, just remember the answer. Otherwise,
find someone who is standing closer to Douglas Hofstadter than you are; then
ask him or her what recursion is." -- Andrew "Zarf" Plotkin

"Peter McCallum" wrote in message
om.au...
SteveA wrote:
Bugger, did we not get Giro Bike Helmets into the US/Australian Free
Trade Agreement negotiations?

SteveA

No, I think you'll find they were blocked by the changes in regard to
the PBS.

--
Peter McCallum
Mackay Qld AUSTRALIA

Doesn't Australia make better helmets anyway?

Marty

"Marty Wallace" wrote in message
om.au...

Doesn't Australia make better helmets anyway?

Yay, Rosebank!! Much better than Met or Bell (NOT!)

Cheers
Peter