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Cycle Tour - South Island of New Zealand - March 2008
G'day
This popped up on the Touring mailing list and thought it might interest some folks here. It is a tour of part of the South Island in New Zealand next year in March. I would love to do it personally but will be there in January and somehow don't think I can get away with two visits so close together. Anyway the website can be found at http://www.nomints.com/trips-2008-02...ike/Index.html Regards Andrew ----- Churchlands, Western Australia Giant CRX 1; Giant Boulder SE http://aushiker.com http://www.bicyclewa.com.au/blog/8 http://backpackgeartest.org http://geocaching.com.au |
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Cycle Tour - South Island of New Zealand - March 2008
Thanks for the post Andrew - it looks like a great tour and a great
source for other great tours in the future! Peter Damm |
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Cycle Tour - South Island of New Zealand - March 2008
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:04:49 +0800, Andrew Priest wrote:
G'day This popped up on the Touring mailing list and thought it might interest some folks here. It is a tour of part of the South Island in New Zealand next year in March. I would love to do it personally but will be there in January and somehow don't think I can get away with two visits so close together. Anyway the website can be found at http://www.nomints.com/trips-2008-02...ike/Index.html Regards Andrew ----- Churchlands, Western Australia Giant CRX 1; Giant Boulder SE http://aushiker.com http://www.bicyclewa.com.au/blog/8 http://backpackgeartest.org http://geocaching.com.au I note the word "helmet" is found nowhere on the website. This is dishonest. I think prospective tourers should be made aware of the helmet law which applies in NZ, so that they can be forewarned, and those who would not tour if they had to wear a helmet could be alerted before they made the expensive trip. Peter The Kiwi bird is very aptly New Zealand's national emblem. It is a bird which cannot fly. It only comes out at night. It has nostrils at the end of its long beak, and It is always poking its nose into things. |
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On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:20:19 +0000 (UTC), Peter Keller
wrote: I note the word "helmet" is found nowhere on the website. This is dishonest. I think prospective tourers should be made aware of the helmet law which applies in NZ, so that they can be forewarned, and those who would not tour if they had to wear a helmet could be alerted before they made the expensive trip. Hi Peter With the greatest respect, saying this is dishonest, unless you know the specifics provided about the tour, is well pretty rich IMO and really unnecessary. It does make it clear that you have to "'apply" to go on a tour and that you have to agree to the requirements. Given helmets are required in NZ I assume that would be one of the requirements. Don't you think? Of course I could be wrong, but given the guy has toured there before, I would expect this information to be provided as part of the detail. From reading the website it is very clear that you need to contact them for full details (the website clearly does not provide all the details), provide information about yourself etc before confirming to the tour. Regards Andrew ----- Churchlands, Western Australia Giant CRX 1; Giant Boulder SE http://aushiker.com http://www.bicyclewa.com.au/blog/8 http://backpackgeartest.org http://geocaching.com.au |
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On Sep 27, 6:20 pm, Peter Keller wrote:
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:04:49 +0800, Andrew Priest wrote: G'day This popped up on the Touring mailing list and thought it might interest some folks here. It is a tour of part of the South Island in New Zealand next year in March. I would love to do it personally but will be there in January and somehow don't think I can get away with two visits so close together. Anyway the website can be found at http://www.nomints.com/trips-2008-02...ike/Index.html Regards Andrew ----- Churchlands, Western Australia Giant CRX 1; Giant Boulder SE http://aushiker.comhttp://www.bicyclewa.com.au/blog/8 http://backpackgeartest.orghttp://geocaching.com.au I note the word "helmet" is found nowhere on the website. This is dishonest. I think prospective tourers should be made aware of the helmet law which applies in NZ, so that they can be forewarned, and those who would not tour if they had to wear a helmet could be alerted before they made the expensive trip. Peter The Kiwi bird is very aptly New Zealand's national emblem. It is a bird which cannot fly. It only comes out at night. It has nostrils at the end of its long beak, and It is always poking its nose into things. Peter I'd better warn you that if you ever come riding in Australia, not only will you need to wear a helmet, but you will need to buy it here. The law is that the helmet must meet the Australian Standard, and that means it will have a little shiny sticker. Exactly the same helmet, which you can buy in the UK for around half the price, is not good enough. Doubly ripped off? I'll say. |
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Donga wrote:
On Sep 27, 6:20 pm, Peter Keller wrote: On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:04:49 +0800, Andrew Priest wrote: G'day This popped up on the Touring mailing list and thought it might interest some folks here. It is a tour of part of the South Island in New Zealand next year in March. I would love to do it personally but will be there in January and somehow don't think I can get away with two visits so close together. Anyway the website can be found at http://www.nomints.com/trips-2008-02...ike/Index.html Regards Andrew ----- Churchlands, Western Australia Giant CRX 1; Giant Boulder SE http://aushiker.comhttp://www.bicyclewa.com.au/blog/8 http://backpackgeartest.orghttp://geocaching.com.au I note the word "helmet" is found nowhere on the website. This is dishonest. I think prospective tourers should be made aware of the helmet law which applies in NZ, so that they can be forewarned, and those who would not tour if they had to wear a helmet could be alerted before they made the expensive trip. Peter The Kiwi bird is very aptly New Zealand's national emblem. It is a bird which cannot fly. It only comes out at night. It has nostrils at the end of its long beak, and It is always poking its nose into things. Peter I'd better warn you that if you ever come riding in Australia, not only will you need to wear a helmet, but you will need to buy it here. The law is that the helmet must meet the Australian Standard, and that means it will have a little shiny sticker. Exactly the same helmet, which you can buy in the UK for around half the price, is not good enough. Doubly ripped off? I'll say. Unless you're doing an Ironman triathlon, in which case you may wear a helmet which meets the Ironman helmet standards of that country, (which are normally that of the national standard.) Dorfus |
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On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:37:52 +0800, Andrew Priest wrote:
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:20:19 +0000 (UTC), Peter Keller wrote: I note the word "helmet" is found nowhere on the website. This is dishonest. I think prospective tourers should be made aware of the helmet law which applies in NZ, so that they can be forewarned, and those who would not tour if they had to wear a helmet could be alerted before they made the expensive trip. Hi Peter With the greatest respect, saying this is dishonest, unless you know the specifics provided about the tour, is well pretty rich IMO and really unnecessary. It does make it clear that you have to "'apply" to go on a tour and that you have to agree to the requirements. Given helmets are required in NZ I assume that would be one of the requirements. Don't you think? Of course I could be wrong, but given the guy has toured there before, I would expect this information to be provided as part of the detail. From reading the website it is very clear that you need to contact them for full details (the website clearly does not provide all the details), provide information about yourself etc before confirming to the tour. Regards Andrew There is a section on bike equipment and clothing. Helmets not mentioned. There are lots of people in the rest of the world who may be interested in these tours, but not if they have to wear a helmet. Such (and all) people are entitled to early relevant information. Australians and NZ'ers know about the strange situation existing in our countries regarding bicycling laws, but we two countries are the odd ones out. People coming from the rest of the world have to be made aware of this fact. In New Zealand the official line is the dishonest one, that helmets should not be mentioned in any bicycling promotions. This is to try and undo the impression that bicycling is excessively dangerous; so much so that one must wear a helmet by law. Peter -- The Kiwi bird is very aptly New Zealand's national emblem. It is a bird which cannot fly. It only comes out at night. It has nostrils at the end of its long beak, and It is always poking its nose into things. |
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On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 07:54:46 +0000 (UTC), Peter Keller
wrote: There is a section on bike equipment and clothing. Helmets not mentioned. Care to provide the link? I can't find it and can't find anything related to this proposed trip other than having to contact them for further details. Regards Andrew ----- Churchlands, Western Australia Giant CRX 1; Giant Boulder SE http://aushiker.com http://www.bicyclewa.com.au/blog/8 http://backpackgeartest.org http://geocaching.com.au |
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On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 09:50:39 +0800, Andrew Priest wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 07:54:46 +0000 (UTC), Peter Keller wrote: There is a section on bike equipment and clothing. Helmets not mentioned. Care to provide the link? I can't find it and can't find anything related to this proposed trip other than having to contact them for further details. http://www.nomints.com/trips-2008-02...ike/Index.html About 1/3 of the way down in a section marked Equipment: I agree the site is very sparse on specifics. And I am concerned that what an Australian or NZer would find essential for bike touring and therefore not worthy of further thought, may not coincide with what an European, say, would find essential. But perhaps caveat emptor? it is up to the rest of the world to try and inform themselves of the peculiar conditions pertaining to bicycle touring in our countries? Peter -- The Kiwi bird is very aptly New Zealand's national emblem. It is a bird which cannot fly. It only comes out at night. It has nostrils at the end of its long beak, and It is always poking its nose into things. |
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On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 07:26:57 +0000 (UTC), Peter Keller
wrote: On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 09:50:39 +0800, Andrew Priest wrote: On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 07:54:46 +0000 (UTC), Peter Keller wrote: http://www.nomints.com/trips-2008-02...ike/Index.html About 1/3 of the way down in a section marked Equipment: Thanks. I agree this section should mention helmets given the other general nature. Andrew ----- Churchlands, Western Australia Giant CRX 1; Giant Boulder SE http://aushiker.com http://www.bicyclewa.com.au/blog/8 http://backpackgeartest.org http://geocaching.com.au |
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