Oregon vs California law graphic

Bill Zaumen wrote:[i]
Tom Sherman writes:

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:

Do California drivers actually pay attention to the drivers' manual
beyond rote memorization for the tests? If so, their (California
drivers') behavior is highly unusual.
You claimed they didn't know the law. They do know it. When they
ignore it, it is done on purpose.

Knowing the law enough to answer multiple choice questions on a test
and understanding and retaining the information are two different
things (in the real world).
There's a driving part of the test too.
Not many drive in the real world the same way they would while taking
the test.
You don't think you are in the "real world" while taking a driving
test?
If you mean that they behave better, that's true when they see a police
car as well. The bottom line is that they know what the laws are, but
may choose to ignore them when they think they can get away with it.

Leave out "they know what the laws are" and Zaumen has it right.

Like Zaumen's "idiot" comment above?
It's quite approprate given your childish behavior.

Citation?
Idiot.

Citation?
Your comments above will do.

Peer reviewed citation?
You are an idiot.

Zaumen must have a keyboard macro for "You are an idiot".
Idiot.

Fingers getting tired? Write your macro!

Idiot

A man of too few words. To what does idiot refer to in this context?

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Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:


If a burglar steals $1000 in property versus $2000 in property on
one heist, the sentence is not going to be twice as long, all else
being equal.
Oh, BTW, Charles Keating got a 10 year sentence in 1992, followed by
a
12.5 year sentence in 1993, and was released after 4.5 years. His
sentences were eventually overturned. That's not counting the civil
cases, nor a subsequent conviction for bankruptcy fraud, where he was
sentence to time already served.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Keating

Yes, and if someone committed enough store robberies to steel as much
as Keating, and was caught and convicted for all of them, the combined
sentences would be much greater that what Keating received. Duh!
You obviously missed the point, and your "Duh" just shows your
stupidity.

No Zaumen, you failed to make a logical point.

Let the punishment fit the race and class, not the crime!
Idiot.
Sarcasm detector broken?
No, stupid-comment detector working.

Is Zaumen showing a bias towards the upper classes here?

You are an idiot.

Let it be noted that Mr. Zaumen refused to address the question, and
instead resorted to an insult.

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Tom Sherman writes:

Bill Zaumen wrote:
If a burglar steals $1000 in property versus $2000 in property on
one heist, the sentence is not going to be twice as long, all else
being equal.
Oh, BTW, Charles Keating got a 10 year sentence in 1992, followed by
a
12.5 year sentence in 1993, and was released after 4.5 years. His
sentences were eventually overturned. That's not counting the civil
cases, nor a subsequent conviction for bankruptcy fraud, where he was
sentence to time already served.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Keating

Yes, and if someone committed enough store robberies to steel as much
as Keating, and was caught and convicted for all of them, the combined
sentences would be much greater that what Keating received. Duh!
You obviously missed the point, and your "Duh" just shows your
stupidity.

No Zaumen, you failed to make a logical point.

Sherman, you are an idiot.
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Tom Sherman writes:

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:
No, you are an idiot.

Peer reviewed citation?
Idiot.

Can we take this to mean that Zaumen is unable to produce said
citation, so he merely repeats his insult?
That you are an idiot is an obvious fact.

Mr. Zaumen is committing the elementary error of confusing opinion
with fact.

Idiot.



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Tom Sherman writes:

Bill Zaumen wrote:
Tom Sherman writes:

Citation?
Idiot.

Citation?
Your comments above will do.

Peer reviewed citation?
You are an idiot.

Zaumen must have a keyboard macro for "You are an idiot".
Idiot.

Fingers getting tired? Write your macro!
Idiot

A man of too few words. To what does idiot refer to in this context?

Idiot.

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Eric Vey writes:

Bill Z. wrote:
Eric Vey writes:

Bill Z. wrote:
Eric Vey writes:


Gotten so common that the police have a new policy not to chase them
anymore because chases endanger the public safety. Stolen cars and hit
and runs are getting so common that they don't make the newspaper
anymore. Same as in So. Cal., from what I was told by a guy yesterday
who is here looking for work.
Conspiracy theory.
meaningless example of who knows what snipped


Oh? BZ is an expert about FL as well as SoCal. Here is a story about it:

Your "story" proves you are an idiot like Sherman.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in998201.shtml

(CBS) Run from a police officer, and his first instinct will likely be
to chase 'til the wheels fall off — even for minor crimes. But
these chases can come at dangerously great speeds, reports, CBS News
correspondent Mark Strassmann, carrying even greater risks.

Police chases kill more than 300 people a year. And one-third of them
are innocent bystanders.

.... which has nothing to do with your claim about "gotten so common".
Your lastest "story" simply points out that the risk of a high speed
chase can outweigh the benefits of catching a criminal. It has nothing
to do with how "common" it is.

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Bill Z. wrote:
Eric Vey writes:

Bill Z. wrote:
Eric Vey writes:

Bill Z. wrote:
Eric Vey writes:


Gotten so common that the police have a new policy not to chase them
anymore because chases endanger the public safety. Stolen cars and hit
and runs are getting so common that they don't make the newspaper
anymore. Same as in So. Cal., from what I was told by a guy yesterday
who is here looking for work.
Conspiracy theory.
meaningless example of who knows what snipped

Oh? BZ is an expert about FL as well as SoCal. Here is a story about it:

Your "story" proves you are an idiot like Sherman.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in998201.shtml

(CBS) Run from a police officer, and his first instinct will likely be
to chase 'til the wheels fall off — even for minor crimes. But
these chases can come at dangerously great speeds, reports, CBS News
correspondent Mark Strassmann, carrying even greater risks.

Police chases kill more than 300 people a year. And one-third of them
are innocent bystanders.

... which has nothing to do with your claim about "gotten so common".
Your lastest "story" simply points out that the risk of a high speed
chase can outweigh the benefits of catching a criminal. It has nothing
to do with how "common" it is.


LOL. I guess one almost every day isn't "common" enough for you. Since
it was the weekend and few reporters work the weekend, we have to catch up.
Here is one from this morning:
Suspect Arrested In Thornton Park After Bailing From Car
http://www.wftv.com/news/15332537/detail.html

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Orlando police were still looking for one man Monday
after a routine traffic stop led to a drug arrest.

Officers pulled over a car at Jefferson Street and Brown Avenue just
after 1:00am Monday. The two men jumped out and ran.

Officers said they found some marijuana in the car.

A K-9 unit found one man hiding behind a nearby home in Thornton Park.
The other man was still on the loose Monday afternoon.

Bill Z. wrote:
Eric Vey writes:

Bill Z. wrote:
Eric Vey writes:

Bill Z. wrote:
Eric Vey writes:


Gotten so common that the police have a new policy not to chase them
anymore because chases endanger the public safety. Stolen cars and hit
and runs are getting so common that they don't make the newspaper
anymore. Same as in So. Cal., from what I was told by a guy yesterday
who is here looking for work.
Conspiracy theory.
meaningless example of who knows what snipped

Oh? BZ is an expert about FL as well as SoCal. Here is a story about it:

Your "story" proves you are an idiot like Sherman.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in998201.shtml

(CBS) Run from a police officer, and his first instinct will likely be
to chase 'til the wheels fall off — even for minor crimes. But
these chases can come at dangerously great speeds, reports, CBS News
correspondent Mark Strassmann, carrying even greater risks.

Police chases kill more than 300 people a year. And one-third of them
are innocent bystanders.

... which has nothing to do with your claim about "gotten so common".
Your lastest "story" simply points out that the risk of a high speed
chase can outweigh the benefits of catching a criminal. It has nothing
to do with how "common" it is.


Busily catching up, Saturday afternoon brought is a real winner. This
happened in the next county over, where I used to live. Bicyclists like
it because it is rural and there isn't as much traffic. They feel safe
there. How'd you like to be "sharing the road" with this maniac?

FHP Investigating Pursuit That Ended In Deadly Head-On Crash
LAKE COUNTY, Fla -- The Lake County Sheriff's Office said that because
of policy a deputy did not initiate a chase when Jeremy Halfacre
wouldn't pull over for a traffic stop in Umatilla on Saturday.

Eyewitness News learned that just minutes after the deputy let the
suspect go, a U.S. Forestry Division ranger said he was on the tail of
Halfacre's green Pontiac. In his dispatch communication, the ranger said
he lost sight of Halfacre's car, but within minutes he spotted the car
again.

Moments later, Halfacre crashed head-on into another car. His
18-year-old passenger, who was also his cousin, died and Halfacre was
seriously injured. Florida Highway Patrol troopers wouldn't say how
close the ranger was to Halfacre's car or if he had his lights and
sirens on.

It wasn't the first time Halfacre has tried to run from authorities. In
December, Lake County authorities said they tried to stop Halfacre for
driving a stolen all-terrain vehicle on a public road. He was arrested
for the incident.

Eric Vey writes:

Bill Z. wrote:
Eric Vey writes:

Bill Z. wrote:
Police chases kill more than 300 people a year. And one-third of them
are innocent bystanders.

... which has nothing to do with your claim about "gotten so common".
Your lastest "story" simply points out that the risk of a high speed
chase can outweigh the benefits of catching a criminal. It has nothing
to do with how "common" it is.


LOL. I guess one almost every day isn't "common" enough for you. Since
it was the weekend and few reporters work the weekend, we have to
catch up.

We have about 40,000 people killed each year in auto accidents. Around
90 are killed each year by lightning. On the average 120 are killed
each year in airline accidents. Your 300 is not exactly "common" in
the overall scheme of things.

You need to get a sense of reality, which you sorely lack.

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Eric Vey writes:

Bill Z. wrote:
Eric Vey writes:


Police chases kill more than 300 people a year. And one-third of them
are innocent bystanders.
... which has nothing to do with your claim about "gotten so common".
Your lastest "story" simply points out that the risk of a high speed
chase can outweigh the benefits of catching a criminal. It has nothing
to do with how "common" it is.


Busily catching up, Saturday afternoon brought is a real winner. This
happened in the next county over, where I used to live. Bicyclists
like it because it is rural and there isn't as much traffic. They feel
safe there. How'd you like to be "sharing the road" with this maniac?

FHP Investigating Pursuit That Ended In Deadly Head-On Crash
LAKE COUNTY, Fla -- The Lake County Sheriff's Office said that because
of policy a deputy did not initiate a chase when Jeremy Halfacre
wouldn't pull over for a traffic stop in Umatilla on Saturday.

Yawn. If you scour the net, you can find your "man bites dog" stories.


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