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Old June 26th 08, 03:12 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,rec.bicycles.misc
John Kane
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Default Velib in Paris: Balance Sheet for First Year

On Jun 25, 4:31*pm, "James Thomson" wrote:
"John Kane" a écrit:

By the way what's with bus lanes? I had heard about the
tram but not a bus lanes fiasco.


If you mean the user comment:

* * M Delanoë avait déjà saturé les voies ed circulation normale.
* * Maintenant; grâce au Velib, c'est au tour des voies de bus d'être
* * bloquées .E effet, en plaçant massivementd es vélo dans les
* * voies de bus, ceux ci reste bloquée 3/4 du temps derrière un
* * vélo. Il ne peuvent pas le dépasser, car il faut qu'il se rabatte à
* * droite pour un arrêt. Résultat, maintenant en bus on va à la
* * vitesse d'un vélo, sans compter que ceux ci grillent les feux rouges;

* * Mais le fait de dessiner de jolis vélo dans les couloirs de bus,
* * a permsi de les comptabiliser dans les km de piste cyclables crées.

* * On fait cohabiter dans cet espace (souvent clos) des véhicules
* * et des usagers qui n'ont ni les même vitesse ni les pmême susage.
* * Un vélo va doucement mais régulièrement. Un bus accélère, décélère
* * et s'arrête fréquement pour faire monter et descendre les boyageurs.
* * Résultats ces uasagers aux comportement différents ne peuvent
* * cohabiter dans les voies du bus.

the complaint is that bicycle signs have been painted in bus lanes to
augment the stats for the creation of new cycle lanes. In Paris a bus lane
is supposedly for RATP (Paris Transport Authority) vehicles *only* unless
other vehicles (including bicycles) are explicitly allowed by signage -
though in reality taxis and bikes are tolerated. Paris bus lanes usually
have a physical barrier of curb height to divide them from the other lanes,
and they're typically not much wider than a bus. That means that buses get
stuck behind cyclists, and vice versa.

I don't have any experience of the problem from a bus passenger's point of
view - I haven't taken a bus in my six years here in Paris. As a cyclist,
aggression from bus drivers isn't uncommon.

James Thomson


No I wasn't thinking about that. It just seemed an normal complaint of
an non-cyclist ( although it could be true).
I was referring to the article where it said
"Le Vélib' a fait oublier les ratés de la politique des transports de
la première mandature. Les embouteillages, la suppression des places
de parking, les couloirs de bus, les travaux du tramway ont pourtant
alimenté la grogne des Parisiens pendant quatre ans."

I was just wondering what the main complaints were. les travaux du
tramway was pretty clear though now that it is running I have read
that usage is pretty high and a lot of people seem happy with it.

John Kane Kingston ON Canada
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Old June 26th 08, 07:28 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,rec.bicycles.misc
Andrew Price
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Default Velib in Paris: Balance Sheet for First Year

On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 08:05:58 -0700 (PDT), Robert Chung
wrote:

"Le Vélib' a fait oublier les ratés de la politique des transports de
la première mandature. Les embouteillages, la suppression des places
de parking, les couloirs de bus, les travaux du tramway ont pourtant
alimenté la grogne des Parisiens pendant quatre ans."


Seems like a pretty standard Le Figaro paragraph to me.


Me too. It's not a newspaper which sets any value on clearly
distinguishing fact from opinion.
 




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