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Campagnolo 11 speed prices
"Qui si parla Campagnolo" wrote
I think we are going to sell lots of SR and Chorus and Veloce. And 7900, and 6600 SL and not much sram. Curious why you think you're not going to sell much SRAM. I happen to be in agreement with you, but what happened? Seems like SRAM had a significant window of opportunity. Did they blow it primarily with noisy drivetrains (mostly the cassettes)? Or is there more to it than that? I've used the shifters and find them easy to adapt to, so I don't think that's the issue, and durability seems fine. --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReactionBicycles.com "Qui si parla Campagnolo" wrote in message ... On Oct 30, 2:07 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" wrote: What I wonder is what makes 7900 nearly twice the price of 7800, with the aluminum crank? $1400 vs $2600. It's not nearly that large a difference on a complete big though. How about on the 'Campy side? You'd have a better clue than I as to whether complete bikes reflect the entire differential or not. Don't buy complete bikes so I don't know. OEM is always cheaper and I've always suspected, shimano and sram make deals that equal below cost 'stuff' on some bikes, and try to make it up other places. I look at 7900, with the only real change of hidden der housing and a few bits of carbon and the price goes way up. Add a $1300 carbon crank and it's the price of SuperRecord w/o the ceramics and titanium(NOT saying that is anything but marketing, BTW). I'm thinking, perhaps incorrectly, that Shimano (and Campy) are going to discover that there are dangers pricing the the highest-end components beyond what much of the targeted market can pay. Either that or they're going to have to redefine customer expectations and explain that certain groups truly are race-only offerings, not meant for people who have to pay for their own equipment. Which, of course, might make them all the more desirable... Campagnolo has stated and again, restated they are a 'premium' component maker. They are the Porsche, Ferrari, Audi, not the Toyota or even Honda of bike stuff. GOOD for them. Just like the 'baby Benz' and 'People's Porsche' was a poor idea, Campagnolo on $900 bikes is too. I think we are going to sell lots of SR and Chorus and Veloce. And 7900, and 6600 SL and not much sram. --Mike Jacoubowsky Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA h "Qui si parla Campagnolo" wrote in ... On Oct 29, 2:21 pm, wrote: skrev: http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...61&item=50-733... A grand for a crank? Maybe, maybe rational. "Only" 489 euro hehttp://bike-components.de/catalog/An...per+Record+Ult... http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...63&item=50-733... $625 for shifters? Getting irrational. 289 Euro:http://bike-components.de/catalog/An...per+Record+11+... I looks like performancebike is charging a hefty overprice. Usually there isn't such a big discrepancy between prices in the US and EU regarding high end Campagnolo stuff. Not that I find SR inexpensive even at EU prices. I think SR is a service Campagnolo provides to wealthy people that really don't now what else to do with the heaps of cash that accumulates on their bank account. -- Regards What I wonder is what makes 7900 nearly twice the price of 7800, with the aluminum crank? $1400 vs $2600. |
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Campagnolo 11 speed prices
On Oct 30, 9:19*am, "Clive George" wrote:
wrote in message ... Things are not improving as fast in bicycle technology as one is lead to believe. *As I mentioned in another thread, freewheel ratchets, although improved are run practically dry (noisy) as a defense against failures that are more caused by absurd gearing than sticky lubrication. Oy - those low gears aren't absurd. Not everybody has legs like you. Cycling should be, and is, accessible to people who aren't as strong, for whatever reason. There is a reason for the gear madness to have emerged. In racing situations, having close gear ratios is definitely advantageous. The gears emerge to give racers an advantage. For most of us they don't make much sense. It really doesn't affect our ability to ride if we have a cluster of 13, 15, 17, 19, 21, 23 or a ten speed 13-23. There is an advantage of course for those who ride fast in groups to have the close ratio gears. In terms of climbing it makes no difference. I currently have nine gears because that's the bike that I got had. I see no reason to change to ten. At some point I may be forced to change to ten when 9s cease to exist. For mountain biking I usually ride alone and don't need to keep up with anybody, so I have a six speed cassette. Its a 14-34 I believe. The 34 gets me pretty much over anything. I don't need close ratios for anything with my mtb. |
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