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!05 Shifter Won't shift
Uh... no (and I don't think that's what you meant). We rebuild a lot of
Ergo levers, replacing the ratchet gear, which most definitely causes a "failed" shifter. But it *is* rebuildable, so you don't have to toss it. Saying they never "fail" is a bit of a stretch though. In the 15 years I have been overhauling ERGO, I have never seen a rathet wear out, need a replacement. They are very gard steel and when being pushed by the springs, never wear out. Yeah, and I meant the springs. I think ya know what I meant Mike, Fail and throw away vs fail and repair...shimano could make these repairable but that would be contrary to their philosophy of fail and replace/upgrade, which those who drink the shimano koolaide are so in favor of. I don't think it would be so easy to make the Shimano-style of STI as easily rebuildable as the Campy. There's a lot more going on inside the lever. It will be interesting to see how the SRAM stuff plays out. One can certainly hope! --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReactionBicycles.com "Qui si parla Campagnolo" wrote in message oups.com... Mike Jacoubowsky wrote: If you hold the big lever out, and then push the small does it click? Common failure mode but like the others said, make sure inner wire and housing is OK along with under BB guide. STI repair kit of flush and flush again....then replace if no soap. Campag is the way to never have failed shifters again, Uh... no (and I don't think that's what you meant). We rebuild a lot of Ergo levers, replacing the ratchet gear, which most definitely causes a "failed" shifter. But it *is* rebuildable, so you don't have to toss it. Saying they never "fail" is a bit of a stretch though. In the 15 years I have been overhauling ERGO, I have never seen a rathet wear out, need a replacement. They are very gard steel and when being pushed by the springs, never wear out. I think ya know what I meant Mike, Fail and throw away vs fail and repair...shimano could make these repairable but that would be contrary to their philosophy of fail and replace/upgrade, which those who drink the shimano koolaide are so in favor of. --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReactionBicycles.com "Qui si parla Campagnolo" wrote in message ups.com... Steven wrote: I have 9 speed Shimano 105 shifters on my road bike. Recently it has become harder to downshift,(PUSHING ON THE SMALL LEVER) to move the chain to the smaller cogs. Today it wouldn't dowshift at all. The upshift(larger lever) jusy moves along with the smaller. Is there a repair I can do? Does anyone have a 105 or Ulterga 9 speed right side ahift/brake lever for sale? Thanks If you hold the big lever out, and then push the small does it click? Common failure mode but like the others said, make sure inner wire and housing is OK' along with under BB guide. STI repair kit of flush and flush again....then replace if no soap. Campag is the way to never have failed shifters again, BTW-a 10s ERGO and RD will shift 9s shimano cogs famously. In a short time, 9s 105 shifters are gonna be hard to find since shimano is 10s for those now. |
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!05 Shifter Won't shift
On 17 Apr 2006 05:29:15 -0700, "Qui si parla Campagnolo"
wrote: I think ya know what I meant Mike, Fail and throw away vs fail and repair...shimano could make these repairable but that would be contrary to their philosophy of fail and replace/upgrade, which those who drink the shimano koolaide are so in favor of. And that's why Shimano is ten times as large as Campy -- every truly successful business is into rampant consumerism. I don't particularly like it, but it is unfortunately the current reality. Jasper |
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Jasper Janssen wrote:
And that's why Shimano is ten times as large as Campy -- every truly successful business is into rampant consumerism. I don't particularly like it, but it is unfortunately the current reality. I hate to say it Jasper, but I used to have Campa on my bikes and changed to Shimano, because when I went to the local Campa Service centre (or how do they call it), they refused to repair my shifters. They told me he "if we repair it, it will be as expensive as ordering a new set" "we have no time to do this". So I ordered the parts myself, waited weeks before they arrived (maybe the LBS wasn't too happy to order those) and rebuilt the Ergo's myself..... I understand service is better at other LBS and Campa service centres. I'll have Campa again on my next bike, though, because I like the fact to be able to repair every single part. Gr, Derk |
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!05 Shifter Won't shift
On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 19:54:08 +0200, Derk wrote:
Jasper Janssen wrote: And that's why Shimano is ten times as large as Campy -- every truly successful business is into rampant consumerism. I don't particularly like it, but it is unfortunately the current reality. I hate to say it Jasper, but I used to have Campa on my bikes and changed to Shimano, because when I went to the local Campa Service centre (or how do they call it), they refused to repair my shifters. They told me he "if we repair it, it will be as expensive as ordering a new set" "we have no time to do this". So I ordered the parts myself, waited weeks before they Yeah, that attitude pervades society. More so now even than just 10 or 20 years ago, when if your toaster broke you took a screwdriver to it and reconnected the wires... nowadays you just toss it. Well, most people do, I'm poor enough and skilled enough that I try to repair whenever possible -- money saved is money earned. Jasper |
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