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"City Bike" Hot New Category at Bicycle Industry Show
On Sep 29, 8:43 am, A Muzi wrote:
Mike Jacoubowsky wrote: are no lights supplied until you get all the way up to their top-of-the-line model, the World Adventure-http://www.schwinnbike.com/products/bikes_detail.php?id=954. Chalo wrote: They put vertical dropouts and a chain tensioner on a bike that comes *from the factory* with a gearhub?!?!! Are they on crack? (I mean, this is Pacific Cycle we're talking about, so it's probably a combination of betel nut and counterfeit Valium, but still... WTF?) Or just PCP and toluene? Sky Yaeger isn't at Bianchi any longer. Bianchi also has an internal gear bike with the wrong ends and a tensioner for 2008. Whatever for? Why, 'urban bike' with disc brake of course. O tempora, O mores. Well, the frame does give you the option to change over to a conventional derailleur arrangement if you like -- and as a manufacturer, you can use the same frame for a lot of models. It looks to me like Schwinn just took a hybrid frame and hung a bunch of trick stuff on it -- going the kludge route to use the internal geared hub. At that price point, personally, I would rather have a Pilot or a Portland. -- Jay Beattie. |
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"City Bike" Hot New Category at Bicycle Industry Show
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 04:05:00 -0700, SMS wrote:
Let's just say it's extremely rare (like never), to see one of these commute bikes out at night using only the dynamo lights. Not true here in NYC. Most here commute with no front light at all. I use a dynamo light. We don't need more. All streets have street lights. Don www.donwiss.com/joyrides (e-mail link at page bottom). |
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A Muzi wrote:
Bianchi also has an internal gear bike with the wrong ends and a tensioner for 2008. Whatever for? Why, 'urban bike' with disc brake of course. O tempora, O mores. I see, I guess. That seems like a reason to use sliding dropouts (with caliper tabs), not vertical ones. One of the best things about using a gearhub IMO is a tidy, trouble- free chainline with no chain dumping and no great-balls-o'-filth pulleys. Chalo |
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"City Bike" Hot New Category at Bicycle Industry Show
Don Wiss wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 04:05:00 -0700, SMS wrote: Let's just say it's extremely rare (like never), to see one of these commute bikes out at night using only the dynamo lights. Not true here in NYC. Most here commute with no front light at all. I use a dynamo light. We don't need more. All streets have street lights. Don www.donwiss.com/joyrides (e-mail link at page bottom). That's true, on well lit streets like in NYC you can get by with whatever keeps you legal. Around here there are quite a few Breezer's around but the commutes are such that everyone puts better lights on them. |
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On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 14:55:57 -0700, SMS wrote:
Don Wiss wrote: On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 04:05:00 -0700, SMS wrote: Let's just say it's extremely rare (like never), to see one of these commute bikes out at night using only the dynamo lights. Not true here in NYC. Most here commute with no front light at all. I use a dynamo light. We don't need more. All streets have street lights. That's true, on well lit streets like in NYC you can get by with whatever keeps you legal. Around here there are quite a few Breezer's around but the commutes are such that everyone puts better lights on them. Well, to be legal here one needs lights, but it is never enforced. So headlights are rare. Blinkie tail lights are more common, but it is far from universal. To change the subject. In Europe (at least in The Netherlands) tail lights can't blink. Is this technically also true in the US? Don www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom). |
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"Mike Jacoubowsky" writes: At least it doesn't have slidy-outy coffee cup holders. You can make fun of cup holders all you want, Thank you, I will. At least, the mechanised/motorized ones that slide out like a CD player tray. I also like to make fun of electric toothbrushes, electric backscratchers, electric card shufflers, etc. But Western Civilization really hit the skids with the advent of cable TV and handheld remote controls, so people could watch such pap as infomercials about auto-shifting bicycles. I /won't/ make fun of no-draft windows on cars, nor manual chokes. Those relics were actually practical. but people sometimes decide with $23k car to buy based on how many cupholders it has. They're nutz. We're all nutz. I'm inclined to buy the brand that has a picture of a lion or tiger or other feline on the packaging. How I sorely miss Standard Lager[*]! How I luv Tiger Sauce[tm]. How I'm now considering doing a run to the tobacconist's for a tin of Panter cigarellos, and maybe pick up a bottle of Chat Noir (both of which go quite well after a lasagna feeding frenzy.) The art of marketing is to circumvent peoples' sensibleness and appeal instead to their base instincts. The art of being a consumer is to (try to) remain sensible. Marketing/consuming is such an adversarial relationship. And there're the business folks like yourself -- clowns to the left of you, jokers to the right ... stuck in the middle of it. You have my utmost respect and my deepest condolences. Reconciling marketeering and consuming must be the most demanding art of all. The bike industry could do far worse than incorporate the means to easily carry your Starbucks or Peets coffee back home. It's called a Thermos[tm]. They've been around awhile ;-) There're probably electrified/mechanised/motorized versions now. cheers, Tom [*] That stuff makes the best redeyes. -- Nothing is safe from me. I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca |
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On Sep 29, 2:13 pm, "Gooserider" wrote:
I'm sure Frank Krygowski will chime in---but more lumens are better. Well, I don't want to disappoint you! ;-) But "more lumens are better" is a much too simplistic way of evaluating a headlight. Where you put those lumens is at least as important. I learned that after a friend bought a fairly expensive rechargeable halogen headlight set that was nowhere near as useful as my "nothing special" generator set. Others have talked of riding Paris-Brest-Paris using their SON/Lumotec sets and having the "rechargeable" brigade ride behind them, because they could see better by the SON's light. The only case in which dynamo lights would be superior, in my mind, is touring. Otherwise, a good LED rechargeable system is going to give you more light. Now, if I was touring, or going to be places without access to electricity for long stretches, then I'd run the dynamo. I agree, I wouldn't tour without a dynamo light. (I made that mistake once or twice, and won't repeat it.) But for me, the dynamo is absolutely the most practical electricity source for a transportational bike like those being discussed. Would you really put up a rechargeable headlight system in any other transportation vehicle? "Sorry, honey, we'll have to walk home from the movie. I forgot to recharge my car's headlights." - Frank Krygowski |
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On 2007-09-29, Don Wiss wrote:
To change the subject. In Europe (at least in The Netherlands) tail lights can't blink. Is this technically also true in the US? It varies from state to state. In my neck of the woods a blinking tail light is illegal, but I've never heard of it being enforced. |
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On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:22:18 -0400, Don Wiss
wrote: On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 14:55:57 -0700, SMS wrote: Don Wiss wrote: On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 04:05:00 -0700, SMS wrote: Let's just say it's extremely rare (like never), to see one of these commute bikes out at night using only the dynamo lights. Not true here in NYC. Most here commute with no front light at all. I use a dynamo light. We don't need more. All streets have street lights. That's true, on well lit streets like in NYC you can get by with whatever keeps you legal. Around here there are quite a few Breezer's around but the commutes are such that everyone puts better lights on them. Well, to be legal here one needs lights, but it is never enforced. So headlights are rare. Blinkie tail lights are more common, but it is far from universal. To change the subject. In Europe (at least in The Netherlands) tail lights can't blink. Is this technically also true in the US? Technically true in Ontario Canada, but not enforced. Even the bike-mounted cops use blinkies. Don www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom). -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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