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  #1  
Old November 9th 10, 06:38 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc
Tom Sherman °_°[_2_]
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Default Durability Of Velocity Aerohead Rims In 20/24 Hole Drillings.

On 11/9/2010 1:17 AM, Michael Press wrote:
In ,
Tom Sherman wrote:

On 11/8/2010 3:39 AM, Michael Press wrote:
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,
wrote:

Ed wrote:

I am not convinced an eyelet is goint to solve things unless you get
one that transfers the force to the inner wall of the rim - I don't
think they make those any more.

A single eyelet (grommet) serves two valuable purposes: It provides a
better bearing surface for the spoke nipple head, and it helps prevent
galling damage at the drilling from initiating cracks into the rim
extrusion.

Double eyelets (sockets) are still offered by Mavic, Rigida, and Alex
on a few models. Whether they actually transfer any load to the
internal wall of the rim depends on the specifics of the socket and
the rim extrusion and manufacturing tolerances. On modern deep and
semi-deep section rims, sockets offer the benefit of keeping nipples
from going astray within the rim channel while the wheel is being
laced.

The CR18 has eyelets. It does not have sockets
but they are overbuilt with doubled walls that
serve for sockets.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B000C15K6G/ref=dp_image_text_0?ie=UTF8&n=3375251&s=sporting-goods

The Sun CR-18 [1] is a good rim, but rather narrow at 22.5 mm.


Are they narrow enough to properly support 25 mm tires? 23 mm?
They still seem a bit fat under my 28 mm tires.

[1]http://www.sun-ringle.com/bmx/rims/cr-18/,
http://www.sun-ringle.com/product-vault/road-rims/cr18-700c-29er/.


I bought a bike that had a 28-406 Conti GP on a CR-18 rim, but soon
replaced it with a more appropriately sized (for my weight) 44-406
Mitsuboshi Tioga Comp Pool.

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Old November 10th 10, 06:47 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc
Michael Press
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Default Durability Of Velocity Aerohead Rims In 20/24 Hole Drillings.

In article ,
Tom Sherman °_° wrote:

On 11/9/2010 1:17 AM, Michael Press wrote:
In ,
Tom Sherman wrote:

On 11/8/2010 3:39 AM, Michael Press wrote:
In article
,
wrote:

Ed wrote:

I am not convinced an eyelet is goint to solve things unless you get
one that transfers the force to the inner wall of the rim - I don't
think they make those any more.

A single eyelet (grommet) serves two valuable purposes: It provides a
better bearing surface for the spoke nipple head, and it helps prevent
galling damage at the drilling from initiating cracks into the rim
extrusion.

Double eyelets (sockets) are still offered by Mavic, Rigida, and Alex
on a few models. Whether they actually transfer any load to the
internal wall of the rim depends on the specifics of the socket and
the rim extrusion and manufacturing tolerances. On modern deep and
semi-deep section rims, sockets offer the benefit of keeping nipples
from going astray within the rim channel while the wheel is being
laced.

The CR18 has eyelets. It does not have sockets
but they are overbuilt with doubled walls that
serve for sockets.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B000C15K6G/ref=dp_image_text_0?ie=UTF8&n=3375251&s=sporting-goods

The Sun CR-18 [1] is a good rim, but rather narrow at 22.5 mm.


Are they narrow enough to properly support 25 mm tires? 23 mm?
They still seem a bit fat under my 28 mm tires.

[1]http://www.sun-ringle.com/bmx/rims/cr-18/,
http://www.sun-ringle.com/product-vault/road-rims/cr18-700c-29er/.


I bought a bike that had a 28-406 Conti GP on a CR-18 rim, but soon
replaced it with a more appropriately sized (for my weight) 44-406
Mitsuboshi Tioga Comp Pool.


No answer to the question of the narrowness of the rim?

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Michael Press
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Old November 10th 10, 12:54 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc
Tom Sherman °_°[_2_]
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Default Durability Of Velocity Aerohead Rims In 20/24 Hole Drillings.

On 11/10/2010 12:47 AM, Michael Press wrote:
In ,
Tom Sherman wrote:

On 11/9/2010 1:17 AM, Michael Press wrote:
In ,
Tom Sherman wrote:

On 11/8/2010 3:39 AM, Michael Press wrote:
In article
,
wrote:

Ed wrote:

I am not convinced an eyelet is goint to solve things unless you get
one that transfers the force to the inner wall of the rim - I don't
think they make those any more.

A single eyelet (grommet) serves two valuable purposes: It provides a
better bearing surface for the spoke nipple head, and it helps prevent
galling damage at the drilling from initiating cracks into the rim
extrusion.

Double eyelets (sockets) are still offered by Mavic, Rigida, and Alex
on a few models. Whether they actually transfer any load to the
internal wall of the rim depends on the specifics of the socket and
the rim extrusion and manufacturing tolerances. On modern deep and
semi-deep section rims, sockets offer the benefit of keeping nipples
from going astray within the rim channel while the wheel is being
laced.

The CR18 has eyelets. It does not have sockets
but they are overbuilt with doubled walls that
serve for sockets.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B000C15K6G/ref=dp_image_text_0?ie=UTF8&n=3375251&s=sporting-goods

The Sun CR-18 [1] is a good rim, but rather narrow at 22.5 mm.

Are they narrow enough to properly support 25 mm tires? 23 mm?
They still seem a bit fat under my 28 mm tires.

[1]http://www.sun-ringle.com/bmx/rims/cr-18/,
http://www.sun-ringle.com/product-vault/road-rims/cr18-700c-29er/.

I bought a bike that had a 28-406 Conti GP on a CR-18 rim, but soon
replaced it with a more appropriately sized (for my weight) 44-406
Mitsuboshi Tioga Comp Pool.


No answer to the question of the narrowness of the rim?

Why would anyone want to ride on tires narrower than 28-mm?

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.
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Old November 10th 10, 01:40 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc
Peter Cole[_2_]
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Default Durability Of Velocity Aerohead Rims In 20/24 Hole Drillings.

On 11/10/2010 1:47 AM, Michael Press wrote:
In ,
Tom Sherman wrote:

On 11/9/2010 1:17 AM, Michael Press wrote:
In ,
Tom Sherman wrote:

On 11/8/2010 3:39 AM, Michael Press wrote:
In article
,
wrote:

Ed wrote:

I am not convinced an eyelet is goint to solve things unless you get
one that transfers the force to the inner wall of the rim - I don't
think they make those any more.

A single eyelet (grommet) serves two valuable purposes: It provides a
better bearing surface for the spoke nipple head, and it helps prevent
galling damage at the drilling from initiating cracks into the rim
extrusion.

Double eyelets (sockets) are still offered by Mavic, Rigida, and Alex
on a few models. Whether they actually transfer any load to the
internal wall of the rim depends on the specifics of the socket and
the rim extrusion and manufacturing tolerances. On modern deep and
semi-deep section rims, sockets offer the benefit of keeping nipples
from going astray within the rim channel while the wheel is being
laced.

The CR18 has eyelets. It does not have sockets
but they are overbuilt with doubled walls that
serve for sockets.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B000C15K6G/ref=dp_image_text_0?ie=UTF8&n=3375251&s=sporting-goods

The Sun CR-18 [1] is a good rim, but rather narrow at 22.5 mm.

Are they narrow enough to properly support 25 mm tires? 23 mm?
They still seem a bit fat under my 28 mm tires.

[1]http://www.sun-ringle.com/bmx/rims/cr-18/,
http://www.sun-ringle.com/product-vault/road-rims/cr18-700c-29er/.

I bought a bike that had a 28-406 Conti GP on a CR-18 rim, but soon
replaced it with a more appropriately sized (for my weight) 44-406
Mitsuboshi Tioga Comp Pool.


No answer to the question of the narrowness of the rim?


I run 35 mm tires on my 700c cr-18's (currently).
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Old November 10th 10, 07:04 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc
Michael Press
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Default Durability Of Velocity Aerohead Rims In 20/24 Hole Drillings.

In article ,
Tom Sherman °_° wrote:

On 11/10/2010 12:47 AM, Michael Press wrote:
In ,
Tom Sherman wrote:

On 11/9/2010 1:17 AM, Michael Press wrote:
In ,
Tom Sherman °_°twshermanREMOVE@THISsouthslope .net wrote:

On 11/8/2010 3:39 AM, Michael Press wrote:
In article
,
wrote:

Ed wrote:

I am not convinced an eyelet is goint to solve things unless you get
one that transfers the force to the inner wall of the rim - I don't
think they make those any more.

A single eyelet (grommet) serves two valuable purposes: It provides a
better bearing surface for the spoke nipple head, and it helps prevent
galling damage at the drilling from initiating cracks into the rim
extrusion.

Double eyelets (sockets) are still offered by Mavic, Rigida, and Alex
on a few models. Whether they actually transfer any load to the
internal wall of the rim depends on the specifics of the socket and
the rim extrusion and manufacturing tolerances. On modern deep and
semi-deep section rims, sockets offer the benefit of keeping nipples
from going astray within the rim channel while the wheel is being
laced.

The CR18 has eyelets. It does not have sockets
but they are overbuilt with doubled walls that
serve for sockets.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B000C15K6G/ref=dp_image_text_0?ie=UTF8&n=3375251&s=sporting-goods

The Sun CR-18 [1] is a good rim, but rather narrow at 22.5 mm.

Are they narrow enough to properly support 25 mm tires? 23 mm?
They still seem a bit fat under my 28 mm tires.

[1]http://www.sun-ringle.com/bmx/rims/cr-18/,
http://www.sun-ringle.com/product-vault/road-rims/cr18-700c-29er/.

I bought a bike that had a 28-406 Conti GP on a CR-18 rim, but soon
replaced it with a more appropriately sized (for my weight) 44-406
Mitsuboshi Tioga Comp Pool.


No answer to the question of the narrowness of the rim?

Why would anyone want to ride on tires narrower than 28-mm?


Who wouldn't want to?

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Michael Press
 




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