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Should Cyclists Pack Guns?
On 19 Apr 2007 08:34:20 -0700, donquijote1954
wrote: I guess we cyclists are too pacific for that (or just that we aren't Republicans), but in light of all that violence out there, shouldn't we rethink our strategy (everyone to himself) and get together to launch a good nonviolent campaign? I don't expect 'normal' from you, but don't you find this just a little bit tasteless considering what just happened on the Virginia Tech campus? And using 'Republicans' must be your way to compensate for not being able to actually make a complete, cogent thought on your own. I'm sure there are some reflexive 'thinkers' such as yourself that will think you made some point or another. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... |
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In article , Just A User wrote:
Upon mentioning VA Tech, I have to put in my two cents, Cho was a wack job, but personally I think the right to bear arm part of the constitution needs to be re thought. In countries, such as the U.K. where gun control laws are very strict, they don't have incidents like those at the campus on Monday. 1) They do. 2) Crime is up, as citizens cannot defend themselves. The criminals if they don't have guns just use other weapons. 3) The UK government is becoming more controling. Recent legislative activity in the UK includes having government employees busting into people's homes to take items equal in value to any fines (such as parking tickets) owed to the government. Gun bans increase crime by making working conditions safe for criminals. Allowing people to carry guns decreases crime by making working conditions unsafe for criminals. In the same part of the country there was another school shooting prior to this one, except in that case students went and got their guns from their cars and ended it at 3 dead. Relying on the police to do something hours later is folly and bans will never keep the guns out of the hands of someone bent on doing something. |
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On Apr 19, 12:03 pm, wrote:
On 19 Apr 2007 08:34:20 -0700, donquijote1954 wrote: Hey, we get screamed at, doored at, spitted upon, pushed around and even killed, isn't it time we enjoy the same benefits as other Americans? When is a cyclist going into a rage and mow down all those careless SUV drivers who make us feel worthless? Imagine this scenario: You get hit and as you roll down the pavement you draw and... I guess we cyclists are too pacific for that (or just that we aren't Republicans), but in light of all that violence out there, shouldn't we rethink our strategy (everyone to himself) and get together to launch a good nonviolent campaign? Here's a good identifying T-shirt... http://www.cafepress.com/burncalories Still Bush defends the right to bear arms Still, it's the Constitution that affirms ( not 'gives' ) that RIGHT, and he abides by the Constitution. In this particular instance, yes. "unreasonable search and seizure" not so much. nate |
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On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:51:02 -0400, Just A User
wrote: Upon mentioning VA Tech, I have to put in my two cents, Cho was a wack job, but personally I think the right to bear arm part of the constitution needs to be re thought. In countries, such as the U.K. where gun control laws are very strict, they don't have incidents like those at the campus on Monday. Well, actually they do, but not in the quantity that the U.S. has, and they seem to be somewhat less successful, even if the intent was there. There have been incidents in Germany and Scotland and several in Canada. Starting this thread - often initiated by those who like to tell everyone what they will do to this driver or another - is pretty much stupid. Doing it today is what makes it tasteless to boot. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... |
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On Apr 19, 9:34 am, donquijote1954
wrote: Hey, we get screamed at, doored at, Hopefully a door opener gets you some day, so we don't have to put up with your retarded cross-posts anymore. |
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On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:03:42 -0400,
wrote: On 19 Apr 2007 08:34:20 -0700, donquijote1954 wrote: Hey, we get screamed at, doored at, spitted upon, pushed around and even killed, isn't it time we enjoy the same benefits as other Americans? When is a cyclist going into a rage and mow down all those careless SUV drivers who make us feel worthless? Imagine this scenario: You get hit and as you roll down the pavement you draw and... I guess we cyclists are too pacific for that (or just that we aren't Republicans), but in light of all that violence out there, shouldn't we rethink our strategy (everyone to himself) and get together to launch a good nonviolent campaign? Here's a good identifying T-shirt... http://www.cafepress.com/burncalories Still Bush defends the right to bear arms Still, it's the Constitution that affirms ( not 'gives' ) that RIGHT, and he abides by the Constitution. EVEN as President George Bush told the nation he was praying for the victims, and that the killings in a place of learning would affect "every American classroom and community", a White House official said Mr Bush continued to believe in the "right to bear arms". Excellent ! He supports the Constitution and fundamental rights now matter HOW much the left-wing nutters would like to ignore those things in their never ending drive to engineer a society more to their own liking ! Bush supports the Constitution? That's news! I mean signing statements are, after all, the ultimate support of the Constitution. And, who needs the Judicial system? Why get a warrant -- just listen in. And all those people who disagree with you? Well, they're un-American commie *******s. Support a stronger executive branch! Bush doesn't need the other branches, because He knows better! -- Bob in CT |
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In article . com, N8N wrote:
On Apr 19, 12:03 pm, wrote: Still Bush defends the right to bear arms Still, it's the Constitution that affirms ( not 'gives' ) that RIGHT, and he abides by the Constitution. In this particular instance, yes. "unreasonable search and seizure" not so much. Bush Jr. is another gun grabber, fully willing to sign another assault weapons ban should it reach his desk. The BATF under shrub has been greatly expanded and has been rather busy using existing law to stomp on people. One case in particular was a manufacturer of raw castings that people could then make into finished firearms... provided they had access to a milling machine... this was entirely legal, but the company's owner was still stomped on. |
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On Apr 19, 12:52 pm, (Brent P)
wrote: 1) They do. 2) Crime is up, as citizens cannot defend themselves. The criminals if they don't have guns just use other weapons. 3) The UK government is becoming more controling. Recent legislative activity in the UK includes having government employees busting into people's homes to take items equal in value to any fines (such as parking tickets) owed to the government. I rather appreciate a comment often attributed to Benjamin Franklin: "He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security" |
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In article , BiffB wrote:
The U.K. also has surviellance cameras every 15 feet. Would you be willing to live in an Orwellian world for a false sense of security? Cameras that mysterously malfunction when the government is running an op of some sort or the cops did something wrong. |
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"donquijote1954" wrote in message ups.com... Hey, we get screamed at, doored at, spitted upon, pushed around and even killed, isn't it time we enjoy the same benefits as other Americans? What, like learning to ****ing write? When is a cyclist going into a rage and mow down all those careless SUV drivers who make us feel worthless? I don't know, when IS a cyclist going into a rage? Imagine this scenario: You get hit and as you roll down the pavement you draw and... I guess we cyclists are too pacific for that You're swimming in deep waters there buddy. (or just that we aren't Republicans), but in light of all that violence out there, shouldn't we rethink our strategy (everyone to himself) and get together to launch a good nonviolent campaign? Yeah, just shoot every **** you see, to be on the safe side. -- Beav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 |
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