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Bike lanes in MA, dangerous bike lanes and a possible news story
Recently I engaged in a conversation over at ne.transport regarding
some inadequate bike lanes in the Newburyport, MA area. Shortly after posting my reply, I got an email from a Boston area reporter. I don't want to copy-paste the exact email in the interest of privacy, but the gist was basically that she read my post and she's "heard other cyclists complain of useless/dangerous bike lanes". She wanted to know if there were any others that stand out as particularly dangerous, stating that it may make a good news story for them if so. This seems like a good chance to try to get some public awareness, so I figured I'd bounce the concept off of some other cyclists before replying to her. Link to the thread: http://tinyurl.com/2bw4od Non-tiny link: http://groups.google.com/group/ne.tr...37a72c21e4603e |
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Bike lanes in MA, dangerous bike lanes and a possible news story
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Recently I engaged in a conversation over at ne.transport regarding some inadequate bike lanes in the Newburyport, MA area. Shortly after posting my reply, I got an email from a Boston area reporter. I don't want to copy-paste the exact email in the interest of privacy, but the gist was basically that she read my post and she's "heard other cyclists complain of useless/dangerous bike lanes". She wanted to know if there were any others that stand out as particularly dangerous, stating that it may make a good news story for them if so. This seems like a good chance to try to get some public awareness, so I figured I'd bounce the concept off of some other cyclists before replying to her. We've had a few dangerous lanes, but these were installed many years before the current design standards were developed. The main issue was a lane that was too narrow to safely pass a parked car - an opening door could completely block the lane. One lane was installed about 10 years ago by mistake (someone messed up the design) - it put the lane stripe too close to the gutter pan, and as the pavement deteriorates over time, you end up with a crack parallel to the direction of travel, so you need enough clearance from that so that a cyclist can ride in the lane while not getting too close to the gutter pan. That lane was removed and is now back after some major road improvements that eliminated the problem. A few people complained about the bike lane being removed, but removing it was the only reasonable decision, given the liability risk of having a substandard design. -- My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB |
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Bike lanes in MA, dangerous bike lanes and a possible news story
wrote in message ups.com... Recently I engaged in a conversation over at ne.transport regarding some inadequate bike lanes in the Newburyport, MA area. Shortly after posting my reply, I got an email from a Boston area reporter. I don't want to copy-paste the exact email in the interest of privacy, but the gist was basically that she read my post and she's "heard other cyclists complain of useless/dangerous bike lanes". She wanted to know if there were any others that stand out as particularly dangerous, stating that it may make a good news story for them if so. This seems like a good chance to try to get some public awareness, so I figured I'd bounce the concept off of some other cyclists before replying to her. Link to the thread: http://tinyurl.com/2bw4od The Globe recently did a very strange story recently about a popular multi-use path in Eastern Mass, the Minuteman. The headline was about "bike path rage," though the story only cited one actual "rage" incident that was two years old. Then lots of quotes about how crowded the path is and how cyclists and joggers and skaters and eveybody have to get along--not the same thing, but put in a context that suggested the people quioting were "responding" to the rage "problem." The story was the top story of the Sunday paper a few months ago. I'm not sure what that was about, but I hope this reporter does a better job on bike lanes, which can kill people if done badly. There are some very bad ones in Cambridge. |
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On Aug 15, 10:47 am, "OughtFour" wrote:
I'm not sure what that was about, but I hope this reporter does a better job on bike lanes, which can kill people if done badly. There are some very bad ones in Cambridge. 'Can kill people?' I'm no fan of bike lanes, but to call the poorly designed ones deadly is pretty damn silly. Got any examples of bike lanes killing people? Robert |
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On Aug 15, 9:50 am, " wrote:
Recently I engaged in a conversation over at ne.transport regarding some inadequate bike lanes in the Newburyport, MA area. Shortly after posting my reply, I got an email from a Boston area reporter. I don't want to copy-paste the exact email in the interest of privacy, but the gist was basically that she read my post and she's "heard other cyclists complain of useless/dangerous bike lanes". She wanted to know if there were any others that stand out as particularly dangerous, stating that it may make a good news story for them if so. This seems like a good chance to try to get some public awareness, so I figured I'd bounce the concept off of some other cyclists before replying to her. Link to the thread: http://tinyurl.com/2bw4od Non-tiny link:http://groups.google.com/group/ne.tr..._thread/thread... Dear Dan, You can scroll back through monthly pictures with captions of exquisite British bicycle road and path mis-design he http://www.warringtoncyclecampaign.c...August2007.htm Cheers, Carl Fogel |
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Bike lanes in MA, dangerous bike lanes and a possible news story
In rec.bicycles.misc wrote:
On Aug 15, 10:47 am, "OughtFour" wrote: I'm not sure what that was about, but I hope this reporter does a better job on bike lanes, which can kill people if done badly. There are some very bad ones in Cambridge. 'Can kill people?' I'm no fan of bike lanes, but to call the poorly designed ones deadly is pretty damn silly. Got any examples of bike lanes killing people? http://www.bikexprt.com/massfacil/ca...one/laird1.htm Classic bike lane as car-door lane fatality. -- Dane Buson - If I had only known, I would have been a locksmith. -- Albert Einstein |
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On Aug 15, 9:50 am, " wrote:
Recently I engaged in a conversation over at ne.transport regarding some inadequate bike lanes in the Newburyport, MA area. Shortly after posting my reply, I got an email from a Boston area reporter. I don't want to copy-paste the exact email in the interest of privacy, but the gist was basically that she read my post and she's "heard other cyclists complain of useless/dangerous bike lanes". She wanted to know if there were any others that stand out as particularly dangerous, stating that it may make a good news story for them if so. This seems like a good chance to try to get some public awareness, so I figured I'd bounce the concept off of some other cyclists before replying to her. Link to the thread: http://tinyurl.com/2bw4od Non-tiny link:http://groups.google.com/group/ne.tr..._thread/thread... wrote: You can scroll back through monthly pictures with captions of exquisite British bicycle road and path mis-design he http://www.warringtoncyclecampaign.c...August2007.htm That's precious! Hadn't noticed the archive on my earlier visit. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On 15 Aug 2007 09:20:11 -0700, (Bill Z.)
wrote: One lane was installed about 10 years ago by mistake (someone messed up the design) - it put the lane stripe too close to the gutter pan, and as the pavement deteriorates over time, you end up with a crack parallel to the direction of travel, so you need enough clearance from that so that a cyclist can ride in the lane while not getting too close to the gutter pan. What is a gutter pan? -- JT **************************** Remove "remove" to reply Visit http://www.jt10000.com **************************** |
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:35:54 -0400, John Forrest Tomlinson
wrote: On 15 Aug 2007 09:20:11 -0700, (Bill Z.) wrote: One lane was installed about 10 years ago by mistake (someone messed up the design) - it put the lane stripe too close to the gutter pan, and as the pavement deteriorates over time, you end up with a crack parallel to the direction of travel, so you need enough clearance from that so that a cyclist can ride in the lane while not getting too close to the gutter pan. What is a gutter pan? Dear John, http://motorman.org/wp-content/gutterpan_02.jpg Cheers, Carl Fogel |
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On Aug 15, 12:26 pm, Dane Buson wrote:
http://www.bikexprt.com/massfacil/ca...one/laird1.htm Classic bike lane as car-door lane fatality. "Classic?" Really? Are you suggesting that people don't ride in the door zone on streets with no bike lanes? |
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