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Kinetics Cycle Shop - SON Hub
I've seen Kinetics recommended for SON hubs. Looking at their website, there
is a cost of £45 to build into a wheel - I assume Kinetics will sell rims and spokes as well? I can't seem to find anything on the website (I know, I know - I will call tomorrow, but, of course, I want to know now!) Separately, E6S and E6Z laps are often recommened - anybody going to say don't be silly? (for unlit country roads). I guess I need mounting brackets separately as well... Graham |
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Kinetics Cycle Shop - SON Hub
Slark wrote:
I've seen Kinetics recommended for SON hubs. Looking at their website, there is a cost of £45 to build into a wheel - I assume Kinetics will sell rims and spokes as well? I can't seem to find anything on the website (I know, I know - I will call tomorrow, but, of course, I want to know now!) I can't really help there, but I got my SON-hubbed hand-built wheel from SJS - might be worth looking at them just to compare prices (as long as you are not one of those people that is ideologically opposed to SJS). Separately, E6S and E6Z laps are often recommened - anybody going to say don't be silly? (for unlit country roads). I guess I need mounting brackets separately as well... I use a Lumotec Oval, which is /adequate/ for unlit country lanes, but having seen the amount of light given off by other riders using E6/E6Z combos, I would say they are well worth the cost if you can afford them. Also worth looking at the Solidlights 1203D, which my some-time riding companion on the Invicta 400 had on his bike - so I can vouch for the superb illumination it gives (it swamped my lighting, which was problematic because his bracket had broken so the light was hanging on loosely by a cable tie and riding alongside him was like being at a school disco...) d. |
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Slark wrote on 22/10/2006 21:48 +0100:
I've seen Kinetics recommended for SON hubs. Looking at their website, there is a cost of £45 to build into a wheel - I assume Kinetics will sell rims and spokes as well? I can't seem to find anything on the website (I know, I know - I will call tomorrow, but, of course, I want to know now!) Separately, E6S and E6Z laps are often recommened - anybody going to say don't be silly? (for unlit country roads). I guess I need mounting brackets separately as well... If you do go to Kinetics make sure you agree a delivery date and are able to cancel your order if its not delivered by then. Their concept of time and responding to "well where is it?" questions appears not to be good. I know of one person who has been waiting since July for a relatively minor bit of work on a bike. -- Tony "Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using his intelligence; he is just using his memory." - Leonardo da Vinci |
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Tony Raven wrote:
If you do go to Kinetics make sure you agree a delivery date and are able to cancel your order if its not delivered by then. Their concept of time and responding to "well where is it?" questions appears not to be good. I know of one person who has been waiting since July for a relatively minor bit of work on a bike. I would second that advice. I personally won't purchase from Kinetics again given my own experiences. |
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Kinetics Cycle Shop - SON Hub
"LSMike" wrote in message ups.com... Tony Raven wrote: If you do go to Kinetics make sure you agree a delivery date and are able to cancel your order if its not delivered by then. Their concept of time and responding to "well where is it?" questions appears not to be good. I know of one person who has been waiting since July for a relatively minor bit of work on a bike. I would second that advice. I personally won't purchase from Kinetics again given my own experiences. Interesting. Thank you for the advice. Graham |
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Tony Raven wrote:
Slark wrote on 22/10/2006 21:48 +0100: I've seen Kinetics recommended for SON hubs. Looking at their website, there is a cost of £45 to build into a wheel - I assume Kinetics will sell rims and spokes as well? I can't seem to find anything on the website (I know, I know - I will call tomorrow, but, of course, I want to know now!) I think that's the additional cost for the materials and labour together, though do check first (Ben built me the front wheel of my Brom plus SON and I certainly don't recall thinking the extra for the build was at all steep). Also, you may wish to change the spec of the rims/spokes. Kinetics make sure you agree a delivery date and are able to cancel your order if its not delivered by then. Their concept of time and responding to "well where is it?" questions appears not to be good. This is a fair comment. While Kinetics is my primary source of Things Bike and I will happily spend there again, Ben tends to have rather too many projects on the go at a time to be a truly reliable source of mail order all of the time, and the last couple of things have needed 'phone reminders (they got here though, and when he says he has them he really /does/ have them, rather than saying he has them and then ordering them up like some places seem to do). While he has employed an extra in the past, I don't know if Rosie is still there and it is primarily the Ben Cooper Bike Shop rather than a big place with separate folk doing the post office bit. Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |
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Kinetics Cycle Shop - SON Hub
"Slark" wrote in message
... I've seen Kinetics recommended for SON hubs. Looking at their website, there is a cost of £45 to build into a wheel - I assume Kinetics will sell rims and spokes as well? I can't seem to find anything on the website (I know, I know - I will call tomorrow, but, of course, I want to know now!) Separately, E6S and E6Z laps are often recommened - anybody going to say don't be silly? (for unlit country roads). I guess I need mounting brackets separately as well... Graham I.'ve just bought an IXON front LED lamp from Kinetics ( which is, according to the web site, a one man "band" -- which I didn't know when I placed the order) It was ordered on 24 September and delivered on Saturday 20 October. And not a single reply to emails asking for reason for delay. I shall not use him again. But the lamp is very good even though I had to pawn my bike to afford to buy it! -- Trevor A Panther In South Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom. www.tapan.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk |
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Kinetics Cycle Shop - SON Hub
I'm also thinking of buying a new SON-hubbed wheel. SJS seem to be the only
people out there with a published price for an off-the-shelf wheel, but don't sell the E6S & E6Z, in fact Kinetics is the only place I can find them. Is there anywhere else that sells these? Also, any thoughts on 32h Vs 36h? I'm tempted towards 36 for a bit of extra strength, but maybe this is overkill... One final point, do the SON lights come with the necessary brackets and cables? Thanks, AC |
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Andy Cox wrote:
Also, any thoughts on 32h Vs 36h? I'm tempted towards 36 for a bit of extra strength, but maybe this is overkill... It'll only weigh you down at extra 4 spokes... but unless it's a heavy duty application (i.e., tandem) then it's probably more than you need. One final point, do the SON lights come with the necessary brackets and cables? Don't know, but as a data point if you change your mind the BuM ones do. Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |
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Kinetics Cycle Shop - SON Hub
Andy Cox wrote:
I'm also thinking of buying a new SON-hubbed wheel. SJS seem to be the only people out there with a published price for an off-the-shelf wheel, but don't sell the E6S & E6Z, in fact Kinetics is the only place I can find them. Is there anywhere else that sells these? I got mine through http://www.bikeplus.co.uk Select Wheels on the left hand side, then "Wheels: Schmidt" in the drop down "Select a type" box. (I have no connection with bikeplus, just a happy customer). Fantastic service. Upgraded the rim for free as they didn't have the one I ordered in stock. Delivered within 5 days. Great wheel build (but it's only done 400km so far, I'll judge it properly after another 4600km). Just over 200 quid for a SON in an Ambrosio Excellight wheel with a Lumotech Oval Plus lamp, all appropriate brackets and cables. Not bad for SON, lamp, quality rim, spokes, quality wheel build and sundries. You can choose 32 or 36 spokes, a 2.4W or 3W bulb, and even upgrade the lamp to another if you so wish. Also, any thoughts on 32h Vs 36h? I'm tempted towards 36 for a bit of extra strength, but maybe this is overkill... Depends. I was worried about my lardy self buckling wheels and was told that 32 holes was fine for me (85kg). One final point, do the SON lights come with the necessary brackets and cables? The cable should come with the light, not the SON, same for the brackets but make sure you're getting one. The cable is part of the Lumotech Oval Plus itself and it came with brackets for both caliper and canti brakes. Very happy with it, no noticable drag whatsoever (light on or off) and very happy for the vast pools of light for the last couple of hours of the Golden Tints Audax where I was in complete darkness in deepest darkest Essex. -Alex |
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