A great morning ride!

Ken wrote:
"bbaka" wrote in message

I go for self sustained all day rides in the
range of a Century and need the back pack for food, tools, and other
gear so no Camelback. When I said I ride in the country outback I meant
it, I can't just pop into a 7-11 and get a refill or any food, and I am
often well out of cell phone range.
I have to be prepared.
Bill Baka

Where do you ride? Mars?
Ken

He rides in Bakaland. It's in a whole different universe, where space
and time are warped.

Rich

bbaka wrote:

What road? I only use pavement to get to the good stuff. One stretch I
use will just about knock the fillings out of your teeth and has ruined
the spring on my Huffy's kickstand.
There is a reason I ride a mountain bike up to 100 miles in a day and it
isn't to claim a century in the city on nice paved roads.

Only in Bakaland.

Rich

(Tom Keats) wrote in
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I'd rather drink from puddles than carry a sippy sack.

I think the main benefit and original raison d'etre of
Camelbaks is, the drinking end doesn't get all kinds of
muck on it like water bottles can when riding off-road.

Neither do puddles

Ken wrote:
"bbaka" wrote in message
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Ken wrote:

"Rich" wrote in message
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Ken wrote:


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Peter Cole wrote:



Ken wrote:




"Peter Cole" wrote in message
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For long rides put water bottle cages everywhere they will fit and

fill

them with V-8, Gatorade, Orange juice, or whatever you prefer but do
have water with you. My bike has four now, two in the normal places

and

one on each front fork, held by auto heater hose clamps. It may look
strange but that gives me 96 Oz. of fluid without a heavy camelback or
backpack. I am thinking of adding two more on the rear support rails

for

144 Oz. total, and keeping dry food in the backpack. Ex Boy scout,
sometimes overly prepared.

Bill Baka


LOL yeah thats it! I mean about the old heater hose clamp trick! My old
frame doesn't have *ANY* braze on's which is why I don't have a cage

and

bottle yet. I was thinking the hose clamps would work just fine, and I

was


thinking of putting a piece of old inner tube between the cage and the

frame


for a little extra grip.

Ken

Camelbacks work fairly well and are easy to get to while riding.


Yeah I have seen the Camelbacks, I haven't had the chance to try one

myself

but they look like they would be pretty good for touring.
Ken


So far now we have a vote for the clamps, which work well and don't hurt
the bike, and Camelbacks. I go for self sustained all day rides in the
range of a Century and need the back pack for food, tools, and other
gear so no Camelback. When I said I ride in the country outback I meant
it, I can't just pop into a 7-11 and get a refill or any food, and I am
often well out of cell phone range.
I have to be prepared.
Bill Baka

Where do you ride? Mars?
Ken

There are places to the east of Beale AFB, Ca., that are devoid of
anything due to the influence of the base, secrecy, etc. Other than that
there are lots of undeveloped places in the foothills of the mountains
that have roads (wagon trails) left over from the gold rush days. It
makes for good exploring and possibly being where nobody has been for a
hundred years. Some of the 'towns' I ride through are no more than 3
families with trailers and a pinpoint on the map.
Like I said I don't ride in the city, and my wagon trail/deer trail
riding would really mess with any bragging rights on average speed.
Bill Baka

Oh yeah, You know that guy on television who is always saying "Can you
hear me now?". He can't.

Ken wrote:
"bbaka" wrote in message
...

Rich wrote:
There is a reason I ride a mountain bike up to 100 miles in a day and it
isn't to claim a century in the city on nice paved roads. You would
never know if you haven't done it.
Bill Baka

Oh come on now 100 miles *off road*? Did your daddy wear blue tights with a
big red cape and a huge *S* on his chest?
Ken

No, but he was a hard assed army sergeant in WWII. I didn't say the
whole 100 miles was off road, but it takes about 20 miles of pavement
each way so that is 40 of it. Then there is about 15 miles each way of
really crappy gravel road with washboard ruts that adds up to another 30
miles of the ride. I manage to find about 5 to 10 miles of decent
ridable trails or foot paths, maybe 10 that would be semi technical, and
the rest is either ride/carry/ride/carry (deer trails) or just leave the
bike and walk. If I really want to push my luck I will lose the back
pack and do some 45 to 70 degree rock climbing. I stop when it gets too
vertical so I do have a small degree of sanity in there somewhere.

That is why I have the MTBs. I sometimes go out for over 12 hours in the
summer and have some very interesting days. With the bike I can get
places even a jeep can't get to.

Bill (explorer) Baka

Rich wrote:
bbaka wrote:

What road? I only use pavement to get to the good stuff. One stretch I
use will just about knock the fillings out of your teeth and has
ruined the spring on my Huffy's kickstand. There is a reason I ride a
mountain bike up to 100 miles in a day and it isn't to claim a century
in the city on nice paved roads.


Only in Bakaland.

Rich

Just because you are a city sissy doesn't mean there aren't some of us
that will go out on our own.
Look on the map of California in the northern part and then look to the
east of Beale AFB. Big blank spot on the map, and that's where I spend a
lot of time. You could probably even get lost with a GPS, city boy.
Bill Baka

I really do this ****, and it really is on cheap bikes, Huffy and Mongoose.

"Rich" wrote in message
...
bbaka wrote:

I go for self sustained all day rides in the
range of a Century

Translation "I go for 5 mile rides"

Rich

Well Cali is not really a place I think you could ride for 100 miles with
seeing someone. And not being able to get a cell phone signal? I think CA
probably has one of the best cell coverage areas in the country. I think
that is where the cell phone was invented!
Ken

"bbaka" wrote in message
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Ken wrote:
"bbaka" wrote in message
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Ken wrote:

"Rich" wrote in message
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Ken wrote:


"bbaka" wrote in message
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Peter Cole wrote:



Ken wrote:




"Peter Cole" wrote in message
news:1113678509.452400.153700@l41g2000cwc. googlegroups.com...

For long rides put water bottle cages everywhere they will fit and

fill

them with V-8, Gatorade, Orange juice, or whatever you prefer but do
have water with you. My bike has four now, two in the normal places

and

one on each front fork, held by auto heater hose clamps. It may look
strange but that gives me 96 Oz. of fluid without a heavy camelback
or
backpack. I am thinking of adding two more on the rear support rails

for

144 Oz. total, and keeping dry food in the backpack. Ex Boy scout,
sometimes overly prepared.

Bill Baka


LOL yeah thats it! I mean about the old heater hose clamp trick! My
old
frame doesn't have *ANY* braze on's which is why I don't have a cage

and

bottle yet. I was thinking the hose clamps would work just fine, and
I

was


thinking of putting a piece of old inner tube between the cage and
the

frame


for a little extra grip.

Ken

Camelbacks work fairly well and are easy to get to while riding.


Yeah I have seen the Camelbacks, I haven't had the chance to try one

myself

but they look like they would be pretty good for touring.
Ken


So far now we have a vote for the clamps, which work well and don't hurt
the bike, and Camelbacks. I go for self sustained all day rides in the
range of a Century and need the back pack for food, tools, and other
gear so no Camelback. When I said I ride in the country outback I meant
it, I can't just pop into a 7-11 and get a refill or any food, and I am
often well out of cell phone range.
I have to be prepared.
Bill Baka

Where do you ride? Mars?
Ken

There are places to the east of Beale AFB, Ca., that are devoid of
anything due to the influence of the base, secrecy, etc. Other than that
there are lots of undeveloped places in the foothills of the mountains
that have roads (wagon trails) left over from the gold rush days. It

Left over from the gold rush days? They may at one time been a small part of
something that was used in that time period, but hardly leftover.

makes for good exploring and possibly being where nobody has been for a
hundred years. Some of the 'towns' I ride through are no more than 3

Now that is a real stretch! No one has been in a hundred years. This is
earth not the moon!

families with trailers and a pinpoint on the map.
Like I said I don't ride in the city, and my wagon trail/deer trail
riding would really mess with any bragging rights on average speed.
Bill Baka

Oh yeah, You know that guy on television who is always saying "Can you
hear me now?". He can't.

On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:27:18 -0400, "Ken"
wrote:


"Rich" wrote in message
...
bbaka wrote:

I go for self sustained all day rides in the
range of a Century

Translation "I go for 5 mile rides"

Rich

Well Cali is not really a place I think you could ride for 100 miles with
seeing someone. And not being able to get a cell phone signal? I think CA
probably has one of the best cell coverage areas in the country. I think
that is where the cell phone was invented!
Ken

But don't forget, this the area known as Bakaland, it is a little
south of reality.



Life is Good!
Jeff

"Ken" wrote in message
...

Well Cali is not really a place I think you could ride for 100 miles with
seeing someone.

I've never been to Columbia...

And not being able to get a cell phone signal? I think CA
probably has one of the best cell coverage areas in the country. I think
that is where the cell phone was invented!

Now if you are talking about California, well, I'm thinking if this is the
best the rest of the country is in big trouble. I live in Silicon Valley,
and in the toni town on the SF Peninsula the folks aren't fond of cell
towers near their homes. Stop your bike at Larry Ellison's guard gate for
instance, and take a gander at the number of bars you have. One of the
advantage of the country club I belong to is there is no cell coverage. No
business done on the golf course unless the person is there putting with
you. No interuptions during serves on the tennis court. It's very
refreshing. Drive highway 5 from SF to LA and you'll find lots of no
coverage spots.

That said, I hear Cali, Columbia does have wonderful cell coverage.