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Split Saddles
Due to a continuing chaffing related problem on the right thigh I am
considering switching from a horn type saddle to a split saddle. I have found 3 of the split type - Hobson, Spiderflex, and BiSaddle. Does any one have any recommendations? ... experience? ... other brands? ... with the split type they could share. |
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aandr who? writes:
Due to a continuing chaffing related problem on the right thigh I am considering switching from a horn type saddle to a split saddle. I have found 3 of the split type - Hobson, Spiderflex, and BiSaddle. Does any one have any recommendations? ... experience? ... other brands? ... with the split type they could share. I don't have any experience with these saddles but have heard from folks who used them. I think you should consider the mechanics of sitting on a bicycle saddle before trying this. I'm not sure where the sore point is, but I assume it is on the pressure point between pelvis and saddle, there where most bicyclists sit. If you describe where this is or what the symptom is, it would be easier to make suggestions. If you look at the picture at: http://www.bycycleinc.com/pages/male.html http://hobsonseats.com/products.htm Note that the two protuberances on the pelvis are what bicyclists sit on. There is no motion between them, being part of the same bone. These saddles imply "sit bones" tilt fore and aft with the legs. Superficially, watching a bicyclist ride, one might get the impression that the contacts rock fore and aft with motion of the legs... they do not. I'm not sure you are suffering from chafing or just sore tissue between epidermis and pelvis. These effects go away for most people as they achieve fitness by toughening the tissue and developing calloused skin at the contact areas. By all means, don't buy one of these without a test ride. The bicycle saddle is shaped as it is from more than 100 years of trial and error. The recent reversion to the "fart slot" or "ball pocket", patented 100 years ago is an unfortunate throwback that discredits evolutionary design. It is marketing as are the split saddles that have been hovering around the bicycle market for at least as long. Jobst Brandt |
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I'm not sure you are suffering from chafing or just sore tissue between epidermis and pelvis. These effects go away for most people as they achieve fitness by toughening the tissue and developing calloused skin at the contact areas. Jobst, do people really get callouses on their gluteus muscle, behind, backside or ischial protuberances? I don't ride that much compared to you advanced guys, but it just seems hard to understand how someone riding with chamois and a bit of Vaseline or chamois cream is going to be able to get a callous in that spot. You might not call it callous but the skin gets tough and can be felt when running the hand over it. It is also visible as darker skin in those areas. I don't know anyone who rides on Vaseline, or for that matter on leather chamois. I can't see putting grease in a fuzzy synthetic chamois. Jobst Brandt |
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The sore spot is on the right thigh that rubs against the side of the
horn and has created - not a callous - but a fatty growth that will cause more/different problems if surgically removed - that's medical advice not my intuition. To continue with the horn saddle will simply increase the size of the fatty growth. Long term it is either go to a recumbant or try one of the split saddles. |
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aandr who? writes:
The sore spot is on the right thigh that rubs against the side of the horn and has created - not a callous - but a fatty growth that will cause more/different problems if surgically removed - that's medical advice not my intuition. To continue with the horn saddle will simply increase the size of the fatty growth. Long term it is either go to a recumbent or try one of the split saddles. That's a different problem than what I had visualized. Normally, a well proportioned person does not contact that part of the saddle in most bicycling and not at all in level terrain riding. I still think you might be better off with a short nosed saddle, of which I have seen some but don't recall any names. Jobst Brandt |
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On 24 Aug 2005 12:39:03 -0700, "aandr" wrote:
Due to a continuing chaffing related problem on the right thigh I am considering switching from a horn type saddle to a split saddle. I have found 3 of the split type - Hobson, Spiderflex, and BiSaddle. Does any one have any recommendations? ... experience? ... other brands? ... with the split type they could share. So basically a noseless saddle. You might find it instructive to read through one of the 'saddle design' threads on rec.bicycles.tech, though I understand you have a special problem. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...3450f425415d26 or http://tinyurl.com/cfoe9 It's less of a condemnation and more of an analysis of the function of the nose and action of the pelvis on the saddle, etc. Fascinating. jj |
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"aandr" wrote in message oups.com... The sore spot is on the right thigh that rubs against the side of the horn and has created - not a callous - but a fatty growth that will cause more/different problems if surgically removed - that's medical advice not my intuition. To continue with the horn saddle will simply increase the size of the fatty growth. Long term it is either go to a recumbant or try one of the split saddles. Seems like those saddles would be too wide, and chafing would be increased. I like hard, narrow saddles for two reasons. Being hard means that just my sitz bones are in contact with the saddle. They don't sink down leaving the softer parts to experience pressure. Being narrow means that my inner thighs don't rub against the sides of the saddle. It seems like this is the issue you're describing. Maybe you should try something like the Sella Italia SLR. By looks it seems counter-intuitive that it would be comfortable but I find it the most comfortable of all my saddles. http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...6&srccode=2047 |
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On 24 Aug 2005 13:29:01 -0700, "aandr" wrote:
The sore spot is on the right thigh that rubs against the side of the horn and has created - not a callous - but a fatty growth that will cause more/different problems if surgically removed - that's medical advice not my intuition. To continue with the horn saddle will simply increase the size of the fatty growth. Long term it is either go to a recumbant or try one of the split saddles. Hi, as others have mentioned, maybe a narrower saddle, or wider??? Have you tried changing the angle of the saddle? I was having a problem, a couple of years ago, and I temporarily cocked it a few degrees to one side. It did help. It might be worth trying. Life is Good! Jeff |
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"jj" wrote in message
... On 24 Aug 2005 12:39:03 -0700, "aandr" wrote: Due to a continuing chaffing related problem on the right thigh I am considering switching from a horn type saddle to a split saddle. I have found 3 of the split type - Hobson, Spiderflex, and BiSaddle. Does any one have any recommendations? ... experience? ... other brands? ... with the split type they could share. So basically a noseless saddle. Apparently so. I thought the OP meant a split saddle, like this: http://www.cyclingequipment.com/perf..._ti_saddle.jpg JJ's right, you don't want one of these saddles, you want a bike and a saddle that fits properly, instead. -- Warm Regards, Claire Petersky Personal page: http://www.geocities.com/cpetersky/ See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky |
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