One of the oldest Bike shops in Ontario closes

On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 08:38:46 -0500, Duane
wrote:

On 2/26/2014 7:24 AM, wrote:
When labor rates are $85

per hour, and all parts are sold at retail, repair costs add up quickly.

........................

where are LBS rates $85/hr ?



No idea. They're usually around 60 CDN here.

What are salaries like at the LBS?

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Cheers,

John B.

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 5:38:46 AM UTC-8, Duane wrote:
On 2/26/2014 7:24 AM, wrote:

When labor rates are $85



per hour, and all parts are sold at retail, repair costs add up quickly.



........................



where are LBS rates $85/hr ?







No idea. They're usually around 60 CDN here.

Around here, service is generally price-out on a per task basis, although River City does have what appears to be a $60 hour shop rate.

http://www.bikegallery.com/about/service-pg68.htm
http://rivercitybicycles.com/wp-cont...eet-6-6-13.pdf

Based on these charges, I have save over a billion dollars in the last 40 years.

I think the last time I paid a shop for anything was 1975, although shops have done work on bikes that I purchased. I got a CK headset installed on a warranty replacement Cannondale frame free of charge (well done at River City), and they installed a Praxis Works BB30 conversion unit when I got another warranty replacement Cannondale frame. (I later removed that unit and pressed in BB30 bearings and some Wheels Mgf shims). There is stuff I don't have the tools to do (like frame prep), but I haven't had to prep a frame in decades. Most things can be done with a pocket tool. I couldn't imagine paying someone to wash my bike.



-- Jay Beattie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-7XWhyvIpE

John B. wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 08:38:46 -0500, Duane
wrote:

On 2/26/2014 7:24 AM, wrote:
When labor rates are $85

per hour, and all parts are sold at retail, repair costs add up quickly.

........................

where are LBS rates $85/hr ?



No idea. They're usually around 60 CDN here.

What are salaries like at the LBS?

No idea. They don't seem to have problems finding decent mechs though.

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duane

John B. wrote:
:On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 08:38:46 -0500, Duane
:wrote:

:On 2/26/2014 7:24 AM, wrote:
: When labor rates are $85
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: per hour, and all parts are sold at retail, repair costs add up quickly.
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: ........................
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: where are LBS rates $85/hr ?
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:No idea. They're usually around 60 CDN here.

:What are salaries like at the LBS?

About ten years ago, I was running an auto garage. I hired the local
bike shop's best mechanic, as late afternoon grunt. Clean the shop
floors, fix flats, sell a tire or battery now and again, maybe change a fe
taillitghts, that kind of stuff. We paid him quite a bit more than
the shop did. Their rate was $75/hr. Ours was $67.

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sig 97

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:20:27 PM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote:


There is stuff I don't have the tools to do (like frame prep), but I haven't had to prep a frame in decades. Most things can be done with a pocket tool. I couldn't imagine paying someone to wash my bike.

I've got a long-time friend, a brilliant ME who used to teach part time in my
program, who once had a hobby of framebuilding, doing beautiful, beautiful work.

He's moved on to other hobbies, but still has the frame prep tools. Several
times, I've biked the 1.5 miles to his house to borrow exotic tools. I've
told him several times, "Please don't throw these away. I'll buy them
whenever you want to sell them."

Sometimes is really is who you know.

- Frank Krygowski

On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 02:31:10 +0000 (UTC), Duane
wrote:

John B. wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 08:38:46 -0500, Duane
wrote:

On 2/26/2014 7:24 AM, wrote:
When labor rates are $85

per hour, and all parts are sold at retail, repair costs add up quickly.

........................

where are LBS rates $85/hr ?



No idea. They're usually around 60 CDN here.

What are salaries like at the LBS?

No idea. They don't seem to have problems finding decent mechs though.

Our sort of "rule of thumb" was to bill twice the individual's cost,
however that was for work done at your work site and wasn't really an
iron clad figure. If one had to provide the work site, tools, etc., it
would obviously be different but the mechanics might well be getting,
say $20 an hour. Is that good money?

--
Cheers,

John B.

John B. wrote:
On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 02:31:10 +0000 (UTC), Duane
wrote:

John B. wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 08:38:46 -0500, Duane
wrote:

On 2/26/2014 7:24 AM, wrote:
When labor rates are $85

per hour, and all parts are sold at retail, repair costs add up quickly.

........................

where are LBS rates $85/hr ?



No idea. They're usually around 60 CDN here.

What are salaries like at the LBS?

No idea. They don't seem to have problems finding decent mechs though.

Our sort of "rule of thumb" was to bill twice the individual's cost,
however that was for work done at your work site and wasn't really an
iron clad figure. If one had to provide the work site, tools, etc., it
would obviously be different but the mechanics might well be getting,
say $20 an hour. Is that good money?


For non-union blue collar type skilled labor? Possibly.
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duane

On 2/23/2014 4:36 PM, Lou Holtman wrote:
If a stranger comes to me and ask me to fix a flat on a rear tire on a Dutch city bike with a full chain case with a gear hub and drum brakes for 10 euro I will tell him to look for someone else.

What if it was her and not him?

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T0m $herm@n

John B. wrote:
On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 02:31:10 +0000 (UTC), Duane
wrote:

John B. wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 08:38:46 -0500, Duane
wrote:

On 2/26/2014 7:24 AM, wrote:
When labor rates are $85

per hour, and all parts are sold at retail, repair costs add up quickly.

........................

where are LBS rates $85/hr ?



No idea. They're usually around 60 CDN here.

What are salaries like at the LBS?

No idea. They don't seem to have problems finding decent mechs though.

Our sort of "rule of thumb" was to bill twice the individual's cost,
however that was for work done at your work site and wasn't really an
iron clad figure. If one had to provide the work site, tools, etc., it
would obviously be different but the mechanics might well be getting,
say $20 an hour. Is that good money?


I would have guessed $15+ based on retail being twice wholesale (so it
costs the LBS owner $30/hr) and wages being half of costs. Now, I'm also
assuming that the wrenches get some sort of benefits, so my estimate may be
low.