BV 4pagers in The Age

flyingdutch wrote:
snip

PS first time I have seen anything nearing official advice NOT to wear
headphones whilst riding (and no, of course they didnt mention
joggers/walkers doing same )


I don't get that at all. I quite often ride with an MP3 player. Although
I'm not likely to use it in heavy traffic.

I don't see why it's any different to having music on in the car.

--
Nick

"NickZX6R"
flyingdutch wrote:
snip

PS first time I have seen anything nearing official advice NOT to wear
headphones whilst riding (and no, of course they didnt mention
joggers/walkers doing same )


I don't get that at all. I quite often ride with an MP3 player. Although
I'm not likely to use it in heavy traffic.

I don't see why it's any different to having music on in the car.

I thought I'd seen all the arguments.. but I don't recall this one.
That's tops! I crank my system in the car (fully sick subwoofer
mate!) but don't often ride with tunes on because I feel better
without headphones on in traffic. I guess I use my ears a lot
more whilst on the bike. "sounds like a vb commodore.. better
get the birdy ready.." :-)

hippy

Are these maps downloadable anywhere?


"flyingdutch" wrote in
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Yesterday i was pleasantly surprised to find (in the A3 section of my
morning paper) a 4page liftout on:
'Melbournes's Bike Paths - Bayside'
with 2 pages dedicated to Health, Safety, riding at night, in traffic
and, on shared paths.
The other 2 pages was detailed maps of the Pths stretching from Willie
to Patterson River, with detailed maps of specific sections

And today there is another one!
Yarra-Dandenong. Same first 2 pages as yesterday and the other 2 pages
are a large map of paths going from Patterson River up to near the 1/20
starting point.

Seems to be funded by State Govt but unsure about that bit

A few of the tips/photos are a bit dodgy (one of them is from a CM
ride! ) but apart from that a great profile-raiser


--
flyingdutch

Andrew Morris Wrote:
Are these maps downloadable anywhere?


"flyingdutch" wrot
in
message ...

Yesterday i was pleasantly surprised to find (in the A3 section o
my
morning paper) a 4page liftout on:
'Melbournes's Bike Paths - Bayside'
with 2 pages dedicated to Health, Safety, riding at night, i
traffic
and, on shared paths.
The other 2 pages was detailed maps of the Pths stretching fro
Willie
to Patterson River, with detailed maps of specific sections

And today there is another one!
Yarra-Dandenong. Same first 2 pages as yesterday and the other
pages
are a large map of paths going from Patterson River up to near th
1/20
starting point.

Seems to be funded by State Govt but unsure about that bi


A few of the tips/photos are a bit dodgy (one of them is from a CM
ride! ) but apart from that a great profile-raiser


--
flyingdutch


not in that form. many of them are on the BV or relevant railtrail sit
tho..

--
flyingdutch

Are these maps downloadable anywhere?

not in that form. many of them are on the BV or relevant railtrail
site tho...

Any idea if they'll become available online, or on more durable paper like the old Herald Sun ones did?

Huw Wrote:
Are these maps downloadable anywhere?

not in that form. many of them are on the BV or relevant railtrail
site tho...

Any idea if they'll become available online, or on more durable pape
like the old Herald Sun ones did?

Guess you could get them photocopied onto heavier stock.
Contact BV and/or the Age. Bt like I said, ALL these maps wer
sourced/done-in-conjunction-with BV and the railtrail org'
originally...

try these...

http://www.bv.com.au/Content/Navigat.../Bike_maps.htm

http://www.railtrails.org.au/states/vic

--
flyingdutch

hippy Wrote:[color=blue]
"NickZX6R" [color=blue]
flyingdutch wrote:
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I thought I'd seen all the arguments.. but I don't recall this one.
That's tops! I crank my system in the car (fully sick subwoofer
mate!) but don't often ride with tunes on because I feel better
without headphones on in traffic. I guess I use my ears a lot
more whilst on the bike. "sounds like a vb commodore.. better
get the birdy ready.." :-)

hippy

I often ride with my iPod. Apple earbuds let in so much noise that
haven't noticed any decreased awareness of surrounding traffic (
haven't been hit by anything either). I do use a Zefal rearview mirror

--
ProfTournesol

NickZX6R Wrote:
flyingdutch wrote
snip

PS first time I have seen anything nearing official advice NOT t
wea
headphones whilst riding (and no, of course they didnt mentio
joggers/walkers doing same


I don't get that at all. I quite often ride with an MP3 player
Althoug
I'm not likely to use it in heavy traffic

I don't see why it's any different to having music on in the car

-
Nick
Duh!!

Mirrors, a steel cage and the fact that you generally don't get passe
by cars doing 20-30kmh more than you when you're in a car

Ride with headphones for a year on the road and then come back here an
tell us about it. Somehow, I don't think you'll be able to..

--
nitrous

I did, & here I am.

Well, it's actually 13yrs of commuting (even though the last 5yrs hav
been mostly off-the-road bike path generally)

--
Marx SS

Any idea if they'll become available online, or on more durable paper
like the old Herald Sun ones did?

Guess you could get them photocopied onto heavier stock.
Contact BV and/or the Age. Bt like I said, ALL these maps were
sourced/done-in-conjunction-with BV and the railtrail org's
originally...

try these...

http://www.bv.com.au/Content/Navigat.../Bike_maps.htm

http://www.railtrails.org.au/states/vic/

Thanks. I haven't managed to get the Age once this week, and have only seen Thursday's, which was railtrails. What was in Wednesday's?

I hadn't looked around the BV site before - there's a good range of maps there, but they're only really schematic. I know from experience how hard some of the city bike paths are to follow - many sections are not at all obvious, especially at connecting points. I assume the maps in the Age make it possible to ride them without having to repeatedly retrace your steps, as is normal on most peoples' first attempts.

The BV site also alerted me to Melway map 592, which I've somehow never noticed before. It's a cleaned up version of those on the VicRoads site. So thanks again for that.

I'm interested in all this because I know how good Melbourne's bike path network is, but think it's a shame that 99% of potential users have no idea about it. I know the die-hard cyclists, such as many of us on this group, use them, but countless people I've met have only ever ridden a short section of one trail, once or twice, without realising they could just as easily ride other nice places, or longer distances.