BV Bikes heading west

On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 at 10:13 GMT, flyingdutch (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
why the heck is that site saying
"Welcome to visitors from South Africa." ??????

is perth really THAT close to SA?

We've got a couple of South Africans at work, and they all moved to
Perth before travelling out here.

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TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/
Information wants to be beer, or something like that. --unknown

The South Africans are going to be disappointed if they expect to see koalas
clinging to trees in WA ....see advertising on :
http://www.bv.com.au/Content/Navigat...Bike_Ride1.htm


bjay Wrote:
"SteveA" wrote

I was given a brochure for the Albany to Perth ride on Sunday.
snip

Can you give me some more info on this ride? For example, what sort of
ride
is it, who is organising it, (can you do the ride and NOT receive the
free
bike!)?

Bjay
I don't have the brochure here at work with me but there is some info
he http://www.dpi.wa.gov.au/cycling/

and here http://tinyurl.com/4n9jg

It is a 2 week cycle tour from Albany to Perth. You can do the first
or second week or both weeks. It is planned for March 2006. I was
given the glossy brochure at the finish of the Freeway Bike Hike on
Sunday.

SteveA


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SteveA

flyingdutch Wrote:
why the heck is that site sayin
"Welcome to visitors from South Africa." ?????

is perth really THAT close to SA?

It's the Bike Victoria site advertising a Western Australian ride b
referring to something that happens in South Africa. Who's confused?

Steve

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SteveA

Quokka Wrote:
bjay wrote
"SteveA" wrot

I was given a brochure for the Albany to Perth ride on Sunday

snip

Can you give me some more info on this ride? For example, what sor
of rid
is it, who is organising it, (can you do the ride and NOT receive th
fre
bike!)

This is all I could find... I was looking for a cost..
anyone know (roughly) how much it might cost to participate

http://tinyurl.com/6olg

Paul.

I've looked through the brochure I was given and can't find a price

Other info in the brochure
route - Albany to Perth via Denmark, Walpole, Shannon River, Manjimup
Nannup, Augusta, Margaret River, Busselton, Bunbury, and Pinjarr
average per day - 75 k
maximum day - 100 k
total distance - 827 k
rest days - Manjimup (day 5), Margaret River (days 9 & 10, incl concer
at Leeuwin Estate
provided - all meals except lunch on rest days, vegetarian mea
options, luggage transport, maps & guides, sag wago
accomodation - tents provided by participant
camp facilities - toilets, showers, daily ride newsletter, unlimite
tea & coffee, movies, live music/entertainment, masseurs, medical
first aid, licensed cafe, local vendors (eg espresso, pizza, ic
cream), overnight camp securit
camping areas - choice of quiet, family or general areas

The brochure has logos of the WA Government, Main Roads WA, Wester
Australia.com on it but it appears to be a Bike Victoria brochure. Al
the contacts are BV and booking the trip is through BV. A phone call t
BV would probably be the easiest way to get a copy of the brochure i
you wanted one

Given that this seems to be the WA version of the Great Vic Bike Rid
run by the same people, the same cost per day could be the bes
approximation available at present - any Melburnians know the cost pe
day of the GVBR

Steve

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SteveA

SteveA wrote:

Given that this seems to be the WA version of the Great Vic Bike Ride
run by the same people, the same cost per day could be the best
approximation available at present

Not if you have to truck/shift equipment, vehicles and people back and
forth across the Nullabor.

SteveA Wrote:
The brochure has logos of the WA Government, Main Roads WA, Wester
Australia.com on it but it appears to be a Bike Victoria brochure. Al
the contacts are BV and booking the trip is through BV. A phone call t
BV would probably be the easiest way to get a copy of the brochure i
you wanted one.
SteveA


Any logos or mention of WA's Bicycle Transportation Alliance?
http://www.multiline.com.au/~bta/

It's all about selling a product, rather than networking with existin
state and national cycling organisations. Already been done in Sout
Australia, Tasmania, NSW and New Zealand

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cfsmtb

flyingdutch wrote:

why the heck is that site saying
"Welcome to visitors from South Africa." ??????

is perth really THAT close to SA?

Probably closer to Jo-berg than any other city the size of Perth. Would take
an hour longer to fly there than to Sydney. Bali (Denpasar) is closer to
Perth than Sydney. By road, Perth is further from Darwin than any other
mainland capital.

Yeah, in Perth, we're sorta out there.

Theo

Terry Collins Wrote:
SteveA wrote

Given that this seems to be the WA version of the Great Vic Bike Rid
run by the same people, the same cost per day could be the bes
approximation available at presen

Not if you have to truck/shift equipment, vehicles and people back an
forth across the Nullabor.

For the moment, for the purposes of making a 'best guess' estimate o
price, I have assumed that almost all equipment, vehicles and peopl
will be 'locally engaged', with very little coming from Vic. Then ad
10%, if you like, to account for different costs in WA and possibly
small number of officials and bits of equipment coming from Vic.

I did say 'best approximation at present'. Contacting BV might give
better idea, or they might not yet have struck the price (likely as i
is not on the BV website as far as I could tell)

Any other suggestions for guestimating the price with or withou
Nullarbor effect would be welcome. (Terry?

cheer
Steve

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SteveA

cfsmtb Wrote:
Any logos or mention of WA's Bicycle Transportation Alliance
http://www.multiline.com.au/~bta

It's all about selling a product, rather than networking with existin
state and national cycling organisations. Already been done in Sout
Australia, Tasmania, NSW and New Zealand.

The cover page (3 x A4 gatefold glossy brochure) indicates that Mai
Roads WA is the sponsor. The rest, however, clearly has a B
'flavour'. BTA gets a logo on the back page at the bottom next to th
contact details (all BV contacts). BTA also gets a mention inside th
brochure "The Bicycle Transportation Alliance and Bicycle Victori
invite you to join the Main Roads Great Western Australian Bike Ride"

I just noticed that 'Main Roads Great Western Australian Bike Ride' i
shown as being trade marked. I wonder who owns the trademark? I
Australia does not show it as registered yet on its database. Hmmm

Steve

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SteveA

SteveA wrote:

For the moment, for the purposes of making a 'best guess' estimate of
price, I have assumed that almost all equipment, vehicles and people
will be 'locally engaged', with very little coming from Vic.

Perhaps someone who has been involved in the recent BV GVBR can cast
light there.

I've just looked at Yellow Pages for Perth and there are 204 party hire
places and 35 catering hire places, compared to 342 & 62 in Sydney. So,
my guess is that it is feasible to hire locally if someone knows what to
look for. The last bit is rather important.

Otherwise, it is really just a return container trip to and from Perth.
You might fly only a handful of key, experienced people.

Any other suggestions for guestimating the price with or without
Nullarbor effect would be welcome. (Terry?)

Foodwise, I am probably a bit out of date. My best guess 16 years ago
was 150% of what I paid in my area of Sydney (very economical). If I was
going to budget these days, I would get the sister-in-law to send me a
months worth of food and grocery shopping dockets.

A comparison of Perth Vs Sydney Markets will cover the bulk of your
food, but that is really only 20% of your food cost. A similar job on
meat would give your another 30% of your food cost. I guess bread and
milk are similar.

Whereas for the rest, I shopped in the local supermarket (up to 50
people), their catering would be bulk purchased from suppliers and that
isn't neccessarily easy to estimate. It is the fiddly stuff like
condiments, jams, spices, herbs, etc that make up 50% of your food
costs.

Woops, I've been saying Sydney, it should be Perth Vs Melbourne
comparisons.

Also, I suspect you will have less numbers for WA, so overheads will be
higher.

Perhaps 25% extra and hope you are pleasantly surprised.

Does anyone know if Perth-Sydney return airfares are still cheaper than
Sydney-Perth return airfares atm?