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Old December 3rd 03, 06:23 AM
Rick
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Even service jobs aren't immune - witness the Dell tech support call
center debacle.


Which is why Dell is bringing many back, I predict more companies will do

so
in the future


Having worked in the computer industry for 15+ years, it is clear that most
companies will not be bringing back jobs to the US market. It is possible
for people in India, for example, to live comfortably on a salary that is
70-80% lower than a comparable job in San Jose. Companies threatened to move
business overseas about the time I started working in the industry because
US employees were too expensive. The H1B visas allowed foreign nationals to
be hired to fill technical jobs in the US even though their argument that
qualified workers could not be found here was hogwash.

In any case, these formerly high-paying jobs are moving to India, China,
Ireland, and Eastern Europe, and away from the US. The world economy will
eventually catch up, but until that happens, we can expect a gradual
decrease in the US economy until the whole situation stabalizes. This has
happened to Japan (as Korea, Taiwan, and China grew) and will happen here as
well.

Rick


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Old December 3rd 03, 03:08 PM
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Gas taxes SHOULD cover the roads but they don't, in the end the gas tax
ends
up being another convenient (and hidden) way government gets more money to
waste


And the amount of subcidies the petrolem producing, exploring and refining
companies gets from the US gov per gallon exceed the taxes paid for each
gallon of gas at the pump. Therefore, each time you buy a gallon of gas it
costs the US gov money.


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Old December 5th 03, 10:22 PM
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Is there a pro-bike law activist group? Particularly one that goes after
killer drivers and laws/prosecutors that protect them?

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Old December 6th 03, 08:21 AM
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Mark Leuck wrote:

Sorry I had forgotten to factor in the truck market, still I'd much rather
have a system where I can choose what I want to drive than having it forced
on my by massive tax increases on fuel and misguided governments.


With the current system of highway/street funding systems in the US,
those driving small fuel-efficient motor vehicles (and even more so
those who are car free) subsidize those who drive large, high fuel
consumption vehicles for personal use. This is a distortion of the free
market that US conservatives claim to hold so dear (until it cuts into
their share of government welfare).

Tom Sherman - Planet Earth

"There is enough in the world for everyone's need; there is not enough
for everyone's greed." - Mohandas Gandhi
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Old December 6th 03, 08:23 AM
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Marc VanHeyningen wrote:

In general, you are rewarded for working hard enough that you don't get
fired.

If you work harder than that, the incremental reward you will receive is
typically pretty small. Sometimes it's even negative, as people who
work harder are "rewarded" by being given more work but no more money.


Been there, done that.

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for everyone's greed." - Mohandas Gandhi
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Old December 11th 03, 04:59 AM
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"Raoul Duke" wrote in message
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Great idea. So why don't you start and set the example for the rest of

us.
Every time you buy a gallon of gas you should send the government $4.


Hm, let's see: $87 billion divided by ca. 330 million population at
$4/gallon gives you 66 gallons on which to pay a surcharge. Above this
plateau, presumably, you are allowed to rest, given that you've paid your
share for this particular budget item...until the next one.

Ah, dear. This is almost fun.

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Old December 11th 03, 06:01 AM
ma bi
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dont flaming liberals ever get tired of being wrong??

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Old December 12th 03, 05:56 PM
Dr Engelbert Buxbaum
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Mark Leuck wrote:


Lets see what a hike to $4-5/gallon will do

1. Higher cost of goods
2. More businesses moving overseas because of #1
3. Fewer jobs because of #2


Your assumptions are not necessarily true. Higher costs of transport
could be offset by buying more locally produced goods. Over here for
example a lot of small, local dairy factories have closed. The milk is
instead transported over huge distances into large factories, turned
into milk products (yoghurt, butter, cheese...) and then transported
nationwide to the consumers. 20, 30 years ago a dairy factory may have
supplied a county only.

This change was possible because road transport is highly subsidised
from general tax money (income, property, sales tax (17% in Germany,
even higher in most EU countries) and the like). If road transport had
to be paid for entirely by those people who use it (road and gas tax),
other taxes could (at least in theory) be lowered. Goods transported
over large distances would be more expensive, but small, local units
could compete on a fair basis.

Producing goods more locally would result in smaller factories, for
which expensive maschines are not so economic. Thus more work would be
done by people, and the number of jobs (especially for unskilled workers
which are more easy to replace by maschines) would tend to rise.
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Old December 12th 03, 05:56 PM
Dr Engelbert Buxbaum
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Jeff Potter wrote:


Remember, this is a world where prosecutors and lawyers easily win cases
regarding hot coffee and hayride tumbles (I just heard this one locally).

A car hitting someone should be a BIG problem for any driver. Crazy to think
that it's not.


The difference is simple: If you go after McDonnalds for selling too hot
coffee, none of the members of the jury will be affected, as they don't
sell coffee.

If you go after a reckless car driver, all of the jury members are
affected, as they all drive cars. And they will protect the a****** so
as not to set a precedent against themselfs.

As a friend from the legal profession once told me: If the normal laws
regarding manslaughter, recless killing, grievous bodily harm and so on
were applied to car drivers, we would all land in jail, because we all
drive cars.

The result of that attitude: A car driver slams into a group of
pedestrians at a zebra crossing, killing a child in the process.
Punishment: a 250 British Pound (approx. 400 USD) fine!
 




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