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Per Tim McNamara:
Well, we don't know yet if he is a nutcase or what. No doubt more information will appear; who knows if he will provide anything useful himself. He did at least leave some written notes in the truck (or at least someone did, he seems like the most likely candidate) indicating at least inspiration by ISIS. Apparently ISIS publishes playbooks on how to do this stuff. The accounts I have heard say that his actions were right out of the ISIS playbook - including the leaflets and trying to get himself killed. The knives he had for the purpose of killing pedestrians after the crash and getting himself killed because unavailable due to the crash so he grabbed the paint ball gun and something else. -- Pete Cresswell |
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Per Duane:
Something about murdering unarmed innocents in order to get into heaven with the virgins... -------------------------------------------------------------------------- After getting nailed by the U.S. Seal team, Osama makes his way to the pearly gates. There, he is greeted by George Washington. "How dare you attack the nation I helped conceive!" yells Mr. Washington, slapping Osama in the face. Patrick Henry comes up from behind. "You wanted to end the Americans' liberty, so they gave you death!" Henry punches Osama on the nose. James Madison comes up next, and says "This is why I allowed the Federal government to provide for the common defense!" He drops a large weight on Osama's knee. Osama is subject to similar beatings from John Randolph of Roanoke, James Monroe, and 65 other people who have the same love for liberty and America. As he writhes on the ground, Thomas Jefferson picks him up to hurl him back toward the gate where he is to be judged. As Osama awaits his journey to his final very hot destination, he screams "This is not what I was promised!" An angel replies "I told you there would be 72 Virginians waiting for you. What did you think I said?" -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Pete Cresswell |
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On Fri, 03 Nov 2017 18:11:53 -0400, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Tim McNamara: Well, we don't know yet if he is a nutcase or what. No doubt more information will appear; who knows if he will provide anything useful himself. He did at least leave some written notes in the truck (or at least someone did, he seems like the most likely candidate) indicating at least inspiration by ISIS. Apparently ISIS publishes playbooks on how to do this stuff. The accounts I have heard say that his actions were right out of the ISIS playbook - including the leaflets and trying to get himself killed. Yes, that is my understanding. Not having frequented pro-ISIS websites I have not seen this for myself, but on NPR yesterday or the day before this was spoken of with direct quotes out of the ISIS "manual" for such attacks. It's not a long or complicated recipe, renting a large vehicle and running people down with it doesn't take a rocket scientist. The knives he had for the purpose of killing pedestrians after the crash and getting himself killed because unavailable due to the crash so he grabbed the paint ball gun and something else. BB gun according to what I have seen in the news. Fortunately a NYPD cop figured out how to shot to wound, so he was stopped and is questionable (and triable). My understanding from the news is that he requested an ISIS flag for his room. The request was not accommodated. |
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On Friday, November 3, 2017 at 10:13:43 PM UTC, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Duane: Something about murdering unarmed innocents in order to get into heaven with the virgins... -------------------------------------------------------------------------- After getting nailed by the U.S. Seal team, Osama makes his way to the pearly gates. There, he is greeted by George Washington. "How dare you attack the nation I helped conceive!" yells Mr. Washington, slapping Osama in the face. Patrick Henry comes up from behind. "You wanted to end the Americans' liberty, so they gave you death!" Henry punches Osama on the nose. James Madison comes up next, and says "This is why I allowed the Federal government to provide for the common defense!" He drops a large weight on Osama's knee. Osama is subject to similar beatings from John Randolph of Roanoke, James Monroe, and 65 other people who have the same love for liberty and America. As he writhes on the ground, Thomas Jefferson picks him up to hurl him back toward the gate where he is to be judged. As Osama awaits his journey to his final very hot destination, he screams "This is not what I was promised!" An angel replies "I told you there would be 72 Virginians waiting for you. What did you think I said?" -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Pete Cresswell It couldn't happen to a more deserving jihadi! AJ |
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On 11/3/2017 5:47 PM, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Fri, 03 Nov 2017 18:11:53 -0400, (PeteCresswell) wrote: Per Tim McNamara: Well, we don't know yet if he is a nutcase or what. No doubt more information will appear; who knows if he will provide anything useful himself. He did at least leave some written notes in the truck (or at least someone did, he seems like the most likely candidate) indicating at least inspiration by ISIS. Apparently ISIS publishes playbooks on how to do this stuff. The accounts I have heard say that his actions were right out of the ISIS playbook - including the leaflets and trying to get himself killed. Yes, that is my understanding. Not having frequented pro-ISIS websites I have not seen this for myself, but on NPR yesterday or the day before this was spoken of with direct quotes out of the ISIS "manual" for such attacks. It's not a long or complicated recipe, renting a large vehicle and running people down with it doesn't take a rocket scientist. The knives he had for the purpose of killing pedestrians after the crash and getting himself killed because unavailable due to the crash so he grabbed the paint ball gun and something else. BB gun according to what I have seen in the news. Fortunately a NYPD cop figured out how to shot to wound, so he was stopped and is questionable (and triable). My understanding from the news is that he requested an ISIS flag for his room. The request was not accommodated. "figured out how to shoot to wound" NYPD officer had a pistol, adrenaline and the usual confusion of the moment. He's trained to hit center of mass, which he did. The fact that it was not a mortal wound is accidental. And incidental, actually, as he did stop the threat to human life which is the standard here. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 6:07:48 PM UTC-7, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Wed, 01 Nov 2017 17:35:44 -0400, (PeteCresswell) wrote: Per John B.: The Bangkok Post has it that "The attacker was taken into custody after he was shot in the stomach by a New York City policeman, and neutralised". It's encouraging that the NY cops, at least, have caught on the idea of taking these guys alive so they can be "Debriefed" instead of blowing them to smithereens on the spot. I guess it's all money in the pocket for the media people, but if I had my druthers, the story would be "Another nutcase kills a bunch of people" and leave it at that until some group/plot emerges. Well, we don't know yet if he is a nutcase or what. No doubt more information will appear; who knows if he will provide anything useful himself. He did at least leave some written notes in the truck (or at least someone did, he seems like the most likely candidate) indicating at least inspiration by ISIS. Perhaps we could at least get the president to stop adding so much fuel to the fire. Yeah, right, like that's gonna happen. He has to keep the fires built high to distract from other things (like fleecing the middle class to pay for the rich folks' tax cuts). I think it's fair to conclude that he was ****ed off because he is short and looks like a dope. https://www.yahoo.com/news/sister-yo...162102000.html The trick is to look like Omar Sharif and get the virgins on earth, but when you look like that dude, you have to rent a truck from Home Depot and go with plan B -- the post-death virgins. I'm all for giving him a lengthy prison sentence at Sing Sing where he can be the virgin, if only briefly. -- Jay Beattie. |
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On Fri, 03 Nov 2017 17:47:09 -0500, Tim McNamara
wrote: On Fri, 03 Nov 2017 18:11:53 -0400, (PeteCresswell) wrote: Per Tim McNamara: Well, we don't know yet if he is a nutcase or what. No doubt more information will appear; who knows if he will provide anything useful himself. He did at least leave some written notes in the truck (or at least someone did, he seems like the most likely candidate) indicating at least inspiration by ISIS. Apparently ISIS publishes playbooks on how to do this stuff. The accounts I have heard say that his actions were right out of the ISIS playbook - including the leaflets and trying to get himself killed. Yes, that is my understanding. Not having frequented pro-ISIS websites I have not seen this for myself, but on NPR yesterday or the day before this was spoken of with direct quotes out of the ISIS "manual" for such attacks. It's not a long or complicated recipe, renting a large vehicle and running people down with it doesn't take a rocket scientist. The knives he had for the purpose of killing pedestrians after the crash and getting himself killed because unavailable due to the crash so he grabbed the paint ball gun and something else. BB gun according to what I have seen in the news. Fortunately a NYPD cop figured out how to shot to wound, so he was stopped and is questionable (and triable). I rather doubt that in any situation deemed to be sufficiently dangerious to justify shooting anyone ever "shot to wound". My understanding from the news is that he requested an ISIS flag for his room. The request was not accommodated. -- Cheers, John B. |
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Per AMuzi:
The fact that it was not a mortal wound is accidental. And incidental, actually, as he did stop the threat to human life which is the standard here. If that is the case, it's disappointing. OTOH, at least he didn't empty his magazine into the guy. Ever since the Boston Marathon debacle, I've had a weed up my butt about cops blowing guys like that away before they can be properly "Debriefed". -- Pete Cresswell |
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"(PeteCresswell)" writes:
Per AMuzi: The fact that it was not a mortal wound is accidental. And incidental, actually, as he did stop the threat to human life which is the standard here. If that is the case, it's disappointing. OTOH, at least he didn't empty his magazine into the guy. Ever since the Boston Marathon debacle, I've had a weed up my butt about cops blowing guys like that away before they can be properly "Debriefed". The Tsarnaev shooting did seem unnecessary, almost like compensating for finding him outside the police perimeter. The one that should really make you go "hmmm" was Todashev -- WTF was that? At least they didn't shoot up any newspaper delivery trucks like the California police did in the Dorner manhunt. -- |
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On Sat, 04 Nov 2017 17:48:48 -0400, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per AMuzi: The fact that it was not a mortal wound is accidental. And incidental, actually, as he did stop the threat to human life which is the standard here. If that is the case, it's disappointing. OTOH, at least he didn't empty his magazine into the guy. Ever since the Boston Marathon debacle, I've had a weed up my butt about cops blowing guys like that away before they can be properly "Debriefed". Just killin' da perps is more satisfying to many folks. And if a few people get taken out by cops despite not being a threat, in some cases not even actually a criminal, well that's a small price to pay (except, of course, for the dead person...). The love of frontier justice is alive and well in the US. Old Donald seems to be particularly rabid to bag his first capital punishment, being as that would be the ultimate proof of his power. |
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