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On 2/4/2019 2:26 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Monday, February 4, 2019 at 11:28:16 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote: I don't bother to lock my bike at either place. Security is just a little wedge thing jammed into my brake lever, to hold my front brake on tightly. -- - Frank Krygowski "Lock it or lose it" is often touted hereabouts. There was a guy bicycling across Canada a couple of years ago. He was headed East from British Columbia and he stopped at a store in Montreal, Quebec. When he came out his bike and all his gear was gone. I don't know what happened after that. I loaned a friend of mine a very nice Fiori Modena 14 gears road bike. He phoned me new years eve to tell me that he stopped at a coffee shop and forgot to lock the bike. It was raining then. When he came out the bike was gone. All it takes is someone to see an unlocked bike and grab it. They usually only ride to near their destination and then dump it. Whatever, the chance of getting a stolen bike back these days is pretty slim. I hope your luck holds for you when you leave your bike unlocked. Heck even if you see someone stealing your bike when you're in a store, by the time you run out of the store your bike is long gone. I get groceries in two different towns. Both have made the top-10 list for "safest communities in Ohio," so I don't worry very much. But here's what I mean about the wedge thing: https://randalputnam.files.wordpress...13/05/sb-1.jpg I was using things like this long before Blackburn ever manufactured them. A guy at a bike rally showed his to me back in the 1970s and I copied it. I've made rubber ones that work with STI shifters, and other designs for other lever types. It's obviously not foolproof, but it's inconspicuous and would probably flummox the typical grab-and-run thief enough that he would think better of the idea. The guy who showed me the first one had that experience, where he saw a guy try to grab his bike but almost fall over it when it wouldn't move, then jog away. For unfamiliar places and longer stops, I do use a cable lock, but even that is lightweight and home made. The worst problems I've ever had was to have cyclometers stolen. I guess anything digital looks cool to a young teenager. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Monday, February 4, 2019 at 11:28:16 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 2/4/2019 8:46 AM, Duane wrote: There are advantages and disadvantages to either backpacks or panniers and it's the individual's needs/wants that will dictate their choice. I agree. And the purpose of a discussion group like this is to discuss those advantages and disadvantages. I use my backpack for commuting and I have a locker and shower at work. I don't do groceries on my bike.Â* It's not a question of whether I can carry things or not for me but a question of locking my bike up outside. I don't leave my bike outside unattended. One reason for a grocery bike is to have something to park that doesn't look like it's worth thousands of dollars, or like it's super-fashionable. Also, it's worth thinking about where you're parking your bike. At our usual grocery, I park my bike at the exit where it's visible only to grocery patrons entering and leaving. At the other, I roll my bike inside and lean it on the wall near the door. I don't bother to lock my bike at either place. Security is just a little wedge thing jammed into my brake lever, to hold my front brake on tightly. -- - Frank Krygowski "Lock it or lose it" is often touted hereabouts. There was a guy bicycling across Canada a couple of years ago. He was headed East from British Columbia and he stopped at a store in Montreal, Quebec. When he came out his bike and all his gear was gone. I don't know what happened after that. I loaned a friend of mine a very nice Fiori Modena 14 gears road bike. He phoned me new years eve to tell me that he stopped at a coffee shop and forgot to lock the bike. It was raining then. When he came out the bike was gone. All it takes is someone to see an unlocked bike and grab it. They usually only ride to near their destination and then dump it. Whatever, the chance of getting a stolen bike back these days is pretty slim. I hope your luck holds for you when you leave your bike unlocked. Heck even if you see someone stealing your bike when you're in a store, by the time you run out of the store your bike is long gone. Cheers I remember reading about that. Sucks. Didn’t some locals replace the bike? There are kits for sale here to make a decent bike look like a trash bike. Most of the local thieves know their products but it stops the spur of the moment theft I think. Anyway, if you want to do that I’m sure there are ways around it. I just don’t enjoy that. That’s not a criticism. I’m happy to see anyone riding. -- duane |
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On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:41:04 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote: On 2/4/2019 2:26 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Monday, February 4, 2019 at 11:28:16 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote: I don't bother to lock my bike at either place. Security is just a little wedge thing jammed into my brake lever, to hold my front brake on tightly. -- - Frank Krygowski "Lock it or lose it" is often touted hereabouts. There was a guy bicycling across Canada a couple of years ago. He was headed East from British Columbia and he stopped at a store in Montreal, Quebec. When he came out his bike and all his gear was gone. I don't know what happened after that. I loaned a friend of mine a very nice Fiori Modena 14 gears road bike. He phoned me new years eve to tell me that he stopped at a coffee shop and forgot to lock the bike. It was raining then. When he came out the bike was gone. All it takes is someone to see an unlocked bike and grab it. They usually only ride to near their destination and then dump it. Whatever, the chance of getting a stolen bike back these days is pretty slim. I hope your luck holds for you when you leave your bike unlocked. Heck even if you see someone stealing your bike when you're in a store, by the time you run out of the store your bike is long gone. I get groceries in two different towns. Both have made the top-10 list for "safest communities in Ohio," so I don't worry very much. But here's what I mean about the wedge thing: https://randalputnam.files.wordpress...13/05/sb-1.jpg I was using things like this long before Blackburn ever manufactured them. A guy at a bike rally showed his to me back in the 1970s and I copied it. I've made rubber ones that work with STI shifters, and other designs for other lever types. Is the "wedge" adjustable in case you adjust the brakes or simply that the taper is long enough to take care of small variations in brake lever angle? -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 23:09:45 -0000 (UTC), Duane wrote:
Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Monday, February 4, 2019 at 11:28:16 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 2/4/2019 8:46 AM, Duane wrote: There are advantages and disadvantages to either backpacks or panniers and it's the individual's needs/wants that will dictate their choice. I agree. And the purpose of a discussion group like this is to discuss those advantages and disadvantages. I use my backpack for commuting and I have a locker and shower at work. I don't do groceries on my bike.* It's not a question of whether I can carry things or not for me but a question of locking my bike up outside. I don't leave my bike outside unattended. One reason for a grocery bike is to have something to park that doesn't look like it's worth thousands of dollars, or like it's super-fashionable. Also, it's worth thinking about where you're parking your bike. At our usual grocery, I park my bike at the exit where it's visible only to grocery patrons entering and leaving. At the other, I roll my bike inside and lean it on the wall near the door. I don't bother to lock my bike at either place. Security is just a little wedge thing jammed into my brake lever, to hold my front brake on tightly. -- - Frank Krygowski "Lock it or lose it" is often touted hereabouts. There was a guy bicycling across Canada a couple of years ago. He was headed East from British Columbia and he stopped at a store in Montreal, Quebec. When he came out his bike and all his gear was gone. I don't know what happened after that. I loaned a friend of mine a very nice Fiori Modena 14 gears road bike. He phoned me new years eve to tell me that he stopped at a coffee shop and forgot to lock the bike. It was raining then. When he came out the bike was gone. All it takes is someone to see an unlocked bike and grab it. They usually only ride to near their destination and then dump it. Whatever, the chance of getting a stolen bike back these days is pretty slim. I hope your luck holds for you when you leave your bike unlocked. Heck even if you see someone stealing your bike when you're in a store, by the time you run out of the store your bike is long gone. Cheers I remember reading about that. Sucks. Didn’t some locals replace the bike? There are kits for sale here to make a decent bike look like a trash bike. Most of the local thieves know their products but it stops the spur of the moment theft I think. Anyway, if you want to do that I’m sure there are ways around it. I just don’t enjoy that. That’s not a criticism. I’m happy to see anyone riding. The perfect method of prevent bike thefts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPHJqZr_ljg -- Cheers, John B. |
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On 2/4/2019 6:46 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:41:04 -0500, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 2/4/2019 2:26 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Monday, February 4, 2019 at 11:28:16 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote: I don't bother to lock my bike at either place. Security is just a little wedge thing jammed into my brake lever, to hold my front brake on tightly. -- - Frank Krygowski "Lock it or lose it" is often touted hereabouts. There was a guy bicycling across Canada a couple of years ago. He was headed East from British Columbia and he stopped at a store in Montreal, Quebec. When he came out his bike and all his gear was gone. I don't know what happened after that. I loaned a friend of mine a very nice Fiori Modena 14 gears road bike. He phoned me new years eve to tell me that he stopped at a coffee shop and forgot to lock the bike. It was raining then. When he came out the bike was gone. All it takes is someone to see an unlocked bike and grab it. They usually only ride to near their destination and then dump it. Whatever, the chance of getting a stolen bike back these days is pretty slim. I hope your luck holds for you when you leave your bike unlocked. Heck even if you see someone stealing your bike when you're in a store, by the time you run out of the store your bike is long gone. I get groceries in two different towns. Both have made the top-10 list for "safest communities in Ohio," so I don't worry very much. But here's what I mean about the wedge thing: https://randalputnam.files.wordpress...13/05/sb-1.jpg I was using things like this long before Blackburn ever manufactured them. A guy at a bike rally showed his to me back in the 1970s and I copied it. I've made rubber ones that work with STI shifters, and other designs for other lever types. Is the "wedge" adjustable in case you adjust the brakes or simply that the taper is long enough to take care of small variations in brake lever angle? Both the original showed to me and Blackburn's commercial version have steps, as visible in that image. In practice, there's enough flexibility in the brake system so I can squeeze until one of the steps is the right size to hold the brake firmly enough. When I copied the original, I made it out of 1/4" Plexiglass. A loop of fishing line let it hang from the exposed brake cables of the day. Blackburn's was a little fancier in that its big end sort of snaps onto the cable housing for storage while riding. I've copied that concept on the more modern ones I've made. If things get to the point where the gizmo doesn't squeeze the brake hard enough, I use the brake adjuster to tighten things up a bit. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 19:53:48 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote: On 2/4/2019 6:46 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:41:04 -0500, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 2/4/2019 2:26 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Monday, February 4, 2019 at 11:28:16 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote: I don't bother to lock my bike at either place. Security is just a little wedge thing jammed into my brake lever, to hold my front brake on tightly. -- - Frank Krygowski "Lock it or lose it" is often touted hereabouts. There was a guy bicycling across Canada a couple of years ago. He was headed East from British Columbia and he stopped at a store in Montreal, Quebec. When he came out his bike and all his gear was gone. I don't know what happened after that. I loaned a friend of mine a very nice Fiori Modena 14 gears road bike. He phoned me new years eve to tell me that he stopped at a coffee shop and forgot to lock the bike. It was raining then. When he came out the bike was gone. All it takes is someone to see an unlocked bike and grab it. They usually only ride to near their destination and then dump it. Whatever, the chance of getting a stolen bike back these days is pretty slim. I hope your luck holds for you when you leave your bike unlocked. Heck even if you see someone stealing your bike when you're in a store, by the time you run out of the store your bike is long gone. I get groceries in two different towns. Both have made the top-10 list for "safest communities in Ohio," so I don't worry very much. But here's what I mean about the wedge thing: https://randalputnam.files.wordpress...13/05/sb-1.jpg I was using things like this long before Blackburn ever manufactured them. A guy at a bike rally showed his to me back in the 1970s and I copied it. I've made rubber ones that work with STI shifters, and other designs for other lever types. Is the "wedge" adjustable in case you adjust the brakes or simply that the taper is long enough to take care of small variations in brake lever angle? Both the original showed to me and Blackburn's commercial version have steps, as visible in that image. In practice, there's enough flexibility in the brake system so I can squeeze until one of the steps is the right size to hold the brake firmly enough. When I copied the original, I made it out of 1/4" Plexiglass. A loop of fishing line let it hang from the exposed brake cables of the day. Blackburn's was a little fancier in that its big end sort of snaps onto the cable housing for storage while riding. I've copied that concept on the more modern ones I've made. If things get to the point where the gizmo doesn't squeeze the brake hard enough, I use the brake adjuster to tighten things up a bit. Somewhere I've got some 1/2" thick rubber that I can cut a wedge out of. I'll try it. Thanks. -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:41:04 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote: For unfamiliar places and longer stops, I do use a cable lock, but even that is lightweight and home made. When I first moved here, I was paranoid about never leaving my bike unlocked. Nowadays, the only place I lock it is the library, which is noted as a place where a thief can find parked bicycles. Uh, I also lock it at doctor's offices. I did that a lot last year, but I'm hoping this series of steroids will last a couple of years like the last one. My dentist put in a bike rack just for me. A style that actually works, by good luck. -- Joy Beeson joy beeson at comcast dot net http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ |
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Am 30.01.2019 um 01:38 schrieb James:
I don't like having to start a car for a short trip I could easily make by bike.Â* While I was living in Brisbane I bought a Bob-Yak trailer, and with that I could tow at least 20 kg of groceries behind a mountain bike.Â* I also hitched it to the road bike a couple of times to go to shops much further away when there was something not very heavy to bring back. I would say my $5000 recumbent bike with a massively cool carbon tail box does not really qualify as a "grocery bike" even though it visits the superstore 1 mile away from home once a week (towing a child trailer when I need to get large quantities of shopping); occasionally I carry a laptop and change of clothing inside the tail box when using it as a 'commuter bike'. Yesterday the wife calls me at work "The drinking water in our city is potentially polluted; you can't buy bottled water in the stores any more". So on the way back from work I stop in a small town half way, buy 18l of bottled water and put it into my tail box together with the change of clothing. The laptop bag doesn't fit in any more so I have to hang it over my shoulder and have to hang it over my shoulder. So (even or especially) a sports recumbent can double up as an emergency grocery bike... |
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