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Shimano DA7800 RD question
I use a Shimnao Compact Crank 50/34 w/ 9 speed setup, 11-28 in rear. I'm
currently using a DA7700SS RD. I know the max. capacity of this derailleur is 27 and there is minor contact even with the B screw set in all the way and I even exchanged the B screw for another one with 1mm longer reach. Will going to the GS version of this Derailleur solve the problem, though I only hear the contact when I have the bike on my workstand, riding it never seems to be a problem. I believe the GS version also states 27T max. in rear but has a larger overall capacity. And yes at my age and weight and local steep hills the 34-28 is nice and needed. Thanks. |
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Shimano DA7800 RD question
On 22 Mar, 21:22, RS wrote:
I use a Shimnao Compact Crank 50/34 w/ 9 speed setup, 11-28 in rear. *I'm currently using a DA7700SS RD. *I know the max. capacity of this derailleur is 27 and there is minor contact even with the B screw set in all the way and I even exchanged the B screw for another one with 1mm longer reach. *Will going to the GS version of this Derailleur solve the problem, though I only hear the contact when I have the bike on my workstand, riding it never seems to be a problem. *I believe the GS version also states 27T max. in rear but has a larger overall capacity. And yes at my age and weight and local steep hills the 34-28 is nice and needed. *Thanks. Road derailler used to be classed as 26 when they did 28-32 dependingon wwhere in the dropout the axle was. With a 16 teeth difference up front your losing that extra clearance from the sprockets that you would normally have. A smaller difference up front should improve the action of the rear mech. TJ |
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Shimano DA7800 RD question
On Mar 22, 3:22*pm, RS wrote:
I use a Shimnao Compact Crank 50/34 w/ 9 speed setup, 11-28 in rear. *I'm currently using a DA7700SS RD. *I know the max. capacity of this derailleur is 27 and there is minor contact even with the B screw set in all the way and I even exchanged the B screw for another one with 1mm longer reach. *Will going to the GS version of this Derailleur solve the problem, though I only hear the contact when I have the bike on my workstand, riding it never seems to be a problem. *I believe the GS version also states 27T max. in rear but has a larger overall capacity. And yes at my age and weight and local steep hills the 34-28 is nice and needed. *Thanks. Are you sure the chain isn't too long? Try to gently go into big-big combo and see if the chain going thru te rear derailleur makes a 'steep' or shallow 'S'. If steep, may be able to take one link out. shimano rear derailleurs or the road max it at '27' cuz that's the biggest road cassette they sell. Actual 'limit' depends on other things including the crank ring ranges. |
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Shimano DA7800 RD question
On Mar 23, 11:16*am, RS wrote:
In article 8c2ac0c1-3c77-4ff1-ae14- , says... On Mar 22, 3:22*pm, RS wrote: I use a Shimnao Compact Crank 50/34 w/ 9 speed setup, 11-28 in rear. *I'm currently using a DA7700SS RD. *I know the max. capacity of this derailleur is 27 and there is minor contact even with the B screw set in all the way and I even exchanged the B screw for another one with 1mm longer reach. *Will going to the GS version of this Derailleur solve the problem, though I only hear the contact when I have the bike on my workstand, riding it never seems to be a problem. *I believe the GS version also states 27T max.. in rear but has a larger overall capacity. And yes at my age and weight and local steep hills the 34-28 is nice and needed. *Thanks. Are you sure the chain isn't too long? Try to gently go into big-big combo and see if the chain going thru te rear derailleur makes a 'steep' or shallow 'S'. If steep, may be able to take one link out. shimano rear derailleurs or the road max it at '27' cuz that's the biggest road cassette they sell. Actual 'limit' depends on other things including the crank ring ranges. I'll check chain length though believe I have it set properly for the wide range I"m using. *I use big-big often. *Thanks. If you can remove one link and still get big-big w/o hurting anything, that will rotate the upper pulley away from the biggest cog, eliminating the rub. |
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Shimano DA7800 RD question
In article 72481d88-a31b-4cbe-a4ec-
, says... On Mar 22, 4:22*pm, RS wrote: I use a Shimnao Compact Crank 50/34 w/ 9 speed setup, 11-28 in rear. *I'm currently using a DA7700SS RD. *I know the max. capacity of this derailleur is 27 and there is minor contact even with the B screw set in all the way and I even exchanged the B screw for another one with 1mm longer reach. *Will going to the GS version of this Derailleur solve the problem, though I only hear the contact when I have the bike on my workstand, riding it never seems to be a problem. *I believe the GS version also states 27T max. in rear but has a larger overall capacity. And yes at my age and weight and local steep hills the 34-28 is nice and needed. *Thanks. I put a B screw with about 4 mm greater length in a 7700GS RD and it was used with a 50/34 and 11-32 10s rear cassette (IRD, not ShimaNO). Works like a champ, shifts perfectly. I would suspect that you could do the same with the 7700SS. As a side note, I used the same setup (50/34 with 11-32 cassette) with campy gear and the rear der (Centaur long cage) worked fine without touching the B screw or having to severely reduce the chain length to get the top jockey wheel to clear the cassette. Reason #764 why campy road gear is the clear choice for road use. D'ohBoy With a longer B screw screwed out the angle of the 7700 SS becomes too horizontal and won't hit the stop on my frame. But I'll revisit that solution, possible I can get another millimeter or two out of it which may just do it. |
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Shimano DA7800 RD question
On Mar 25, 12:22*pm, RS wrote:
In article 72481d88-a31b-4cbe-a4ec- , says... On Mar 22, 4:22*pm, RS wrote: I use a Shimnao Compact Crank 50/34 w/ 9 speed setup, 11-28 in rear. *I'm currently using a DA7700SS RD. *I know the max. capacity of this derailleur is 27 and there is minor contact even with the B screw set in all the way and I even exchanged the B screw for another one with 1mm longer reach. *Will going to the GS version of this Derailleur solve the problem, though I only hear the contact when I have the bike on my workstand, riding it never seems to be a problem. *I believe the GS version also states 27T max.. in rear but has a larger overall capacity. And yes at my age and weight and local steep hills the 34-28 is nice and needed. *Thanks. I put a B screw with about 4 mm greater length in a 7700GS RD and it was used with a 50/34 and 11-32 10s rear cassette (IRD, not ShimaNO). Works like a champ, shifts perfectly. *I would suspect that you could do the same with the 7700SS. As a side note, I used the same setup (50/34 with 11-32 cassette) with campy gear and the rear der (Centaur long cage) worked fine without touching the B screw or having to severely reduce the chain length to get the top jockey wheel to clear the cassette. Reason #764 why campy road gear is the clear choice for road use. D'ohBoy With a longer B screw screwed out the angle of the 7700 SS becomes too horizontal and won't hit the stop on my frame. *But I'll revisit that solution, possible I can get another millimeter or two out of it which may just do it. Sorry - that was a 7800GS Rder i did that with. But the geometry and cage are the same. D'ohBoy |
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Shimano DA7800 RD question
In article 25c76e6e-b9dd-46dd-8839-
, says... On Mar 25, 12:22*pm, RS wrote: In article 72481d88-a31b-4cbe-a4ec- , says... On Mar 22, 4:22*pm, RS wrote: I use a Shimnao Compact Crank 50/34 w/ 9 speed setup, 11-28 in rear. *I'm currently using a DA7700SS RD. *I know the max. capacity of this derailleur is 27 and there is minor contact even with the B screw set in all the way and I even exchanged the B screw for another one with 1mm longer reach. *Will going to the GS version of this Derailleur solve the problem, though I only hear the contact when I have the bike on my workstand, riding it never seems to be a problem. *I believe the GS version also states 27T max. in rear but has a larger overall capacity. And yes at my age and weight and local steep hills the 34-28 is nice and needed. *Thanks. I put a B screw with about 4 mm greater length in a 7700GS RD and it was used with a 50/34 and 11-32 10s rear cassette (IRD, not ShimaNO). Works like a champ, shifts perfectly. *I would suspect that you could do the same with the 7700SS. As a side note, I used the same setup (50/34 with 11-32 cassette) with campy gear and the rear der (Centaur long cage) worked fine without touching the B screw or having to severely reduce the chain length to get the top jockey wheel to clear the cassette. Reason #764 why campy road gear is the clear choice for road use. D'ohBoy With a longer B screw screwed out the angle of the 7700 SS becomes too horizontal and won't hit the stop on my frame. *But I'll revisit that solution, possible I can get another millimeter or two out of it which may just do it. Sorry - that was a 7800GS Rder i did that with. But the geometry and cage are the same. D'ohBoy OK, thanks. The Longer cage of the GS probably makes a difference. I have another bike with an Ultegra RD6500GS and it works fine in an 8- speed setup with a 50/34 crank and 11-28 in back. Guess I'm stuck on the 50-11 high to the 34-28 low, seems to suit all situations. 50-12 just isn't high enough but I will admit to occasionally wishing I had a bail-out 34-30 |
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Shimano DA7800 RD question
On 26 Mar, 00:39, RS wrote:
In article 25c76e6e-b9dd-46dd-8839- , says... On Mar 25, 12:22*pm, RS wrote: In article 72481d88-a31b-4cbe-a4ec- , says... On Mar 22, 4:22*pm, RS wrote: I use a Shimnao Compact Crank 50/34 w/ 9 speed setup, 11-28 in rear. *I'm currently using a DA7700SS RD. *I know the max. capacity of this derailleur is 27 and there is minor contact even with the B screw set in all the way and I even exchanged the B screw for another one with 1mm longer reach. *Will going to the GS version of this Derailleur solve the problem, though I only hear the contact when I have the bike on my workstand, riding it never seems to be a problem. *I believe the GS version also states 27T max. in rear but has a larger overall capacity. And yes at my age and weight and local steep hills the 34-28 is nice and needed. *Thanks. I put a B screw with about 4 mm greater length in a 7700GS RD and it was used with a 50/34 and 11-32 10s rear cassette (IRD, not ShimaNO). Works like a champ, shifts perfectly. *I would suspect that you could do the same with the 7700SS. As a side note, I used the same setup (50/34 with 11-32 cassette) with campy gear and the rear der (Centaur long cage) worked fine without touching the B screw or having to severely reduce the chain length to get the top jockey wheel to clear the cassette. Reason #764 why campy road gear is the clear choice for road use. D'ohBoy With a longer B screw screwed out the angle of the 7700 SS becomes too horizontal and won't hit the stop on my frame. *But I'll revisit that solution, possible I can get another millimeter or two out of it which may just do it. Sorry - that was a 7800GS Rder i did that with. *But the geometry and cage are the same. D'ohBoy OK, thanks. *The Longer cage of the GS probably makes a difference. *I have another bike with an Ultegra RD6500GS and it works fine in an 8- speed setup with a 50/34 crank and 11-28 in back. *Guess I'm stuck on the 50-11 high to the 34-28 low, seems to suit all situations. *50-12 just isn't high enough but I will admit to occasionally wishing I had a bail-out 34-30 If there is no other way, grind the tips off a 34, it's not as if you willl be using it often, plus the wear rate of a large sprocket is much much slower than say a sprocket half its size. If you think wear would be a problem with this large sprocket, use an older, thicker sprocket with the tips ground off. TJ |
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Shimano DA7800 RD question
On Mar 26, 12:29*pm, Nick L Plate wrote:
On 26 Mar, 00:39, RS wrote: In article 25c76e6e-b9dd-46dd-8839- , says... On Mar 25, 12:22*pm, RS wrote: In article 72481d88-a31b-4cbe-a4ec- , says... On Mar 22, 4:22*pm, RS wrote: I use a Shimnao Compact Crank 50/34 w/ 9 speed setup, 11-28 in rear. *I'm currently using a DA7700SS RD. *I know the max. capacity of this derailleur is 27 and there is minor contact even with the B screw set in all the way and I even exchanged the B screw for another one with 1mm longer reach. *Will going to the GS version of this Derailleur solve the problem, though I only hear the contact when I have the bike on my workstand, riding it never seems to be a problem. *I believe the GS version also states 27T max. in rear but has a larger overall capacity. And yes at my age and weight and local steep hills the 34-28 is nice and needed. *Thanks. I put a B screw with about 4 mm greater length in a 7700GS RD and it was used with a 50/34 and 11-32 10s rear cassette (IRD, not ShimaNO). Works like a champ, shifts perfectly. *I would suspect that you could do the same with the 7700SS. As a side note, I used the same setup (50/34 with 11-32 cassette) with campy gear and the rear der (Centaur long cage) worked fine without touching the B screw or having to severely reduce the chain length to get the top jockey wheel to clear the cassette. Reason #764 why campy road gear is the clear choice for road use. D'ohBoy With a longer B screw screwed out the angle of the 7700 SS becomes too horizontal and won't hit the stop on my frame. *But I'll revisit that solution, possible I can get another millimeter or two out of it which may just do it. Sorry - that was a 7800GS Rder i did that with. *But the geometry and cage are the same. D'ohBoy OK, thanks. *The Longer cage of the GS probably makes a difference. *I have another bike with an Ultegra RD6500GS and it works fine in an 8- speed setup with a 50/34 crank and 11-28 in back. *Guess I'm stuck on the 50-11 high to the 34-28 low, seems to suit all situations. *50-12 just isn't high enough but I will admit to occasionally wishing I had a bail-out 34-30 If there is no other way, grind the tips off a 34, it's not as if you willl be using it often, *plus the wear rate of a large sprocket is much much slower than say a sprocket half its size. *If you think wear would be a problem with this large sprocket, use an older, thicker sprocket with the tips ground off. TJ Do you understand bicycles at all? Grind the teeth off the cog so the upper pulley doesn't hit it? YGBSM. How about making the chain the right length or a longer b limit screw, instead of asking for a chain slip, while going up hill, to take one's front teeth out. |
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