Do dead cyclists go to Heaven or Hell?

(This is not a purely metaphysical question, since it can happen to
anyone riding a bike. I don't know who goes where, but my best guess
is that the moral go to a different place than the immoral. And nobody
rents donkeys where I live.)

From Dave Zabriskie's diary on Bicycling's website
http://www.bicycling.com/tourdefranc...4913-1,00.html
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I was talking with Tom. I swear for every one million Tom Boonen fans there
must be at least one Dave Zabriskie fan...and I made sure that I pointed
each one out to him yesterday. Yes, I was really appreciating the fans, they
really helped me get through on a day like that.

But then Boonen comes up with this line. He says, "See those cows over
there? That's what happens when cyclist's die. They turn into cows."
=====================

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com


"donquijote1954" wrote in message
...
(This is not a purely metaphysical question, since it can happen to
anyone riding a bike. I don't know who goes where, but my best guess
is that the moral go to a different place than the immoral. And nobody
rents donkeys where I live.)


On Dec 30, 9:08 pm, Immortalist wrote:
On Dec 30, 2:48 pm, donquijote1954
wrote:


A SYSTEM THAT GIVES YOU THE FREEDOM TO CHOOSE AMONG 25 MODELS OF SUVs,
BUT NOT THE FREEDOM TO RIDE A BIKE, CANNOT POSSIBLY BE CALLED
"DEMOCRATIC" OR "CHRISTIAN." POLLUTING MUST BE A SIN. And, besides,
JESUS RODE A DONKEY.

The Revolution Will Not be Motorized
by Robin Buckallew
So you say you want a revolution? Well, we all want to change the
world. So what? Quit bitching and moaning, quit bellyaching, and get
off your duff. There is no way to change the world by sitting on your
ass in an air conditioned room, even if you listen to nothing but
early Dylan and read nothing but Hunter Thompson. You can't change the
world unless you change yourself first. As Gandhi used to say, "Be the
change you want to see in the
world".http://www.faulkingtruth.com/Article...ning/1054.html

*WORLDWIDE CAMPAIGN TO TAKE THE LANE*
Yes, why not. If we are some more than a nuisance to drivers, then we
too belong in the lane, the middle of the lane that is, since we can't
be happy with the scraps of riding in the gutter, and then be
terrorized there too, like when the bigger vehicle blows the horn with
the same intention the lion uses his roar: INTIMIDATION. As if their
mere presence wasn't enough to send everybody running.

Well, no more. BICYCLES BELONG TOO. Don't let fear make you miss a
healthy, fun and moral lifestyle. EVOLUTION IS PART OF LIFE. DINOSAURS
ARE A THING OF THE PAST! The Jungle may never be the same...

'RIDING A BIKE COSTS PEANUTS'http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote88

'WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE'http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote

When things get tense, ride on the sidewalk. Otherwise, stradle the
line and they will more likely go around since, the perception of a
need to go around is not tangled with conception of unfairness. The
closer to the line the less they think your trying to hog the lane.
Some people sew the city or county if there is not enough space.

You never know when things get tense since it only takes an oversized
SUV with a driver distracted on the phone to send you to he...

HEY, DO DEAD CYCLISTS GO TO HEAVEN OR HELL?

Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
From Dave Zabriskie's diary on Bicycling's website
http://www.bicycling.com/tourdefranc...4913-1,00.html
=====================
I was talking with Tom. I swear for every one million Tom Boonen fans there
must be at least one Dave Zabriskie fan...and I made sure that I pointed
each one out to him yesterday. Yes, I was really appreciating the fans, they
really helped me get through on a day like that.

But then Boonen comes up with this line. He says, "See those cows over
there? That's what happens when cyclist's die. They turn into cows."
=====================

I dunno. Look at the manure in rec.bikes.* and you'd think they've
already turned into cows.

Ron Wallenfang wrote:
On Dec 31 2007, 11:03 am, donquijote1954
wrote:

"you know what Christian Republicans prefer to drive..."

TREK 520s

That is hardly the norm for Washington County.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
POST FREE OR DIE!

Ron Wallenfang wrote:
On Jan 1, 1:44 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:
Ron Wallenfang wrote:
On Dec 31 2007, 11:03 am, donquijote1954
wrote:
"you know what Christian Republicans prefer to drive..."
TREK 520s
That is hardly the norm for Washington County.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
POST FREE OR DIE!

1. Agreed. I stated my preference as an attack on the stereotype
that Republicans are gas-guzzlers and Democrats are not.

I saw a BMW X5 SUV with an "Impeach Bush" sticker on southbound I-43,
but it may have been driven by a libertarian.

2. There's not enough serious year-round bicycle riders in WI to be
characteristic of any group, other than of bike riders themselves.
Months like December just past are brutal enough to insure that there
will never be more than a %age handful of year round bike commuters.

The only place I see a lot of commuters is downtown. There are mostly
club, racer in training and exercise cyclists in places like Fox Point,
River Hills, The Falls and Mequon. A few brave (considering how people
drive) cyclists are seen in the 'hood.

3. You could name and characterize my home County but I sure can't
name yours. Where is Holstein -Friesland Bovinia? In WI, there is a
New Holstein but no Holstein that I'm aware of. There's a Friesland
in Columbia county, maybe 100 or so miles from New Holstein. I'm
aware of no Bovinia at all. I can't make heads or tails of the name
you gave.

The "Holstein-Friesland Bovinia" is a joke based on the rural scenery in
the southern part of the state being predominated by pastures with black
and white dairy cows. I currently live in the Milwaukee area, but have
also lived in Madison and the SW "driftless area".

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
POST FREE OR DIE!

Tom Sherman writes:

I saw a BMW X5 SUV with an "Impeach Bush" sticker on southbound I-43,
but it may have been driven by a libertarian.

Or merely a fiscal conservative - look at the deficit and the value of
the dollar compared to other currencies. Under Bush, the U.S. has gone
down the tubes.

--
My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

donquijote1954 schrieb:
On Dec 31, 12:10 pm, OldMan wrote:
On Dec 31, 9:00 am, donquijote1954
wrote:

Maybe it's because you live in a blue state, but I live in a red
state, and you know what Christian Republicans prefer to drive...
I do live in a blue state but am a Christian Republican myself. And
if I have to drive, I prefer my 16 year old Dakota pickup that gets 23
MPG.


The blue state predominates over your party affiliation and driving
choices. It's like having Republicans in Key West (a blue town), where
biking still is practiced.

Someone in a German cycling newsgroup recently asked whether cycling is
allowed on the Overseas Highway. Is it?

donquijote1954 schrieb:
Someone in a German cycling newsgroup recently asked whether cycling is
allowed on the Overseas Highway. Is it?

No such thing as Overseas Highway that I know of,

Hmm?

I am talking of Route 1.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_Highway

"The Overseas Highway is a 127.5-mile (205.2 km) long road carrying U.S.
Route 1 through the Florida Keys. "

but the road to Key
West is hardly rideable, since the bikepath is broken at many points.

So what?

You don't need a "bike path" to cycle.

I asked whether there are any legal traffic restrictions for bicycles.

From Homestead to Key Largo is deadly with no bikepath whatsover.

Ah yes, the story with the incompetent American drivers again ...


It's
a pity because the scenery is real pretty.

So it should be a nice trip for a bike marathon - if you are
well-trained, you can make it in two days (one there and one back again).

donquijote1954 schrieb:
On Jan 1, 8:25 pm, Father Haskell wrote:

But the way things stand now, you are on your own before a monster
with many heads. In other words, nobody cares about cyclists.

Never gotten that impression. The GREAT majority of drivers
might show impatience, but none want to see a cyclist
harmed (or killed) just for slowing down traffic for five seconds.

That statement amounts to "most drivers don't drive drunk," and then
getting consolation from it.

Well, I suppose in the US you _will_ go to jail for killing someone by
driving drunk.

In Bavaria, you get parole and can get Minister of Transportation
afterwards ...


Well, it only takes one reckless driver with a wide track SUV to wipe
you out. And, as proven by "Myth Busters," talking on the phone is
worst than driving drunk.

That's why it is forbidden in most countries ...

In article , usenet-11-2007
@tessarakt.de says...
donquijote1954 schrieb:
On Jan 1, 8:25 pm, Father Haskell wrote:

But the way things stand now, you are on your own before a monster
with many heads. In other words, nobody cares about cyclists.

Never gotten that impression. The GREAT majority of drivers
might show impatience, but none want to see a cyclist
harmed (or killed) just for slowing down traffic for five seconds.

That statement amounts to "most drivers don't drive drunk," and then
getting consolation from it.

Well, I suppose in the US you _will_ go to jail for killing someone by
driving drunk.

In Bavaria, you get parole and can get Minister of Transportation
afterwards ...

In the US, you become a Senator afterwards...


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donquijote1954 schrieb:

but the road to Key
West is hardly rideable, since the bikepath is broken at many points.
So what?

You don't need a "bike path" to cycle.

OK, here it goes, now you can a "virtual bicycle ride"...

(Notice there's a bike path in the beginning, then it disappears.
Notice also there are many SUVs and no bikes.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrWzMmeqtl4

55 mph speed limit in urban areas? That's insane!

Apart from that, I've driven on roads with separated carriageways and
2-3 lanes per direction and a speed limit of 100 km/h (or is it even 130
km/h? I'd have to look ...) before, no problem ...

Well, the inner-city S.S. in Trento, Italy with a speed limit of 70
km/h, heavy truck traffic and an interrupted side lane was a bit
annonying, but I would not call it dangerous.

Btw, the road _does_ look nice!