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On Thursday, October 19, 2017 at 7:01:46 PM UTC+1, Doug Landau wrote:
On Saturday, October 14, 2017 at 9:15:46 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote: On Monday, October 9, 2017 at 7:33:39 PM UTC+1, wrote: Are you guys old enough to remember Paul Dudley White, M.D., the eminent cardiologist and father of preventive cardiology through exercise? Really cool guy who served as Eisenhower's and LBJ's cardiologist. He believed in cycling, but he thought pushing a big gear was a better than spinning. Oh well, every guy is entitled to one mistake, right? I don't remember Dr White, but I remember Jim Fixx, the prophet of jogging. I went off him when I discovered that his idea of a gourmet meal was a hamburger. He died at 52 while out jogging. Not exactly a recommendation. What age did his dad reach? Good question, Doug. These things do run in families. Andre Jute Scenes from a Bizarre Life -- title of my forthcoming (sometime) memoirs |
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On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 12:06:57 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)"
wrote: Per John B.: As I told Joerg, just wash your feet :-) I don't buy it when it comes to carpets. Bare floors, maybe... but feet will still be damp after "Washing" and that will affect the carpet over time. Quotes because I strongly suspect "Washing" = "Quick rinse with clear room-temperature water". Well, if you have polished mahogany floors, or terrazzo, floors in your abode and you wash your feet before you enter you won't have problems with your carpet. Carpets also add to the servants work load with all that vacuuming and frequent visits by the carpet cleaning company. They will applaud you when you get rid of them. -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 09:57:27 -0700, Joerg
wrote: On 2017-10-18 23:40, John B. wrote: On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 07:39:00 +0700, John B. wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 07:57:02 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-17 20:52, John B. wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 07:47:55 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-16 18:59, John B. wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:52:51 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-16 04:16, John B. wrote: On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 10:02:00 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-09 21:09, Tim McNamara wrote: [...] And a walk is inexpensive. Not really when seen per mile. I walk about two miles every day so that's around 700mi/year. A pair of $30 sports shoes wears out within a year so 4c/mile. I get more than that out of a road bike rear tire. Sandals don't wear out that fast for whatever reason but can't be used much in winter. Get rid of the shoes. The feet are self healing and will grow to accommodate even black top pavement. I would add, before you start you say it is impossible, that Zola Budd set the world 5,000 metre record running barefoot. Her mile best of 4:17.57 in 1985, still stands as the British record. Barefooted. Oh, I could, since I already walk and bicycle with sandals all summer long. Problem is, without any shoes one carries the dirt into the house because you can't switch feet at the entrance door, and that will make the missus grumpy (rightfully so). Especially when coming back from a dirt trail. How primitive. The Thais, who were essentially shoeless in years gone by solved the problem by placed a tub of water outside the door and washed their feet before going in the house. So the foot fungus from the first person is spread to all the others? Foot fungus is very rare in places where people don't wear shoes :-) Nope. People walking barefoot in places where others do so as well are the ones getting infected. The risk is usually highest in wet areas. This is one of the reasons the US miltary encourages soldiers to wear "shower shoes" when taking a shower. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15864252 Do some more reading. Candida is a strain of fungus that can cause an infection in your skin, among other locations. In normal conditions, your skin may host small amounts of this fungus. Problems arise when it begins to multiply and creates an overgrowth... The overriding conditions that encourage fungus growth is "The fungus thrives in warm, moist, and sweaty conditions." But those canny Thais don't wash their feet in the common tub. what they do is dip some clean water out of the tub and slosh it over their feet to get them clean. That's going to help a whole lot when someone has just stepped into a blob of gooey sap from a pine tree. When I come home from MTB rides I often have that under my shoes. Since they get swapped in the garage, no problem. Strange that it doesn't seem to be a problem in actual practice isn't it? Or, at least in all the years that I've lived in Asia I've never seen it be a problem. But more to the point I grew up in New England where the pine tree was, perhaps, the most common tree and unless you actually climbed a pine tree we never got any sap on your feet. It doesn't just drip off the trees to cover the ground. But maybe California pine trees are different. Addendum: I came across this today. Apparently California is different :-) http://www.ehow.com/info_8691222_sti...e-needles.html Pine needles may also be covered in a sticky substance caused by disease and infestation, such as aphids, which are attracted to pine trees. According to the University of California's Department of Agriculture and Natural Resources, "Aphids are small, soft-bodied insects with long, slender mouth parts that they use to pierce stems, leaves, and other tender plant parts and suck out plant fluids." In addition to causing openings in pine trees which may cause sap to leak, the aphids themselves emit a sticky substance called honeydew. I came home from a long singletrack ride yesterday. The last couple of miles are on asphalt and both tires emitted the usual lip-smacking sounds. Had to stop before the garage, whip out the trusty old Swiss Army knife and scrape the pine sap blobs out of the knobbies. Just another normal day in paradise. When helping another MTB rider fix a flat the drill here is to never just grab a wheel with both hands without looking first. Goat's head thorns are the main reason but also sap. Some kinds of sap won't come off the skin with just soap and water. Hmmm.... immigrate. No sticky pine globs of goat head thorns in many parts of the world :-) -- Cheers, John B. |
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Per Andre Jute:
I went off him when I discovered that his idea of a gourmet meal was a hamburger. He died at 52 while out jogging. Not exactly a recommendation. I cannot cite, but my recollection is that he was afflicted with genetically-induced high cholesterol ("Familial Hypercholesterolemia"). My brother had it, didn't quite make it to 45. My impression was - at least back then - that, if you've got it, you're dead meat. -- Pete Cresswell |
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On 2017-10-20 00:26, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 09:57:27 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-18 23:40, John B. wrote: On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 07:39:00 +0700, John B. wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 07:57:02 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-17 20:52, John B. wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 07:47:55 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-16 18:59, John B. wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:52:51 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-16 04:16, John B. wrote: On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 10:02:00 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-09 21:09, Tim McNamara wrote: [...] And a walk is inexpensive. Not really when seen per mile. I walk about two miles every day so that's around 700mi/year. A pair of $30 sports shoes wears out within a year so 4c/mile. I get more than that out of a road bike rear tire. Sandals don't wear out that fast for whatever reason but can't be used much in winter. Get rid of the shoes. The feet are self healing and will grow to accommodate even black top pavement. I would add, before you start you say it is impossible, that Zola Budd set the world 5,000 metre record running barefoot. Her mile best of 4:17.57 in 1985, still stands as the British record. Barefooted. Oh, I could, since I already walk and bicycle with sandals all summer long. Problem is, without any shoes one carries the dirt into the house because you can't switch feet at the entrance door, and that will make the missus grumpy (rightfully so). Especially when coming back from a dirt trail. How primitive. The Thais, who were essentially shoeless in years gone by solved the problem by placed a tub of water outside the door and washed their feet before going in the house. So the foot fungus from the first person is spread to all the others? Foot fungus is very rare in places where people don't wear shoes :-) Nope. People walking barefoot in places where others do so as well are the ones getting infected. The risk is usually highest in wet areas. This is one of the reasons the US miltary encourages soldiers to wear "shower shoes" when taking a shower. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15864252 Do some more reading. Candida is a strain of fungus that can cause an infection in your skin, among other locations. In normal conditions, your skin may host small amounts of this fungus. Problems arise when it begins to multiply and creates an overgrowth... The overriding conditions that encourage fungus growth is "The fungus thrives in warm, moist, and sweaty conditions." But those canny Thais don't wash their feet in the common tub. what they do is dip some clean water out of the tub and slosh it over their feet to get them clean. That's going to help a whole lot when someone has just stepped into a blob of gooey sap from a pine tree. When I come home from MTB rides I often have that under my shoes. Since they get swapped in the garage, no problem. Strange that it doesn't seem to be a problem in actual practice isn't it? Or, at least in all the years that I've lived in Asia I've never seen it be a problem. But more to the point I grew up in New England where the pine tree was, perhaps, the most common tree and unless you actually climbed a pine tree we never got any sap on your feet. It doesn't just drip off the trees to cover the ground. But maybe California pine trees are different. Addendum: I came across this today. Apparently California is different :-) http://www.ehow.com/info_8691222_sti...e-needles.html Pine needles may also be covered in a sticky substance caused by disease and infestation, such as aphids, which are attracted to pine trees. According to the University of California's Department of Agriculture and Natural Resources, "Aphids are small, soft-bodied insects with long, slender mouth parts that they use to pierce stems, leaves, and other tender plant parts and suck out plant fluids." In addition to causing openings in pine trees which may cause sap to leak, the aphids themselves emit a sticky substance called honeydew. I came home from a long singletrack ride yesterday. The last couple of miles are on asphalt and both tires emitted the usual lip-smacking sounds. Had to stop before the garage, whip out the trusty old Swiss Army knife and scrape the pine sap blobs out of the knobbies. Just another normal day in paradise. When helping another MTB rider fix a flat the drill here is to never just grab a wheel with both hands without looking first. Goat's head thorns are the main reason but also sap. Some kinds of sap won't come off the skin with just soap and water. Hmmm.... immigrate. BTDT. There is always some hair in the soup, everywhere. ... No sticky pine globs of goat head thorns in many parts of the world :-) However, only four snakes in the US are poisonous. Then you move to places like Australia and no goat's head thorns but just about every snake is poisonous. Or you move to the Caribbean where there is no winter but then cloud come up and suddenly you bike route looks like this: https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset...70_nou pscale -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On 10/20/2017 9:38 AM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Andre Jute: I went off him when I discovered that his idea of a gourmet meal was a hamburger. He died at 52 while out jogging. Not exactly a recommendation. I cannot cite, but my recollection is that he was afflicted with genetically-induced high cholesterol ("Familial Hypercholesterolemia"). My brother had it, didn't quite make it to 45. My impression was - at least back then - that, if you've got it, you're dead meat. The phrase 'dead meat' always reminds me of Adele Davis. Fatally smug. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On 10/20/2017 9:49 AM, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-10-20 00:26, John B. wrote: On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 09:57:27 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-18 23:40, John B. wrote: On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 07:39:00 +0700, John B. wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 07:57:02 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-17 20:52, John B. wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 07:47:55 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-16 18:59, John B. wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:52:51 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-16 04:16, John B. wrote: On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 10:02:00 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-09 21:09, Tim McNamara wrote: [...] And a walk is inexpensive. Not really when seen per mile. I walk about two miles every day so that's around 700mi/year. A pair of $30 sports shoes wears out within a year so 4c/mile. I get more than that out of a road bike rear tire. Sandals don't wear out that fast for whatever reason but can't be used much in winter. Get rid of the shoes. The feet are self healing and will grow to accommodate even black top pavement. I would add, before you start you say it is impossible, that Zola Budd set the world 5,000 metre record running barefoot. Her mile best of 4:17.57 in 1985, still stands as the British record. Barefooted. Oh, I could, since I already walk and bicycle with sandals all summer long. Problem is, without any shoes one carries the dirt into the house because you can't switch feet at the entrance door, and that will make the missus grumpy (rightfully so). Especially when coming back from a dirt trail. How primitive. The Thais, who were essentially shoeless in years gone by solved the problem by placed a tub of water outside the door and washed their feet before going in the house. So the foot fungus from the first person is spread to all the others? Foot fungus is very rare in places where people don't wear shoes :-) Nope. People walking barefoot in places where others do so as well are the ones getting infected. The risk is usually highest in wet areas. This is one of the reasons the US miltary encourages soldiers to wear "shower shoes" when taking a shower. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15864252 Do some more reading. Candida is a strain of fungus that can cause an infection in your skin, among other locations. In normal conditions, your skin may host small amounts of this fungus. Problems arise when it begins to multiply and creates an overgrowth... The overriding conditions that encourage fungus growth is "The fungus thrives in warm, moist, and sweaty conditions." But those canny Thais don't wash their feet in the common tub. what they do is dip some clean water out of the tub and slosh it over their feet to get them clean. That's going to help a whole lot when someone has just stepped into a blob of gooey sap from a pine tree. When I come home from MTB rides I often have that under my shoes. Since they get swapped in the garage, no problem. Strange that it doesn't seem to be a problem in actual practice isn't it? Or, at least in all the years that I've lived in Asia I've never seen it be a problem. But more to the point I grew up in New England where the pine tree was, perhaps, the most common tree and unless you actually climbed a pine tree we never got any sap on your feet. It doesn't just drip off the trees to cover the ground. But maybe California pine trees are different. Addendum: I came across this today. Apparently California is different :-) http://www.ehow.com/info_8691222_sti...e-needles.html Pine needles may also be covered in a sticky substance caused by disease and infestation, such as aphids, which are attracted to pine trees. According to the University of California's Department of Agriculture and Natural Resources, "Aphids are small, soft-bodied insects with long, slender mouth parts that they use to pierce stems, leaves, and other tender plant parts and suck out plant fluids." In addition to causing openings in pine trees which may cause sap to leak, the aphids themselves emit a sticky substance called honeydew. I came home from a long singletrack ride yesterday. The last couple of miles are on asphalt and both tires emitted the usual lip-smacking sounds. Had to stop before the garage, whip out the trusty old Swiss Army knife and scrape the pine sap blobs out of the knobbies. Just another normal day in paradise. When helping another MTB rider fix a flat the drill here is to never just grab a wheel with both hands without looking first. Goat's head thorns are the main reason but also sap. Some kinds of sap won't come off the skin with just soap and water. Hmmm.... immigrate. BTDT. There is always some hair in the soup, everywhere. ... No sticky pine globs of goat head thorns in many parts of the world :-) However, only four snakes in the US are poisonous. Then you move to places like Australia and no goat's head thorns but just about every snake is poisonous. Or you move to the Caribbean where there is no winter but then cloud come up and suddenly you bike route looks like this: https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset...70_nou pscale 'only four' sounds so benign and distant. Unless your girlfriend's land is bordered by rocky hills where these guys hang out in the sun: http://dnr.wi.gov/topic/EndangeredRe...ode=ARADE02040 Somebody named it 'horridus' for a reason. (I'm not discounting Australia's famous killer fauna) -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On Friday, October 20, 2017 at 12:23:57 AM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 12:06:57 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)" wrote: Per John B.: As I told Joerg, just wash your feet :-) I don't buy it when it comes to carpets. Bare floors, maybe... but feet will still be damp after "Washing" and that will affect the carpet over time. Quotes because I strongly suspect "Washing" = "Quick rinse with clear room-temperature water". Well, if you have polished mahogany floors, or terrazzo, floors in your abode and you wash your feet before you enter you won't have problems with your carpet. Carpets also add to the servants work load with all that vacuuming and frequent visits by the carpet cleaning company. They will applaud you when you get rid of them. I have come to the conclusion that hardwood floors with area rugs are much better than wall to wall carpets. These wall to wall crap accumulators are nothing but trouble and for no added comfort. |
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On Friday, October 20, 2017 at 7:51:43 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 10/20/2017 9:38 AM, (PeteCresswell) wrote: Per Andre Jute: I went off him when I discovered that his idea of a gourmet meal was a hamburger. He died at 52 while out jogging. Not exactly a recommendation. I cannot cite, but my recollection is that he was afflicted with genetically-induced high cholesterol ("Familial Hypercholesterolemia"). My brother had it, didn't quite make it to 45. My impression was - at least back then - that, if you've got it, you're dead meat. The phrase 'dead meat' always reminds me of Adele Davis. Fatally smug. Well, she did live to 70 which was pretty good for a woman born in 1904. |
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