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Bike in shopping centre
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I went for a ride around Wigan today[1]; upon getting back and trying to get back to the car park I walked my bike through the new shopping mall they have there. I was approached by a member of the security/centre personnel who politely informed me that there was a 'no cycles' policy in the centre. I replied that I was aware that riding bikes was banned (I wasn't actually but it's logical) but he told me that this also extended to pushing bikes, too. I asked him what the nearest exit was, therefore, and how to get to the car park not through the centre, which I think flummoxed him slightly, but we worked out a way back. To reiterate, he was polite about it (possibly because I was too) but I did wonder about the logic of banning bikes completely in the place. On the way out I spotted on the doors "No cycles, skateboards, something else or heelys" under the "No dogs (except guide dogs)" bit but even so I think I'd still have interpreted it as "No bikes to be ridden" rather than "No bikes to be walked". It seems a bit daft to me. Also, while I'm here, is anyone from Wigan around? The gates and barriers on the Leeds/Liverpool canal as it rises up the 21 locks from Wigan pier are horrible - they're supposed to allow you to push your bike through but in practice snarl your gears and pannier and it's easier to walk the bike through the pedestrian bit on its back wheel or lift it over instead. Totally horrible (but then I hate these sort of things anyway)... at least near the Top Lock they changed style to the more familiar 'pinch point' bike passageway which are miles better (for me, anyway). Anyway, I'll go back to being quiet again... Peter (a relative lurker) [1] a pleasant 15m ride, ride report will appear below later (with two from a couple fo weeks ago too hopefully!). -- http://www.scandrett.net/lx/ http://www.scandrett.net/bike/ |
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Peter Scandrett wrote:
Hi I went for a ride around Wigan today[1]; upon getting back and trying to get back to the car park I walked my bike through the new shopping mall they have there. I was approached by a member of the security/centre personnel who politely informed me that there was a 'no cycles' policy in the centre. I replied that I was aware that riding bikes was banned (I wasn't actually but it's logical) but he told me that this also extended to pushing bikes, too. I asked him what the nearest exit was, therefore, and how to get to the car park not through the centre, which I think flummoxed him slightly, but we worked out a way back. To reiterate, he was polite about it (possibly because I was too) but I did wonder about the logic of banning bikes completely in the place. On the way out I spotted on the doors "No cycles, skateboards, something else or heelys" under the "No dogs (except guide dogs)" bit but even so I think I'd still have interpreted it as "No bikes to be ridden" rather than "No bikes to be walked". It seems a bit daft to me. The local shopping farcility in my town has the same rule, unfortunately they also have a slashed peak proto nazi as a "security" guard. When he grabbed me by the shoulder and screamed " no bikes" I argued , then realised that he was too thick to understand logic, so took the problem away from him. Picked the bike up cyclocross style and told him " now it's hand luggage" and continued my journey. |
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"marc" wrote in message
... The local shopping farcility in my town has the same rule, unfortunately they also have a slashed peak proto nazi as a "security" guard. When he grabbed me by the shoulder and screamed " no bikes" I argued , then realised that he was too thick to understand logic, so took the problem away from him. Picked the bike up cyclocross style and told him " now it's hand luggage" and continued my journey. Do they have a strict "no pushchairs" policy? A bike has a much smaller "footprint" compared with a pushchair. He sounds like a jobsworth picking on someone *pushing* their bike when no doubt kids get away with *riding* through the precinct! |
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Peter Scandrett wrote:
Hi I went for a ride around Wigan today[1]; upon getting back and trying to get back to the car park I walked my bike through the new shopping mall they have there. I was approached by a member of the security/centre personnel who politely informed me that there was a 'no cycles' policy in the centre. I replied that I was aware that riding bikes was banned (I wasn't actually but it's logical) but he told me that this also extended to pushing bikes, too. I asked him what the nearest exit was, therefore, and how to get to the car park not through the centre, which I think flummoxed him slightly, but we worked out a way back. To reiterate, he was polite about it (possibly because I was too) but I did wonder about the logic of banning bikes completely in the place. On the way out I spotted on the doors "No cycles, skateboards, something else or heelys" under the "No dogs (except guide dogs)" bit but even so I think I'd still have interpreted it as "No bikes to be ridden" rather than "No bikes to be walked". It seems a bit daft to me. A similar thing happened to me when I was in Stevenage. I turned round, pushed my bike out and never went back in. I'd like to think that they lost a lot of money because of that, but realistically I probably wouldn't have bought much from the overpriced emporiums anyway. -- Chris /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML Mail / \ |
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"Peter Scandrett" wrote in message ... I went for a ride around Wigan today[1]; upon getting back and trying to get back to the car park I walked my bike through the new shopping mall they have there. I was approached by a member of the security/centre personnel who politely informed me that there was a 'no cycles' policy in the centre. I replied that I was aware that riding bikes was banned (I wasn't actually but it's logical) but he told me that this also extended to pushing bikes, too. I asked him what the nearest exit was, therefore, and how to get to the car park not through the centre, which I think flummoxed him slightly, but we worked out a way back. To reiterate, he was polite about it (possibly because I was too) but I did wonder about the logic of banning bikes completely in the place. On the way out I spotted on the doors "No cycles, skateboards, something else or heelys" under the "No dogs (except guide dogs)" bit but even so I think I'd still have interpreted it as "No bikes to be ridden" rather than "No bikes to be walked". It seems a bit daft to me. Back home the shopping centre had something like that on the doors. We asked some security guy if we could walk our bikes through to get to the car park and were told no. Where I am now the shopping centre has a no cycling policy in the car park which means there's no way to ride anywhere close to all those nice shiny sheffield stands they've put in! -- peter Cheap train tickets database http://www.petereverett.co.uk/tickets/ Email sent to this address is generally deleted upon arrival Visit website if you want to contact me |
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"Chris Slade" wrote in message ... A similar thing happened to me when I was in Stevenage. I turned round, pushed my bike out and never went back in. I'd like to think that they lost a lot of money because of that, but realistically I probably wouldn't have bought much from the overpriced emporiums anyway. There's a new shopping centre in Norwich; Chapelfield. I've not been in it at all. I don't intend to go in it. Norwich has some cycling paramedics. Chapelfield has banned the cycling paramedics from cycling on the premises even when responding to an emergency call. Another shopping centre in Norwich, Castle Mall, has no ban on the cycling paramedics cycling there. So I choose to go to Castle Mall and not to go to Chapelfield. Stopping Joe Public from cycling is one thing, but stopping cycling paramedics who are trained and cycling for a legitimate reason, to get to the scene of an emergency where ambulances can't get to, is entirely jobsworth. |
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On Jun 4, 8:10 pm, Peter Scandrett wrote:
Hi I went for a ride around Wigan today[1]; upon getting back and trying to get back to the car park I walked my bike through the new shopping mall they have there. I was approached by a member of the security/centre personnel who politely informed me that there was a 'no cycles' policy in the centre. I replied that I was aware that riding bikes was banned (I wasn't actually but it's logical) but he told me that this also extended to pushing bikes, too. I asked him what the nearest exit was, therefore, and how to get to the car park not through the centre, which I think flummoxed him slightly, but we worked out a way back. To reiterate, he was polite about it (possibly because I was too) but I did wonder about the logic of banning bikes completely in the place. On the way out I spotted on the doors "No cycles, skateboards, something else or heelys" under the "No dogs (except guide dogs)" bit but even so I think I'd still have interpreted it as "No bikes to be ridden" rather than "No bikes to be walked". It seems a bit daft to me. Also, while I'm here, is anyone from Wigan around? The gates and barriers on the Leeds/Liverpool canal as it rises up the 21 locks from Wigan pier are horrible - they're supposed to allow you to push your bike through but in practice snarl your gears and pannier and it's easier to walk the bike through the pedestrian bit on its back wheel or lift it over instead. Totally horrible (but then I hate these sort of things anyway)... at least near the Top Lock they changed style to the more familiar 'pinch point' bike passageway which are miles better (for me, anyway). Anyway, I'll go back to being quiet again... Peter (a relative lurker) [1] a pleasant 15m ride, ride report will appear below later (with two from a couple fo weeks ago too hopefully!). --http://www.scandrett.net/lx/http://www.scandrett.net/bike/ Had a similar experience with my Brommie (unfolded) at the Canary Wharf shopping centre a couple of years ago. I'd never been before, was only passing through while trying to get out of the tube station and it's quite big so I got a bit lost. Went up to some official- looking chappie to get help finding an exit and the attitude was far from "can I help you?", all he seemed to care about was that I was pushing a bike around and that was not allowed. Charming... Got hassled by another one of them on the way back too - and there really were bigger pushchairs around. I'm not going back there in a hurry. Wonder what these places would do if there was a bike shop in the shopping centre... they would have to sell magic teleporting bikes. Hel -- http://bikehippies.blogspot.com/ |
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On 4 Jun, 20:10, Peter Scandrett wrote:
On the way out I spotted on the doors "No cycles, skateboards, something else or heelys" under the "No dogs (except guide dogs)" bit but even so I think I'd still have interpreted it as "No bikes to be ridden" rather than "No bikes to be walked". It seems a bit daft to me. So I wonder if they ban skateboards and heelys when carried too? Do any of the shops sell such items? |
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"Peter Scandrett" wrote in message ... SNIP Also, while I'm here, is anyone from Wigan around? The gates and barriers on the Leeds/Liverpool canal as it rises up the 21 locks from Wigan pier are horrible - they're supposed to allow you to push your bike through but in practice snarl your gears and pannier and it's easier to walk the bike through the pedestrian bit on its back wheel or lift it over instead. Totally horrible (but then I hate these sort of things anyway)... at least near the Top Lock they changed style to the more familiar 'pinch point' bike passageway which are miles better (for me, anyway). Did the Leeds Liverpool Canal at Easter and have to admit that between Liverpool and just past Wigan the various "gates" are terrible. I lifted my bike over as I got fed up with trying to negotiate the different gates. The Yorkshire end is less of a problem as some of them are just like garden gates to keep the sheep from roaming?. Get past Skipton and there are very few obstacles of that nature. Dave |
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