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  #131  
Old February 7th 12, 02:24 PM posted to uk.railway,uk.legal,uk.rec.cycling
Neil Williams
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On Feb 7, 1:19*pm, The Weasel wrote:

What is the problem with it anyway? It’s one of those taxes where the
bigger the **** you are, or the more money you have, the more you have
to pay.


The fact that a good chunk of its cost is purely administrative, for
one.

Neil
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  #132  
Old February 7th 12, 02:33 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Feb 7, 8:28 am, Bruce wrote:
"Just zis Guy, you know?" wrote:

On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 23:34:42 +0000, Bruce
wrote:
If you are going to correct other people, you really should make just
a little effort to find out what its official name is:


"Motor Vehicle Licence".


I think you'll find it's actually called Vehicle Excise Duty.


The disc is the Motor Vehicle Licence.

What you pay for it is the Vehicle Excise Duty.


Correct.

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/roadtax1.jpg

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  #133  
Old February 7th 12, 04:22 PM posted to uk.railway,uk.legal,uk.rec.cycling
The Weasel
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On 07/02/2012 12:54, Bruce wrote:
The wrote:
Saw an advert on TV the other night for Peugeot cars and they mentioned
in it that they would pay your Road Tax for three years if you bought a
new car from them.

My mum always calls it Road Tax.



If your mum always calls it Road Tax, it must be Vehicle Excise Duty.


She recently asked a Muslim woman what her Christian name was. I told
her she does not have Christian name as she is Muslim, she wouldn’t have
it, she said ‘Of course she has a Christian name.’ Sometimes you just
have to let people believe what think to be is true.

Therefore, we may as well just accept that to some people Road Tax means
VED. If I spoke to mum about VED she would just glaze over and think I
was referring to some new designer drug or a computer language.


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  #134  
Old February 7th 12, 04:43 PM posted to uk.railway,uk.legal,uk.rec.cycling
The Weasel
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On 07/02/2012 15:49, Jeff wrote:
On 07/02/2012 12:08, Bruce wrote:
wrote:

Pedestrians may, unless explicitly prohibited from doing so, use
the carriageway, but (other than on crossings, such as zebra
crossings, where precedence is explicitly reversed) when doing so
they must give way to vehicular traffic.

The Highway Code expects drivers to give way to pedestrians who are
crossing at junctions.



But only if the driver is turning left.


No, it says "At road junctions, give way to pedestrians who are crossing
the road into which you are turning". No mention of a left or right turn.

Jeff


FFS, what are you supposed to do? Run ‘em over? Jeeze!

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  #135  
Old February 7th 12, 04:53 PM posted to uk.railway,uk.legal,uk.rec.cycling
Mortimer
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"The Weasel" wrote in message
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On 07/02/2012 15:49, Jeff wrote:
On 07/02/2012 12:08, Bruce wrote:
wrote:

Pedestrians may, unless explicitly prohibited from doing so, use
the carriageway, but (other than on crossings, such as zebra
crossings, where precedence is explicitly reversed) when doing so
they must give way to vehicular traffic.

The Highway Code expects drivers to give way to pedestrians who are
crossing at junctions.


But only if the driver is turning left.


No, it says "At road junctions, give way to pedestrians who are crossing
the road into which you are turning". No mention of a left or right turn.

Jeff


FFS, what are you supposed to do? Run ‘em over? Jeeze!


It's interesting that it only says "*into* which you are turning". Does that
mean that if you are turning left or right into a road, you are required to
stop if they are about to cross, but if you are approaching the main road
from the side road that they are waiting to cross, you are not? Obviously in
either case you give way if they have already started to cross, irrespective
of who has priority.

How far from the junction down the side road does the rule of pedestrian
priority extend?

  #136  
Old February 7th 12, 04:58 PM posted to uk.railway,uk.legal,uk.rec.cycling
Bruce[_6_]
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Jeff wrote:

On 07/02/2012 12:08, Bruce wrote:
wrote:

Pedestrians may, unless explicitly prohibited from doing so, use
the carriageway, but (other than on crossings, such as zebra
crossings, where precedence is explicitly reversed) when doing so
they must give way to vehicular traffic.

The Highway Code expects drivers to give way to pedestrians who are
crossing at junctions.



But only if the driver is turning left.


No, it says "At road junctions, give way to pedestrians who are crossing
the road into which you are turning". No mention of a left or right turn.



You're right. Another rule that has changed over the years. I'm
going to buy a new copy tomorrow and read it from cover to cover.

  #137  
Old February 7th 12, 05:07 PM posted to uk.legal,uk.rec.cycling,uk.railway
Judith[_4_]
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On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 11:23:47 -0000, "Mizter T" wrote:

snip


Cyclists don't like the term Road Tax because it reminds them that they
are sponging freeloaders.


A Grade A moronic comment from a Grade A moron. No need to converse with you
any further.


So feel free to explain exactly why cyclists do *not* like the term - as they
certainly don't.

  #139  
Old February 7th 12, 05:12 PM posted to uk.legal,uk.rec.cycling,uk.railway
Neil Williams
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On Feb 7, 6:07*pm, Judith wrote:

So feel free to explain exactly why cyclists do *not* like the term - as they
certainly don't.


I ride a bicycle, and thus I guess would be considered a cyclist, and
it would be the term I would use when discussing the matter
informally.

Neil
  #140  
Old February 7th 12, 05:14 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Judith[_4_]
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On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 14:33:43 -0000, "Simon Mason"
wrote:

On Feb 7, 8:28 am, Bruce wrote:
"Just zis Guy, you know?" wrote:

On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 23:34:42 +0000, Bruce
wrote:
If you are going to correct other people, you really should make just
a little effort to find out what its official name is:


"Motor Vehicle Licence".


I think you'll find it's actually called Vehicle Excise Duty.


The disc is the Motor Vehicle Licence.

What you pay for it is the Vehicle Excise Duty.


Correct.

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/roadtax1.jpg




Ho, ho, ho

See what Simple calls the name of his file!!!

What a ******.

 




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