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Is Lemond the only successful cyclist that wasn't a doper?



 
 
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Old June 16th 10, 08:59 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Anton Berlin
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Default Is Lemond the only successful cyclist that wasn't a doper?

I tried to give my girlfriend a little history of the problem and
couldn't find think of a rider that wasn't caught or later confessed -
I could only think of Lemond.

Then I added in a little bit about the way dopers can often be
identified by the company they keep, Armstrong with Ferrari, (everyone
with Armstrong) (someone should draw one of those small world diagrams
showing Armstrong as the hub)) Frank Schleck with the clinic payment
and

Oh.... ooops Lemond spent a lot of time with Eddie B.

Maybe boosting isn't doping in Greg's mind.
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Old June 16th 10, 09:15 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
ric
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Default Is Lemond the only successful cyclist that wasn't a doper?

On Jun 16, 3:59*pm, Anton Berlin wrote:
I tried to give my girlfriend a little history of the problem and
couldn't find think of a rider that wasn't caught or later confessed -
I could only think of Lemond.

Then I added in a little bit about the way dopers can often be
identified by the company they keep, Armstrong with Ferrari, (everyone
with Armstrong) (someone should draw one of those small world diagrams
showing Armstrong as the hub)) Frank Schleck with the clinic payment
and

Oh.... ooops *Lemond spent a lot of time with Eddie B.

Maybe boosting isn't doping in Greg's mind.


Maybe doping isn't doping except when it is in Greg's mind.

It's been claimed that Greg was the first to introduce EPO to the
Peloton after he was treated with it after his gunshot wound.

One does not win the tour on spring water, no?

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Old June 16th 10, 09:37 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Steven Bornfeld[_2_]
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Default Is Lemond the only successful cyclist that wasn't a doper?

ric wrote:
On Jun 16, 3:59 pm, Anton Berlin wrote:
I tried to give my girlfriend a little history of the problem and
couldn't find think of a rider that wasn't caught or later confessed -
I could only think of Lemond.

Then I added in a little bit about the way dopers can often be
identified by the company they keep, Armstrong with Ferrari, (everyone
with Armstrong) (someone should draw one of those small world diagrams
showing Armstrong as the hub)) Frank Schleck with the clinic payment
and

Oh.... ooops Lemond spent a lot of time with Eddie B.

Maybe boosting isn't doping in Greg's mind.


Maybe doping isn't doping except when it is in Greg's mind.

It's been claimed that Greg was the first to introduce EPO to the
Peloton after he was treated with it after his gunshot wound.


I know this is rbr, but does anyone really believe this?

Steve



One does not win the tour on spring water, no?



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Old June 16th 10, 09:38 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
S Perryman
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Default Is Lemond the only successful cyclist that wasn't a doper?

Anton Berlin wrote:

I tried to give my girlfriend a little history of the problem and
couldn't find think of a rider that wasn't caught or later confessed -
I could only think of Lemond.


Hinault ?? Fignon ?? Roche ?? Hampsten ?? Indurain ??


Then I added in a little bit about the way dopers can often be
identified by the company they keep, Armstrong with Ferrari, (everyone
with Armstrong) (someone should draw one of those small world diagrams
showing Armstrong as the hub)) Frank Schleck with the clinic payment
and


Oh.... ooops Lemond spent a lot of time with Eddie B.


And Roche is implicated with Dr Ferrari (the second stint at Carrera) .


Regards,
Steven Perryman
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Old June 16th 10, 10:04 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.
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Default Is Lemond the only successful cyclist that wasn't a doper?

On Jun 16, 1:38*pm, S Perryman wrote:
Anton Berlin wrote:
I tried to give my girlfriend a little history of the problem and
couldn't find think of a rider that wasn't caught or later confessed -
I could only think of Lemond.


Hinault ?? Fignon ?? Roche ?? Hampsten ?? Indurain ??

Then I added in a little bit about the way dopers can often be
identified by the company they keep, Armstrong with Ferrari, (everyone
with Armstrong) (someone should draw one of those small world diagrams
showing Armstrong as the hub)) Frank Schleck with the clinic payment
and
Oh.... ooops *Lemond spent a lot of time with Eddie B.


And Roche is implicated with Dr Ferrari (the second stint at Carrera) .

Regards,
Steven Perryman




Roche-dirty, Indurain-dirty, Fignon-dirty
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Old June 16th 10, 10:06 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
z, fred
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Default Is Lemond the only successful cyclist that wasn't a doper?

ric wrote:
On Jun 16, 3:59 pm, Anton Berlin wrote:
I tried to give my girlfriend a little history of the problem and
couldn't find think of a rider that wasn't caught or later confessed -
I could only think of Lemond.

Then I added in a little bit about the way dopers can often be
identified by the company they keep, Armstrong with Ferrari, (everyone
with Armstrong) (someone should draw one of those small world diagrams
showing Armstrong as the hub)) Frank Schleck with the clinic payment
and

Oh.... ooops Lemond spent a lot of time with Eddie B.

Maybe boosting isn't doping in Greg's mind.


Maybe doping isn't doping except when it is in Greg's mind.

It's been claimed that Greg was the first to introduce EPO to the
Peloton after he was treated with it after his gunshot wound.

One does not win the tour on spring water, no?


Dumbass,

How would EPO be used to treat a gunshot wound?
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Old June 16th 10, 10:08 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
z, fred
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Default Is Lemond the only successful cyclist that wasn't a doper?

S Perryman wrote:
Anton Berlin wrote:

I tried to give my girlfriend a little history of the problem and
couldn't find think of a rider that wasn't caught or later confessed -
I could only think of Lemond.


Hinault ?? Fignon ?? Roche ?? Hampsten ?? Indurain ??


Hampsten of those. No one really thinks Indurain was clean. Fignon
admitted to doping when he said that he did not think that it attributed
to his cancer. Hinault? All I can say is that he's old school.




Then I added in a little bit about the way dopers can often be
identified by the company they keep, Armstrong with Ferrari, (everyone
with Armstrong) (someone should draw one of those small world diagrams
showing Armstrong as the hub)) Frank Schleck with the clinic payment
and


Oh.... ooops Lemond spent a lot of time with Eddie B.


And Roche is implicated with Dr Ferrari (the second stint at Carrera) .


Regards,
Steven Perryman

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Old June 16th 10, 10:18 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
z, fred
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Default Is Lemond the only successful cyclist that wasn't a doper?

Anton Berlin wrote:
I tried to give my girlfriend a little history of the problem and
couldn't find think of a rider that wasn't caught or later confessed -
I could only think of Lemond.

Then I added in a little bit about the way dopers can often be
identified by the company they keep, Armstrong with Ferrari, (everyone
with Armstrong) (someone should draw one of those small world diagrams
showing Armstrong as the hub)) Frank Schleck with the clinic payment
and

Oh.... ooops Lemond spent a lot of time with Eddie B.

Maybe boosting isn't doping in Greg's mind.



Dumbass,

Lemond left the US to race in Europe in 1980 after Carter boycotted the
Olympics. He was with Guimard and Renault in 1981.

Eddie didn't start with the Federation until 1978. Prior to that he was
painting bridges in Joisey.

Obviously they have remained friends since that time, but Eddie's direct
influence would have been minimal. Plus, at that time, Eddie had no
contacts with the pro peloton or western Europe.

Who has a higher BMI, Lemond or your girlfriend?
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Old June 16th 10, 10:23 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
A. Dumas
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Default Is Lemond the only successful cyclist that wasn't a doper?

z, fred wrote:
How would EPO be used to treat a gunshot wound?


Gentle rubbing.
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Old June 16th 10, 10:41 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Anton Berlin
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Default Is Lemond the only successful cyclist that wasn't a doper?

On Jun 16, 3:38*pm, S Perryman wrote:
Anton Berlin wrote:
I tried to give my girlfriend a little history of the problem and
couldn't find think of a rider that wasn't caught or later confessed -
I could only think of Lemond.


Hinault ?? Fignon ?? Roche ?? Hampsten ?? Indurain ??

Then I added in a little bit about the way dopers can often be
identified by the company they keep, Armstrong with Ferrari, (everyone
with Armstrong) (someone should draw one of those small world diagrams
showing Armstrong as the hub)) Frank Schleck with the clinic payment
and
Oh.... ooops *Lemond spent a lot of time with Eddie B.


And Roche is implicated with Dr Ferrari (the second stint at Carrera) .

Regards,
Steven Perryman


Roche - we know, Indurain - we damn well know, Hampsten, (my
qualification was a grand tour and the worlds) Fignon - admitted
doper (Hinault - unsure but close enough with lemond to boost )
 




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