Thoughts on Cinelli Super Corsa??

I bought a Cinelli Supercorsa in 1994. It is made in Columbus SLX
rather than Neuron tubing, but otherwise looks pretty much the same as
those on Gary Hobbs' site. Obviously I cannot tell if the geometry
has changed and my comments apply to my own frame. It is without a
doubt the nicest-riding steel frame I have ever been on. It combines
great straight-line stability with superb agility in corners (two
characteristics that might seem to be mutually exclusive). It also
looks very classy and its appearance has held up well (albeit with a
ton of TLC from me). It is quite heavy, particularly with its '94
Chorus Ergo group and every spring I think I will take it to the local
bike swap and see what I can get for it. Foolishly, I always ride it
before hauling it off to the swap and it take only a few seconds in
the saddle to make me decide to keep it for at least another year.

Don't know if the above is any help to you, but I think you get the
idea that I quite like mine.

Best wishes,

Nigel Grinter

Eurastus wrote in message ...
Many moons ago (like 24 years--back in 1979) when I first started serious road
riding as a freshman in high school, one of the guys I rode with quite
regularly had a beautiful Cinelli with a brand new Campy Nuovo Record group--he
even had a Cinelli saddle. What a bike. I was on a pitiful Schwinn Traveler
III and dreamed of the day I could afford such a machine.

Well, now I can. I've been looking about for a steel framed replacement for my
15-year-old 7-speed steed and happened into this site: http://www.gvhbikes.com/.

They've got a beautiful Cinelli Super Corsa in a color I like and just the
right size.

I intend to equip it with a full Campy Record 10 triple group.

I want to stay with steel.

So here's my questions:

What is the reputation of Cinelli steel frames? Back in the day, they were
considered the very best, but is this still the case?

The guy that runs GVH Bikes appears to have had some health problems and his
shop is closed indefinitely. Is there another source for the Cinelli Super
Corsa I could turn to should I decide to purchase?

Anything else you can tell me about the Cinelli Super Corsa?

Thanks much...

"Eurastus" wrote in message
...
Many moons ago (like 24 years--back in 1979) when I first started serious
road
riding as a freshman in high school, one of the guys I rode with quite
regularly had a beautiful Cinelli with a brand new Campy Nuovo Record
group--he
even had a Cinelli saddle. What a bike. I was on a pitiful Schwinn
Traveler
III and dreamed of the day I could afford such a machine.

Well, now I can. I've been looking about for a steel framed replacement
for my
15-year-old 7-speed steed and happened into this site:
http://www.gvhbikes.com/.

They've got a beautiful Cinelli Super Corsa in a color I like and just the
right size.

I intend to equip it with a full Campy Record 10 triple group.

I want to stay with steel.

So here's my questions:

What is the reputation of Cinelli steel frames? Back in the day, they
were
considered the very best, but is this still the case?

The guy that runs GVH Bikes appears to have had some health problems and
his
shop is closed indefinitely. Is there another source for the Cinelli
Super
Corsa I could turn to should I decide to purchase?

Anything else you can tell me about the Cinelli Super Corsa?

Thanks much...

My understanding was that Cinelli was acquired by the Columbus tubing
company (love to hear otherwise). I've only seen one Super Corsa less than
a couple years old, and I'm saddened to say it didn't really match the
finish of the early models. Nowhere near as nice as the work on my
Mondonico, which would be my choice for a "traditional Italian lugged frame"
that's still fairly modern in its tubing choices and weight. Then again, I
still ride my 19 year-old Torelli and Paramount frames too...

TC

F1 wrote:
A bit off topic, but why do you want steel?

ride quality & repairability, weight often very close to other materials.

I'm fairly new to biking and
just wondering why anyone would want anything BUT a good aluminum or carbon
frame, price not withstanding?

"F1" wrote in message k.net...
A bit off topic, but why do you want steel? I'm fairly new to biking and
just wondering why anyone would want anything BUT a good aluminum or carbon
frame, price not withstanding?

because the bike in question looks great.

(If you're not interested in The Ultimate in Performance--or indeed,
as in my case, you are utterly incapable of any Performance
whatsoever--than you're looking for the bike you can ride comfortably,
know will last forever, and gratifies your eye as much as the rest of
your body when you ride. )

(I, however, can't afford nice frames like that, so.)

Because the OP might remember the racing heroes of his youth riding
similar frames.

Because modern frames look too garish....

Because riding is prior to and more imporant than even racing

Because...just because.

-Luigi

If you decide to go with an American builder, check with Albert Eisentraut @
http://www.eisentraut.com/
If I am not mistaken, at one time Albert built Cinellis. Albert has been one of
the premier framer builders in America for decades. I, too, like the looks of the
older Italian frames and ended up buying a custom Eisentraut a couple years ago.
It is a great bike. scott

Eurastus wrote:

Many moons ago (like 24 years--back in 1979) when I first started serious road
riding as a freshman in high school, one of the guys I rode with quite
regularly had a beautiful Cinelli with a brand new Campy Nuovo Record group--he
even had a Cinelli saddle. What a bike. I was on a pitiful Schwinn Traveler
III and dreamed of the day I could afford such a machine.

Well, now I can. I've been looking about for a steel framed replacement for my
15-year-old 7-speed steed and happened into this site: http://www.gvhbikes.com/.

They've got a beautiful Cinelli Super Corsa in a color I like and just the
right size.

I intend to equip it with a full Campy Record 10 triple group.

I want to stay with steel.

So here's my questions:

What is the reputation of Cinelli steel frames? Back in the day, they were
considered the very best, but is this still the case?

The guy that runs GVH Bikes appears to have had some health problems and his
shop is closed indefinitely. Is there another source for the Cinelli Super
Corsa I could turn to should I decide to purchase?

Anything else you can tell me about the Cinelli Super Corsa?

Thanks much...

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 20:02:03 +0000, Scott wrote:

If you decide to go with an American builder, check with Albert Eisentraut
@ http://www.eisentraut.com/
If I am not mistaken, at one time Albert built Cinellis.

What would make you think that? Eisentraut has been building his own
bikes for a long time. When would he have worked for Cinelli?

--

David L. Johnson

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"David L. Johnson" wrote in message
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 20:02:03 +0000, Scott wrote:

If you decide to go with an American builder, check with Albert
Eisentraut
@ http://www.eisentraut.com/
If I am not mistaken, at one time Albert built Cinellis.

What would make you think that? Eisentraut has been building his own
bikes for a long time. When would he have worked for Cinelli?

Agree, Eisentraut has never worked for Cinelli. He learned his trade from
the Master frame builder Oscar Wastyn. Outside of maybe Richard Sachs,
Albert Eisentraut is the *premier* American frame builder and is also known
as the "Godfather of American Framebuilding". For more on him see he

http://www.bicycletrader.com/archive...ticles.html#01

Brad Keeter wrote:
[Nothing except changing the subject line.]

This is not a Web forum. Don't do that.
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David Damerell Kill the tomato!

"Dan H." wrote in message
s.com...
There is nothing wrong with the "new" Cinelli Super Corsa. I have sold and
built one myself and the customer loves it! I do have one small complaint
about the seat binder system but it seems to be holding up as I have had
no
complaints from the above mentioned customer since he bought it 5 years
ago.
Since GVH is closed indefinitly, I would be happy to match his rediculusly
low price if want to get one.
brmATpolitesociety.com

Those seat binder bolts are ridiculous.



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Robin Hubert

On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 14:11:38 +0000, Robin Hubert wrote:

Those seat binder bolts are ridiculous.

I haven't seen one of these close up, but the old Cinelli seat binder
treatment and seat lug/seatstay joint were elegant and functional. What has changed?

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David L. Johnson

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