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"Claire Petersky" wrote in message ink.net... Chalo wrote: Is this consistent with anyone else's experience? Chalo, as a motorcyclist, you are probably familiar with the nod or wave that occurs between motorcyclists. It's the sort of thing members of a beleaguered social group do with each other -- a mutual, hang in there, how's it going type recognition. Yet, how many times do motorcyclists nod or wave to bicyclists, and visa versa? I think it's the same thing going on here. These people who are not nodding/waving do not consider themselves to be in the same social group as you. I remember reading a book about women in pop culture, something like that, and the author was mentioning how mothers often nod to each other in public places, like the supermarket. I thought, gee, just like cyclists! Incidentally, I find that out of all the people on the road, drivers that is, motorcyclists are the least amount of trouble. I have never had a motorcyclist, even the toughest looking ones on the biggest hogs, ever yell, spit, curse swear or harrass me or my friends. In fact, they tend to give a wide berth and often are friendly and even wave at us! |
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Chalo wrote:
To a one, those riders who seemed to ignore my greeting were Cycling Enthusiasts in uniform-- wearing Lycra in colors not found in nature, topped with styrofoam hats, riding road bikes of recent vintage and uncomfortable-looking rider position. Along with their regalia they wore expressions between serious and grim. They rode by, all of them, as if they failed to notice the near-7-foot, near-400-pound guy on a 6-foot tall chopper waving to them as they passed. Yet all the other folks on bikes (the ones wearing mostly real clothes, regardless of the type of bike or speed with which they rode) had some kind of acknowledging response, mostly very friendly. Is this consistent with anyone else's experience? Are folks who wear "Superduperbikeman" getups playing some character role from which they fear to depart? What's the deal? I'm usually the first to wave to oncoming motorcycles, even though I wear Lycra and oddly-colored jerseys, have a road bike, and ride in a pretty spirited fashion. The folks on Harleys usually wave back, the folks on sport bikes (aka crotch rockets) never do. Draw your own conclusions. But when I'm "on the rivet", or descending a twisty mountain road, I don't wave. Just a little too busy at that point. -- terry morse Palo Alto, CA http://bike.terrymorse.com/ |
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:11:26 -0700, Terry Morse wrote:
Chalo wrote: To a one, those riders who seemed to ignore my greeting were Cycling Enthusiasts in uniform-- wearing Lycra in colors not found in nature, topped with styrofoam hats, riding road bikes of recent vintage and uncomfortable-looking rider position. Along with their regalia they wore expressions between serious and grim. They rode by, all of them, as if they failed to notice the near-7-foot, near-400-pound guy on a 6-foot tall chopper waving to them as they passed. Yet all the other folks on bikes (the ones wearing mostly real clothes, regardless of the type of bike or speed with which they rode) had some kind of acknowledging response, mostly very friendly. Is this consistent with anyone else's experience? Are folks who wear "Superduperbikeman" getups playing some character role from which they fear to depart? What's the deal? I'm usually the first to wave to oncoming motorcycles, even though I wear Lycra and oddly-colored jerseys, have a road bike, and ride in a pretty spirited fashion. The folks on Harleys usually wave back, the folks on sport bikes (aka crotch rockets) never do. Draw your own conclusions. But when I'm "on the rivet", or descending a twisty mountain road, I don't wave. Just a little too busy at that point. -- terry morse Palo Alto, CA http://bike.terrymorse.com/ OK, I'll add my 2 cents to this. I always wave at Harleys and other motorcycle types and they always wave back (the Harley types at least), but then I ride in Levi type jeans and a ragged t-shirt. None of that lycra stuff for me. The Harley guys wave back and the pocket bikes usually don't. I used to ride with the Harley crowd and they are a lot more sociable than they get credit for, especially to another two wheel rider. What they would do about some guy in lycra waving might be just to laugh, but then so would I when I was on a big motorcycle. On a bicycle I have been passed by 3 guys in lycra on road bikes an they were too absorbed in themselves and their conversation to even wave back. I know, they were training.? Chalo, you are near 7 feet tall? I have a friend who is something over 6'9" and he makes even a motorcycle look small, and a big bicycle looks puny with him on it. What do you ride? Post a picture for us. Curious minds want to know. Bill Baka -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ |
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"Bill Baka" wrote in message news On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:11:26 -0700, Terry Morse wrote: Chalo wrote: To a one, those riders who seemed to ignore my greeting were Cycling Enthusiasts in uniform-- wearing Lycra in colors not found in nature, topped with styrofoam hats, riding road bikes of recent vintage and uncomfortable-looking rider position. Along with their regalia they wore expressions between serious and grim. They rode by, all of them, as if they failed to notice the near-7-foot, near-400-pound guy on a 6-foot tall chopper waving to them as they passed. Yet all the other folks on bikes (the ones wearing mostly real clothes, regardless of the type of bike or speed with which they rode) had some kind of acknowledging response, mostly very friendly. Is this consistent with anyone else's experience? Are folks who wear "Superduperbikeman" getups playing some character role from which they fear to depart? What's the deal? I'm usually the first to wave to oncoming motorcycles, even though I wear Lycra and oddly-colored jerseys, have a road bike, and ride in a pretty spirited fashion. The folks on Harleys usually wave back, the folks on sport bikes (aka crotch rockets) never do. Draw your own conclusions. But when I'm "on the rivet", or descending a twisty mountain road, I don't wave. Just a little too busy at that point. -- terry morse Palo Alto, CA http://bike.terrymorse.com/ OK, I'll add my 2 cents to this. I always wave at Harleys and other motorcycle types and they always wave back (the Harley types at least), but then I ride in Levi type jeans and a ragged t-shirt. None of that lycra stuff for me. The Harley guys wave back and the pocket bikes usually don't. I used to ride with the Harley crowd and they are a lot more sociable than they get credit for, especially to another two wheel rider. What they would do about some guy in lycra waving might be just to laugh, but then so would I when I was on a big motorcycle. On a bicycle I have been passed by 3 guys in lycra on road bikes an they were too absorbed in themselves and their conversation to even wave back. I know, they were training.? Chalo, you are near 7 feet tall? I have a friend who is something over 6'9" and he makes even a motorcycle look small, and a big bicycle looks puny with him on it. What do you ride? Post a picture for us. Curious minds want to know. Bill Baka -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ i hate to rant on the NG but Jeez, it's all about uniforms isnt it? and colors (whether it be oily levis or yellow lycra). i wear what's comfortable to train in and bright enough to be seen by those (maybe not paying attention?). nobody ever waves to me, or, i didnt see them. im really just trying to survive out there and get a workout in the process. do you wave and say hi to everyone you pass on foot? i would love to tell everyone on the road how nice it is to see them but frankly i'm busy and my heart rate is going about 160. and no-i'm not a big fan of rec.bicycles.racing either. i get very bored when people start going off on politics. -alan |
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"Chalo" wrote in message om... To a one, those riders who seemed to ignore my greeting were Cycling Enthusiasts in uniform-- wearing Lycra in colors not found in nature, topped with styrofoam hats, riding road bikes of recent vintage and uncomfortable-looking rider position. Along with their regalia they wore expressions between serious and grim. Make a note to yourself to remember to use all five fingers next time you wave at one of these guys. Seriously, though, I offer a corollary to this. When I'm on my regular bike (if you can consider a 68 cm frame "regular") I am routinely ignored by my motorized two-wheeled brethren. However, when I ride my V2 recombinant bike, which looks a bit like a chopper, I get waved at all the time, even by the REAL Hawg riders. |
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"foldedpath" wrote in message . 97.142... I hear that it's a good idea to just stop, and place your bike between yourself and the threat. It would be tough for a group of skinny roadies with ultralight carbon bikes to get past my 35 lb. steel commuter bike, wielded as a shield or bludgeon. I always threaten them with a Twinkie or something else with (gasp) FAT in it. Turns 'em around every time. |
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"Chalo" wrote in message om... | ....snip | | Being in the habit of delivering the friendly wave at a second's | notice, I often find myself waving to bicyclists when out riding my | own bicycle. | ....snip | | To a one, those riders who seemed to ignore my greeting were Cycling | Enthusiasts in uniform-- wearing Lycra in colors not found in nature, | topped with styrofoam hats, riding road bikes of recent vintage and | uncomfortable-looking rider position. Along with their regalia they | wore expressions between serious and grim. They rode by, all of them, | as if they failed to notice the near-7-foot, near-400-pound guy on a | 6-foot tall chopper waving to them as they passed. | | Yet all the other folks on bikes (the ones wearing mostly real | clothes, regardless of the type of bike or speed with which they rode) | had some kind of acknowledging response, mostly very friendly. | | Is this consistent with anyone else's experience? | | Are folks who wear "Superduperbikeman" getups playing some character | role from which they fear to depart? | | What's the deal? | | Chalo Colina My experience is the same as yours - racer wannabes almost always ignore me and never wave, mountain bikers and "regular folks" nearly always say 'hello' in some manner. I've experienced the same thing when I've been standing by the side of the road with a bike problem - racer wannabes zipped on by, mountain bikers and "regular folks" asked if I needed help. My guess as to the reason? Simple snobbery... Jean |
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"Bill Baka" wrote in message news but then I ride in Levi type jeans and a ragged t-shirt. None of that lycra stuff for me. Ok Bill, so life has dealt you a poor hand. Look, the world is full of nobodies, it's asking a bit much to expect guys like me to go around and wave/ smile/nod at you types. Why get on the bike in the first place if you look so bad? Cars were made for people like you. |
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Fri, 20 Aug 2004 00:36:16 GMT,
, "Leo Lichtman" wrote: When you wave, and the other rider ignores you, it may mean that you look like a yokel on your first ride. Unless it's Wednesday. Wednesdays are for waving. When you're on your bike and it's Wednesday and you see somebody else on their bike, you _must_ wave. A minimum of two full flaps or wags is the rule. Head nods, grunts or finger wiggles can find their own days. -- zk |
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