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Fabrizio Mazzoleni wrote:
"Bill Baka" wrote in message news but then I ride in Levi type jeans and a ragged t-shirt. None of that lycra stuff for me. Ok Bill, so life has dealt you a poor hand. Look, the world is full of nobodies, it's asking a bit much to expect guys like me to go around and wave/ smile/nod at you types. Why get on the bike in the first place if you look so bad? Cars were made for people like you. I really don't want to read Bill's reply to this, but I just sorta have to...you know? Bill "like watching a fishing bobber on the surface" S. |
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 03:16:55 GMT, "Fabrizio Mazzoleni"
wrote: Ok Bill, so life has dealt you a poor hand. Look, the world is full of nobodies, it's asking a bit much to expect guys like me to go around and wave/ smile/nod at you types. Why get on the bike in the first place if you look so bad? Cars were made for people like you. Every now and then you hit your character spot on. This is one. Thanks for the laugh. |
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My 2 cents.....When I was on my 20-25 year old mountain bike, or now on my
bikeE bent.....I always (well, almost always) say hello and/or wave to EVERYONE I pass....In either direction....And most say hi and/or wave back to me...This is usually on the multi-use paths here... On the main streets, some do, some don't. A couple of weeks back in Walnut Creek, had a Hell's Angel type biker pull up next to me at a stop light. I was on my bent. He looked my bike up and down, gave me a big toothy smile and a thumbs up, and said (with gusto) "Nice Bike!!".....And since he had a good looking and well decorated motorcycle, returned the compliment...We both drove off with smiles on our faces..... Eric, bikeE CT |
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 19:41:55 -0700, dreaded wrote:
"Bill Baka" wrote in message news On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:11:26 -0700, Terry Morse wrote: OK, I'll add my 2 cents to this. I always wave at Harleys and other motorcycle types and they always wave back (the Harley types at least), but then I ride in Levi type jeans and a ragged t-shirt. None of that lycra stuff for me. The Harley guys wave back and the pocket bikes usually don't. I used to ride with the Harley crowd and they are a lot more sociable than they get credit for, especially to another two wheel rider. What they would do about some guy in lycra waving might be just to laugh, but then so would I when I was on a big motorcycle. On a bicycle I have been passed by 3 guys in lycra on road bikes an they were too absorbed in themselves and their conversation to even wave back. I know, they were training.? Bill Baka -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ i hate to rant on the NG but Jeez, it's all about uniforms isnt it? and colors (whether it be oily levis or yellow lycra). i wear what's comfortable to train in and bright enough to be seen by those (maybe not paying attention?). nobody ever waves to me, or, i didnt see them. im really just trying to survive out there and get a workout in the process. do you wave and say hi to everyone you pass on foot? i would love to tell everyone on the road how nice it is to see them but frankly i'm busy and my heart rate is going about 160. and no-i'm not a big fan of rec.bicycles.racing either. i get very bored when people start going off on politics. -alan Heck with the uniforms, I have done 80 miles in cutoff jeans and a t shirt. I carry a kids large book backpack with tools, a gallon of O.J., a bunch of bananas, some pre-baked potatoes, maybe somehigh calorie chocolate snack cakes, my camera, and whatever other junk fits. It is very non traditional but I am self contained for up to 80 miles, then I usually run out of Orange Juice and fill up the gallon jug with mountain stream water, bugs, fish ****, and all. I could go over 100 miles on one of these trips but I could not claim a roadie century, since I do get off the bike and enjoy the nature. This puts me more in tune with some of the motorcycle crowd than the roadie crowd for some reason. I manage to ride or hike enough to sometimes keep my heart rate up around 160-170 most of the day, peaking at about 180 for short blasts. Nobody to wave to up there but one guy on a motorcycle was surprised to see me and glad to wave first. People seem to get friendlier the farther they get from the city traffic. I will have my Schwinn road bike going tomorrow but I will never get to take it to all the interesting back woods hideouts I have found. Just miles and miles of circles on what good pavement I can find. And no damn lycra. Bill Baka -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ |
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 03:16:55 GMT, Fabrizio Mazzoleni
wrote: "Bill Baka" wrote in message news but then I ride in Levi type jeans and a ragged t-shirt. None of that lycra stuff for me. Ok Bill, so life has dealt you a poor hand. Look, the world is full of nobodies, it's asking a bit much to expect guys like me to go around and wave/ smile/nod at you types. Why get on the bike in the first place if you look so bad? Cars were made for people like you. Proably because I can outspeed many of the Lycra crowd due to superior conditioning riding my *-mart Huffy MTB as fast as I can. You should fear me after tomorrow when I get my real road bike going. And I still won't wear any damned silly looking Lycra, great legs or not. If I can get a 48 pound Huffy up in the mountains I think I can really haul ass on a 20 something pound road racer. But I will still wave to my brethren on Hawgs. I was a bicycler, then a Hawg biker, then got married and went back to tame bicycles. When I drive I tend to go way too fast and use that damn fossil fuel. I would rather arrive sweaty and content. Bill Baka -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ |
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 05:07:26 GMT, S o r n i
wrote: Fabrizio Mazzoleni wrote: "Bill Baka" wrote in message news but then I ride in Levi type jeans and a ragged t-shirt. None of that lycra stuff for me. Ok Bill, so life has dealt you a poor hand. Look, the world is full of nobodies, it's asking a bit much to expect guys like me to go around and wave/ smile/nod at you types. Why get on the bike in the first place if you look so bad? Cars were made for people like you. I really don't want to read Bill's reply to this, but I just sorta have to...you know? Bill "like watching a fishing bobber on the surface" S. More people would think I am wierd if I had to dress up in a bicycle geek outfit just to ride 20 miles or so. I have an image to maintain, and I don't want it to be the fit 55 year old wearing bright yellow lycra. My own grandchildren would disown me, and they are my occasional short trip riding club. The kids are way more fun than a bunch of adults who think they are the ultimate example of cyclist etiquette. Besides, I can get off the bike and hike through stickers and weeds when I get the urge, can you? I am more fit than most 35 year olds so who gets the last laugh. I have had non-cycling friends have 5 way bypasses before they even saw 50. Laughing all the way to 100, miles and years. And I wave mostly to Harleys since I can talk Hawgs with them, and that gets them into a very friendly "You used to ride one?" kind of mood. I just can't put $20,000 into a bike right now, maybe later I will join the grey Angels. Bill Baka -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ |
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"Chalo" wrote in message om... I spend more time on my motorbike than on my pushbikes most weeks, and I get to take part in the motorcyclists' quaint tradition of waving to each other when they pass on the road. (VW bus drivers do this too, I remember.) Rare is the motorcyclist who intentionally refuses this gesture to his two-wheeled motoring brethren. Even racer-wannabees and outlaw-biker-wannabees, otherwise largely at odds, will extend the hand of greeting to each other in passing. Being in the habit of delivering the friendly wave at a second's notice, I often find myself waving to bicyclists when out riding my own bicycle. Yesterday, I was riding my big blue chopper Babe down the waterfront bike lanes to meet some of my Dead Baby Bikes club compatriots. Riding high and mighty, and sporting my club colors, I was making a point of delivering the wave to all the cyclists who passed my way. A lot of them, maybe most, replied in kind. Many did not, and most of those seemed willful about it. No big deal, of course, but there was something in common with all those who did not wave or smile or say hello. To a one, those riders who seemed to ignore my greeting were Cycling Enthusiasts in uniform-- wearing Lycra in colors not found in nature, topped with styrofoam hats, riding road bikes of recent vintage and uncomfortable-looking rider position. Along with their regalia they wore expressions between serious and grim. They rode by, all of them, as if they failed to notice the near-7-foot, near-400-pound guy on a 6-foot tall chopper waving to them as they passed. Yet all the other folks on bikes (the ones wearing mostly real clothes, regardless of the type of bike or speed with which they rode) had some kind of acknowledging response, mostly very friendly. Is this consistent with anyone else's experience? Are folks who wear "Superduperbikeman" getups playing some character role from which they fear to depart? What's the deal? Chalo Colina I ride a skinny tire bike and wear lycra on all rides. I always give a wave and smile to other cyclists, even the homeless men loaded down with everything they own hanging on the bike. I can't wave, however, when I'm doing intervals by myself or recovering after an interval or when I'm in front of the paceline taking my turn. I can sometimes manage to lift the fingers of my left hand off the bars but I don't think the on coming cyclist can see that feeble attempt. So if you see me and I don't wave, that's why. It could be this way for other riders as well. As a former motorcycle rider, I find that us 2 wheelers have some things in common while trying to share the road with 4 wheelers. Perhaps that is why motorcyclists and cyclists seem to 'get along'. I aways enjoy when large, noisy, groups of motorcyclists are on-coming or passing me on the bike! jb |
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In article ,
"psycholist" writes: This is funny. You guys here are the ones casting stones and creating stereotypes. Maybe a guy has an hour to get in a good, hard workout. He's focused on what he's doing. Not everyone is into cycling for the social aspect. I just can't socialize during the morning commute (it's too early for me for that, and my sole intent is to get to the destination ASAP,) or while riding to job sites. Most of the other riders I encounter during the morning commute seem to feel the same way -- maybe they're still waiting for the caffeine to kick in, or haven't had their first cup of coffee of the day yet. So I don't pester 'em. If they wave at me, I don't have time to notice, let alone acknowledge them. Otherwise, at stop lines I often get to engage in pleasant little small-talk conversations with other riders, while waiting for a break in the cross traffic. cheers, & I think I'm playing hooky today, Tom -- -- Nothing is safe from me. Above address is just a spam midden. I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca |
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