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Exclusive: Brits on bikes as fitness app data shows pandemic boom
LONDON (Reuters) - Active travel is booming in Britain as millions of
commuters, shoppers and schoolchildren get on their bikes to avoid confined spaces on public transport during the COVID-19 pandemic, data from the fitness tracker app Strava showed on Wednesday. The city of Liverpool saw the greatest year-on-year rise in cycling, with an increase of more than 220% for people taking at least one trip by bike. The UK data, seen exclusively by Reuters, also showed the peak of Britain’s cycling popularity growth surge came in May 2020, coinciding with the height of COVID-19 lockdown restrictions across Britain. https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-sp...-idUKKCN26D35C |
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Exclusive: Brits on bikes as fitness app data shows pandemic boom
On 23/09/2020 11:33, Bod wrote:
LONDON (Reuters) - Active travel is booming in Britain as millions of commuters, shoppers and schoolchildren get on their bikes to avoid confined spaces on public transport during the COVID-19 pandemic, data from the fitness tracker app Strava showed on Wednesday. The city of Liverpool saw the greatest year-on-year rise in cycling, with an increase of more than 220% for people taking at least one trip by bike. The current sheer risk of travelling by bus (Liverpool has no suburban rail network to speak of*) is surely enough to persuade people to consider all the alternatives. I bet you there has been a large percentage increase in car journeys and (short-ish) journeys on foot too. The safest modes are driving/motorcycling, cycling and walking. But... "an increase of more than 220% for people taking at least one trip by bike"... What does it even mean? "Here, let me have a go of your bike, just down to the roundabout and back, to see what it's like..." then "Well, I got there, but I won't be doing it again" would count as part of the claimed 220%, wouldn't it? The UK data, seen exclusively by Reuters, also showed the peak of Britain’s cycling popularity growth surge came in May 2020, coinciding with the height of COVID-19 lockdown restrictions across Britain. https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-sp...-idUKKCN26D35C How anyone has the confidence to travel on a bus or an Underground train is a mystery. Perhaps some of them think they're immortal. [* There are some suburban stations on the short-haul railway lines, but not many and apart from the river-crossing lines and the line in from Southport through the coastal stations, hardly anyone uses trains. That applies particularly to people living within the city boundaries.] |
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Exclusive: Brits on bikes as fitness app data shows pandemic boom
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 11:33:45 AM UTC+1, Bod wrote:
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Exclusive: Brits on bikes as fitness app data shows pandemic boom
On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 at 13:45:36 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 23/09/2020 11:33, Bod wrote: LONDON (Reuters) - Active travel is booming in Britain as millions of commuters, shoppers and schoolchildren get on their bikes to avoid confined spaces on public transport during the COVID-19 pandemic, data from the fitness tracker app Strava showed on Wednesday. The city of Liverpool saw the greatest year-on-year rise in cycling, with an increase of more than 220% for people taking at least one trip by bike. The current sheer risk of travelling by bus (Liverpool has no suburban rail network to speak of*) is surely enough to persuade people to consider all the alternatives. I bet you there has been a large percentage increase in car journeys and (short-ish) journeys on foot too. The safest modes are driving/motorcycling, cycling and walking. But... "an increase of more than 220% for people taking at least one trip by bike"... What does it even mean? "Here, let me have a go of your bike, just down to the roundabout and back, to see what it's like..." then "Well, I got there, but I won't be doing it again" would count as part of the claimed 220%, wouldn't it? The UK data, seen exclusively by Reuters, also showed the peak of Britain’s cycling popularity growth surge came in May 2020, coinciding with the height of COVID-19 lockdown restrictions across Britain. https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-sp...-idUKKCN26D35C How anyone has the confidence to travel on a bus or an Underground train is a mystery. Perhaps some of them think they're immortal. [* There are some suburban stations on the short-haul railway lines, but not many and apart from the river-crossing lines and the line in from Southport through the coastal stations, hardly anyone uses trains. That applies particularly to people living within the city boundaries.] Is that because Liverpool Central is the busiest underground station in the UK and the 3rd overall busiest station? |
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On 23/09/2020 21:26, Mike Collins wrote:
On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 at 13:45:36 UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 23/09/2020 11:33, Bod wrote: LONDON (Reuters) - Active travel is booming in Britain as millions of commuters, shoppers and schoolchildren get on their bikes to avoid confined spaces on public transport during the COVID-19 pandemic, data from the fitness tracker app Strava showed on Wednesday. The city of Liverpool saw the greatest year-on-year rise in cycling, with an increase of more than 220% for people taking at least one trip by bike. The current sheer risk of travelling by bus (Liverpool has no suburban rail network to speak of*) is surely enough to persuade people to consider all the alternatives. I bet you there has been a large percentage increase in car journeys and (short-ish) journeys on foot too. The safest modes are driving/motorcycling, cycling and walking. But... "an increase of more than 220% for people taking at least one trip by bike"... What does it even mean? "Here, let me have a go of your bike, just down to the roundabout and back, to see what it's like..." then "Well, I got there, but I won't be doing it again" would count as part of the claimed 220%, wouldn't it? The UK data, seen exclusively by Reuters, also showed the peak of Britain’s cycling popularity growth surge came in May 2020, coinciding with the height of COVID-19 lockdown restrictions across Britain. https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-sp...-idUKKCN26D35C How anyone has the confidence to travel on a bus or an Underground train is a mystery. Perhaps some of them think they're immortal. [* There are some suburban stations on the short-haul railway lines, but not many and apart from the river-crossing lines and the line in from Southport through the coastal stations, hardly anyone uses trains. That applies particularly to people living within the city boundaries.] Is that because Liverpool Central is the busiest underground station in the UK and the 3rd overall busiest station? No, it isn't, because it isn't. Have you ever travelled to or from it? When I lived in Wirral for a while, I used that station six days a week. Although it provides nowadays provides links via an underground loop line to two other city centre station termini (to the extent that Exchange Station can be said to still exist), these almost exclusively link to destinations some way beyond the city boundary, especially to the north (where the city boundary is little more than three miles away) and the east (where it is only about five miles away). The city extends somewhat further to the south-east than to the north or east, so there are a few stations within the city out in that direction, but the majority of travel is from the termini to places some way beyond the city boundary (and to the west, the city boundary is half-way across, or under, the river). On the question of the claim about its position in the underground station hierarchy, could Liverpool Central possibly be a busier underground station than (say) London Victoria on the Victoria Line, District Line and Circle Line - so busy that at rush hour, access to the platforms is routinely blocked for safety ? And busier than King's Cross / St Pancras with its ninety-eight million journeys per year? Does Liverpool Central *really* do more than 1,880,000 journeys a week (which would have to be the case for it to be busier than KC/SP)? Take a look at: https://www.mylondon.news/news/zone-1-news/10-busiest-stations-london-underground-17197892 Even the tenth busiest LU station has nearly forty-nine million journeys a year (nearly a million a week). Wikipedia has several interesting things to say about Central Station. One is that it has 5,217,547 "journeys per platform" per year, which is an oddly-phrased claim, especially when considered against King's Cross / St Pancras and its nearly one hundred million journeys per annum. Of what validity is the real (and much smaller) number, quoted as circa 14.6 million pa, measured against a spurious figure such as the number of platforms? KC/SP handles nearly seven times as many journeys. Liverpool's daily railway use (as opposed to inter-city journeys) is nothing like as significant as a non-credible claim such as "busiest underground station in the UK" would have one believe. Most people travel by car or bus. Very few city residents travel around by train. One reason for that is clearly given on the same Wikipedia page, which says: QUOTE: Both lines on the Merseyrail network, the Northern Line and the Wirral Line, serve the station. On the Northern Line, off-peak service level is as follows: 4 trains per hour to Southport 4 trains per hour to Ormskirk 4 trains per hour to Kirkby 4 trains per hour to Hunts Cross via Liverpool South Parkway [ ... ] On the Wirral Line, off-peak service level is as follows: 4 trains per hour to New Brighton 4 trains per hour to West Kirby 4 trains per hour to Chester 2 trains per hour to Ellesmere Port There are also extra services between Liverpool Central and Hooton during peak times. ENDQUOTE Southport, Ormskirk, Kirkby, New Brighton, West Kirby, Chester, Hooton and Ellesmere Port are, as I am sure you will be aware, some way outside the city (Kirkby is the nearest, but even that is several miles beyond the boundary). The only stations in that list which are within the city are Hunts Cross and South Parkway. Intermediate stations (there are a few within the boundaries) are not well used. It is, however, true that there is significant commuter rail traffic from the direction of Southport and under the river from the Wirral stations, but not from residential area of the city itself. In all the years I lived in Liverpool and nearby, I never had a single social contact who lived in the city and travelled regularly by train. Not one. If you asked someone whether they would use a train to get to the city-centre, you would get a blank look and be asked how that would be possible when there wasn't a station anywhere near their home. Rail-commuting is for Sandgrounders and those resident in The Debtors' Retreat. |
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Exclusive: Brits on bikes as fitness app data shows pandemic boom
On Thursday, 24 September 2020 at 10:58:26 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 23/09/2020 21:26, Mike Collins wrote: On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 at 13:45:36 UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 23/09/2020 11:33, Bod wrote: LONDON (Reuters) - Active travel is booming in Britain as millions of commuters, shoppers and schoolchildren get on their bikes to avoid confined spaces on public transport during the COVID-19 pandemic, data from the fitness tracker app Strava showed on Wednesday. The city of Liverpool saw the greatest year-on-year rise in cycling, with an increase of more than 220% for people taking at least one trip by bike. The current sheer risk of travelling by bus (Liverpool has no suburban rail network to speak of*) is surely enough to persuade people to consider all the alternatives. I bet you there has been a large percentage increase in car journeys and (short-ish) journeys on foot too. The safest modes are driving/motorcycling, cycling and walking. But... "an increase of more than 220% for people taking at least one trip by bike"... What does it even mean? "Here, let me have a go of your bike, just down to the roundabout and back, to see what it's like..." then "Well, I got there, but I won't be doing it again" would count as part of the claimed 220%, wouldn't it? The UK data, seen exclusively by Reuters, also showed the peak of Britain’s cycling popularity growth surge came in May 2020, coinciding with the height of COVID-19 lockdown restrictions across Britain. https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-sp...-idUKKCN26D35C How anyone has the confidence to travel on a bus or an Underground train is a mystery. Perhaps some of them think they're immortal. [* There are some suburban stations on the short-haul railway lines, but not many and apart from the river-crossing lines and the line in from Southport through the coastal stations, hardly anyone uses trains. That applies particularly to people living within the city boundaries.] Is that because Liverpool Central is the busiest underground station in the UK and the 3rd overall busiest station? No, it isn't, because it isn't. Have you ever travelled to or from it? When I lived in Wirral for a while, I used that station six days a week. Although it provides nowadays provides links via an underground loop line to two other city centre station termini (to the extent that Exchange Station can be said to still exist), these almost exclusively link to destinations some way beyond the city boundary, especially to the north (where the city boundary is little more than three miles away) and the east (where it is only about five miles away). The city extends somewhat further to the south-east than to the north or east, so there are a few stations within the city out in that direction, but the majority of travel is from the termini to places some way beyond the city boundary (and to the west, the city boundary is half-way across, or under, the river). On the question of the claim about its position in the underground station hierarchy, could Liverpool Central possibly be a busier underground station than (say) London Victoria on the Victoria Line, District Line and Circle Line - so busy that at rush hour, access to the platforms is routinely blocked for safety ? And busier than King's Cross / St Pancras with its ninety-eight million journeys per year? Does Liverpool Central *really* do more than 1,880,000 journeys a week (which would have to be the case for it to be busier than KC/SP)? Take a look at: https://www.mylondon.news/news/zone-1-news/10-busiest-stations-london-underground-17197892 Even the tenth busiest LU station has nearly forty-nine million journeys a year (nearly a million a week). Wikipedia has several interesting things to say about Central Station. One is that it has 5,217,547 "journeys per platform" per year, which is an oddly-phrased claim, especially when considered against King's Cross / St Pancras and its nearly one hundred million journeys per annum. Of what validity is the real (and much smaller) number, quoted as circa 14.6 million pa, measured against a spurious figure such as the number of platforms? KC/SP handles nearly seven times as many journeys. Liverpool's daily railway use (as opposed to inter-city journeys) is nothing like as significant as a non-credible claim such as "busiest underground station in the UK" would have one believe. Most people travel by car or bus. Very few city residents travel around by train. One reason for that is clearly given on the same Wikipedia page, which says: QUOTE: Both lines on the Merseyrail network, the Northern Line and the Wirral Line, serve the station. On the Northern Line, off-peak service level is as follows: 4 trains per hour to Southport 4 trains per hour to Ormskirk 4 trains per hour to Kirkby 4 trains per hour to Hunts Cross via Liverpool South Parkway [ ... ] On the Wirral Line, off-peak service level is as follows: 4 trains per hour to New Brighton 4 trains per hour to West Kirby 4 trains per hour to Chester 2 trains per hour to Ellesmere Port There are also extra services between Liverpool Central and Hooton during peak times. ENDQUOTE Southport, Ormskirk, Kirkby, New Brighton, West Kirby, Chester, Hooton and Ellesmere Port are, as I am sure you will be aware, some way outside the city (Kirkby is the nearest, but even that is several miles beyond the boundary). The only stations in that list which are within the city are Hunts Cross and South Parkway. Intermediate stations (there are a few within the boundaries) are not well used. It is, however, true that there is significant commuter rail traffic from the direction of Southport and under the river from the Wirral stations, but not from residential area of the city itself. In all the years I lived in Liverpool and nearby, I never had a single social contact who lived in the city and travelled regularly by train. Not one. If you asked someone whether they would use a train to get to the city-centre, you would get a blank look and be asked how that would be possible when there wasn't a station anywhere near their home. Rail-commuting is for Sandgrounders and those resident in The Debtors' Retreat. At least I made you do your own research for a change. This can only be a good thing even if your conclusions are wrong. Liverpool central is the busiest underground station in the UK for passengers per platform. It should be obvious, even to something from Liverpool, the more platforms you have the more passengers you have. When I lived on the Wirral I used Lime St in the morning and Central in the evening. |
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On 24/09/2020 15:06, Mike Collins wrote:
On Thursday, 24 September 2020 at 10:58:26 UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 23/09/2020 21:26, Mike Collins wrote: On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 at 13:45:36 UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 23/09/2020 11:33, Bod wrote: LONDON (Reuters) - Active travel is booming in Britain as millions of commuters, shoppers and schoolchildren get on their bikes to avoid confined spaces on public transport during the COVID-19 pandemic, data from the fitness tracker app Strava showed on Wednesday. The city of Liverpool saw the greatest year-on-year rise in cycling, with an increase of more than 220% for people taking at least one trip by bike. The current sheer risk of travelling by bus (Liverpool has no suburban rail network to speak of*) is surely enough to persuade people to consider all the alternatives. I bet you there has been a large percentage increase in car journeys and (short-ish) journeys on foot too. The safest modes are driving/motorcycling, cycling and walking. But... "an increase of more than 220% for people taking at least one trip by bike"... What does it even mean? "Here, let me have a go of your bike, just down to the roundabout and back, to see what it's like..." then "Well, I got there, but I won't be doing it again" would count as part of the claimed 220%, wouldn't it? The UK data, seen exclusively by Reuters, also showed the peak of Britain’s cycling popularity growth surge came in May 2020, coinciding with the height of COVID-19 lockdown restrictions across Britain. https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-sp...-idUKKCN26D35C How anyone has the confidence to travel on a bus or an Underground train is a mystery. Perhaps some of them think they're immortal. [* There are some suburban stations on the short-haul railway lines, but not many and apart from the river-crossing lines and the line in from Southport through the coastal stations, hardly anyone uses trains. That applies particularly to people living within the city boundaries.] Is that because Liverpool Central is the busiest underground station in the UK and the 3rd overall busiest station? No, it isn't, because it isn't. Have you ever travelled to or from it? When I lived in Wirral for a while, I used that station six days a week. Although it provides nowadays provides links via an underground loop line to two other city centre station termini (to the extent that Exchange Station can be said to still exist), these almost exclusively link to destinations some way beyond the city boundary, especially to the north (where the city boundary is little more than three miles away) and the east (where it is only about five miles away). The city extends somewhat further to the south-east than to the north or east, so there are a few stations within the city out in that direction, but the majority of travel is from the termini to places some way beyond the city boundary (and to the west, the city boundary is half-way across, or under, the river). On the question of the claim about its position in the underground station hierarchy, could Liverpool Central possibly be a busier underground station than (say) London Victoria on the Victoria Line, District Line and Circle Line - so busy that at rush hour, access to the platforms is routinely blocked for safety ? And busier than King's Cross / St Pancras with its ninety-eight million journeys per year? Does Liverpool Central *really* do more than 1,880,000 journeys a week (which would have to be the case for it to be busier than KC/SP)? Take a look at: https://www.mylondon.news/news/zone-1-news/10-busiest-stations-london-underground-17197892 Even the tenth busiest LU station has nearly forty-nine million journeys a year (nearly a million a week). Wikipedia has several interesting things to say about Central Station. One is that it has 5,217,547 "journeys per platform" per year, which is an oddly-phrased claim, especially when considered against King's Cross / St Pancras and its nearly one hundred million journeys per annum. Of what validity is the real (and much smaller) number, quoted as circa 14.6 million pa, measured against a spurious figure such as the number of platforms? KC/SP handles nearly seven times as many journeys. Liverpool's daily railway use (as opposed to inter-city journeys) is nothing like as significant as a non-credible claim such as "busiest underground station in the UK" would have one believe. Most people travel by car or bus. Very few city residents travel around by train. One reason for that is clearly given on the same Wikipedia page, which says: QUOTE: Both lines on the Merseyrail network, the Northern Line and the Wirral Line, serve the station. On the Northern Line, off-peak service level is as follows: 4 trains per hour to Southport 4 trains per hour to Ormskirk 4 trains per hour to Kirkby 4 trains per hour to Hunts Cross via Liverpool South Parkway [ ... ] On the Wirral Line, off-peak service level is as follows: 4 trains per hour to New Brighton 4 trains per hour to West Kirby 4 trains per hour to Chester 2 trains per hour to Ellesmere Port There are also extra services between Liverpool Central and Hooton during peak times. ENDQUOTE Southport, Ormskirk, Kirkby, New Brighton, West Kirby, Chester, Hooton and Ellesmere Port are, as I am sure you will be aware, some way outside the city (Kirkby is the nearest, but even that is several miles beyond the boundary). The only stations in that list which are within the city are Hunts Cross and South Parkway. Intermediate stations (there are a few within the boundaries) are not well used. It is, however, true that there is significant commuter rail traffic from the direction of Southport and under the river from the Wirral stations, but not from residential area of the city itself. In all the years I lived in Liverpool and nearby, I never had a single social contact who lived in the city and travelled regularly by train. Not one. If you asked someone whether they would use a train to get to the city-centre, you would get a blank look and be asked how that would be possible when there wasn't a station anywhere near their home. Rail-commuting is for Sandgrounders and those resident in The Debtors' Retreat. At least I made you do your own research for a change. This can only be a good thing even if your conclusions are wrong. Liverpool central is the busiest underground station in the UK for passengers per platform. "Per platform" is an entirely spurious metric. I'd love Liverpool to *hold* a record of that sort, but it doesn't. KC/SP with nearly a hundred million trips a year... that would take some beating. It should be obvious, even to something from Liverpool, the more platforms you have the more passengers you have. That does not follow at all. Baker Street LU Station has ten platforms (compared, for instance, to Oxford Circus's six) but is not even in the top ten busiest LU stations. The number of platforms is largely a function of how many underground lines intersect. When I lived on the Wirral I used Lime St in the morning and Central in the evening. That Wirral line (with Liverpool stations at James Street and Central Stations) has always been a great asset - for the people of the Wirral. Not so much for the people of Liverpool itself. |
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On Thursday, 24 September 2020 at 16:21:05 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 24/09/2020 15:06, Mike Collins wrote: On Thursday, 24 September 2020 at 10:58:26 UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 23/09/2020 21:26, Mike Collins wrote: On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 at 13:45:36 UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 23/09/2020 11:33, Bod wrote: LONDON (Reuters) - Active travel is booming in Britain as millions of commuters, shoppers and schoolchildren get on their bikes to avoid confined spaces on public transport during the COVID-19 pandemic, data from the fitness tracker app Strava showed on Wednesday. The city of Liverpool saw the greatest year-on-year rise in cycling, with an increase of more than 220% for people taking at least one trip by bike. The current sheer risk of travelling by bus (Liverpool has no suburban rail network to speak of*) is surely enough to persuade people to consider all the alternatives. I bet you there has been a large percentage increase in car journeys and (short-ish) journeys on foot too. The safest modes are driving/motorcycling, cycling and walking. But... "an increase of more than 220% for people taking at least one trip by bike"... What does it even mean? "Here, let me have a go of your bike, just down to the roundabout and back, to see what it's like..." then "Well, I got there, but I won't be doing it again" would count as part of the claimed 220%, wouldn't it? The UK data, seen exclusively by Reuters, also showed the peak of Britain’s cycling popularity growth surge came in May 2020, coinciding with the height of COVID-19 lockdown restrictions across Britain. https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-sp...-idUKKCN26D35C How anyone has the confidence to travel on a bus or an Underground train is a mystery. Perhaps some of them think they're immortal. [* There are some suburban stations on the short-haul railway lines, but not many and apart from the river-crossing lines and the line in from Southport through the coastal stations, hardly anyone uses trains. That applies particularly to people living within the city boundaries.] Is that because Liverpool Central is the busiest underground station in the UK and the 3rd overall busiest station? No, it isn't, because it isn't. Have you ever travelled to or from it? When I lived in Wirral for a while, I used that station six days a week. Although it provides nowadays provides links via an underground loop line to two other city centre station termini (to the extent that Exchange Station can be said to still exist), these almost exclusively link to destinations some way beyond the city boundary, especially to the north (where the city boundary is little more than three miles away) and the east (where it is only about five miles away). The city extends somewhat further to the south-east than to the north or east, so there are a few stations within the city out in that direction, but the majority of travel is from the termini to places some way beyond the city boundary (and to the west, the city boundary is half-way across, or under, the river). On the question of the claim about its position in the underground station hierarchy, could Liverpool Central possibly be a busier underground station than (say) London Victoria on the Victoria Line, District Line and Circle Line - so busy that at rush hour, access to the platforms is routinely blocked for safety ? And busier than King's Cross / St Pancras with its ninety-eight million journeys per year? Does Liverpool Central *really* do more than 1,880,000 journeys a week (which would have to be the case for it to be busier than KC/SP)? Take a look at: https://www.mylondon.news/news/zone-1-news/10-busiest-stations-london-underground-17197892 Even the tenth busiest LU station has nearly forty-nine million journeys a year (nearly a million a week). Wikipedia has several interesting things to say about Central Station. One is that it has 5,217,547 "journeys per platform" per year, which is an oddly-phrased claim, especially when considered against King's Cross / St Pancras and its nearly one hundred million journeys per annum. Of what validity is the real (and much smaller) number, quoted as circa 14.6 million pa, measured against a spurious figure such as the number of platforms? KC/SP handles nearly seven times as many journeys. Liverpool's daily railway use (as opposed to inter-city journeys) is nothing like as significant as a non-credible claim such as "busiest underground station in the UK" would have one believe. Most people travel by car or bus. Very few city residents travel around by train. One reason for that is clearly given on the same Wikipedia page, which says: QUOTE: Both lines on the Merseyrail network, the Northern Line and the Wirral Line, serve the station. On the Northern Line, off-peak service level is as follows: 4 trains per hour to Southport 4 trains per hour to Ormskirk 4 trains per hour to Kirkby 4 trains per hour to Hunts Cross via Liverpool South Parkway [ ... ] On the Wirral Line, off-peak service level is as follows: 4 trains per hour to New Brighton 4 trains per hour to West Kirby 4 trains per hour to Chester 2 trains per hour to Ellesmere Port There are also extra services between Liverpool Central and Hooton during peak times. ENDQUOTE Southport, Ormskirk, Kirkby, New Brighton, West Kirby, Chester, Hooton and Ellesmere Port are, as I am sure you will be aware, some way outside the city (Kirkby is the nearest, but even that is several miles beyond the boundary). The only stations in that list which are within the city are Hunts Cross and South Parkway. Intermediate stations (there are a few within the boundaries) are not well used. It is, however, true that there is significant commuter rail traffic from the direction of Southport and under the river from the Wirral stations, but not from residential area of the city itself. In all the years I lived in Liverpool and nearby, I never had a single social contact who lived in the city and travelled regularly by train. Not one. If you asked someone whether they would use a train to get to the city-centre, you would get a blank look and be asked how that would be possible when there wasn't a station anywhere near their home. Rail-commuting is for Sandgrounders and those resident in The Debtors' Retreat. At least I made you do your own research for a change. This can only be a good thing even if your conclusions are wrong. Liverpool central is the busiest underground station in the UK for passengers per platform. "Per platform" is an entirely spurious metric. Heathrow is the busiest international airport but more passengers pass through LAX. I'd love Liverpool to *hold* a record Liverpool holds many records:- - Most thieves per square mile - Lowest intelligence per square mile - Lowest tax paid per square mile - Most benefits claimed per square mile - Most BO per square mile of that sort, but it doesn't. KC/SP with nearly a hundred million trips a year... that would take some beating. It should be obvious, even to something from Liverpool, the more platforms you have the more passengers you have. That does not follow at all. Baker Street LU Station has ten platforms (compared, for instance, to Oxford Circus's six) but is not even in the top ten busiest LU stations. The number of platforms is largely a function of how many underground lines intersect. When I lived on the Wirral I used Lime St in the morning and Central in the evening. That Wirral line (with Liverpool stations at James Street and Central Stations) has always been a great asset - for the people of the Wirral. Not so much for the people of Liverpool itself. That would be a valid argument if the 'people' of Liverpool paid any tax, Liverpool is subsidised by the Wirral. |
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