Cyclist dies after crashing into stationary van

On Monday, 2 October 2017 14:32:57 UTC+1, Simon Jester wrote:
On Monday, October 2, 2017 at 4:17:36 AM UTC+1, Bod wrote:
On 01/10/2017 23:28, JNugent wrote:
On 01/10/2017 22:27, Simon Jester wrote:

On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 9:18:23 AM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote:

http://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/ne...r-crash-531179


Maybe if we got rid of the notion that motorists have a 'right' to
litter public roads with their personal property this would not happen.

So that cyclists don't have to look where they're going, you mean?

After all, whatever happens to be in their way, no matter whether it's a
pedestrian on a zebra or pelicon, a bus at a bus stop, a taxi picking up
or dropping off punters, a van delivering to shops, a car stopped at red
lights, another cyclist proceeding across a junction at 90 degrees on a
green light or a brick wall on the dead end of a T-junction - has
absolutely no right to be there, does it?

Revealed: The UK roads where the most drivers are caught running red
lights - is one in your area?
The A523 in Macclesfield tops the list
184 drivers are caught every day failing to stop at red lights

A separate Esure survey suggests one in four motorists admit to running
a red light in the past year alone – equivalent to 9.3 million drivers.

Read mo
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/c...#ixzz4uJiol7dj


But it is Not-Their-Fault. The amber phase was too short, they were only doing 10%+2mph over the limit, they saw an unlit cyclist wearing dark clothing 200 miles away and had to take evasive action.

I think you mean 10%+2mph + 10%+2mph + 10mph for being an above average driver.

On Monday, 2 October 2017 12:15:54 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 02/10/2017 04:17, Bod wrote:

On 01/10/2017 23:28, JNugent wrote:
On 01/10/2017 22:27, Simon Jester wrote:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 9:18:23 AM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote:

http://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/ne...r-crash-531179

Maybe if we got rid of the notion that motorists have a 'right' to
litter public roads with their personal property this would not happen.

On 02/10/2017 22:53, Paul George wrote:
On Monday, 2 October 2017 12:15:54 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 02/10/2017 04:17, Bod wrote:

On 01/10/2017 23:28, JNugent wrote:
On 01/10/2017 22:27, Simon Jester wrote:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 9:18:23 AM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote:

http://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/ne...r-crash-531179

Maybe if we got rid of the notion that motorists have a 'right' to
litter public roads with their personal property this would not happen.

So that cyclists don't have to look where they're going, you mean?

After all, whatever happens to be in their way, no matter whether it's
a pedestrian on a zebra or pelicon, a bus at a bus stop, a taxi
picking up or dropping off punters, a van delivering to shops, a car
stopped at red lights, another cyclist proceeding across a junction at
90 degrees on a green light or a brick wall on the dead end of a
T-junction - has absolutely no right to be there, does it?

Revealed: The UK roads where the most drivers are caught running red
lights - is one in your area?
The A523 in Macclesfield tops the list
184 drivers are caught every day failing to stop at red lights

A separate Esure survey suggests one in four motorists admit to running
a red light in the past year alone – equivalent to 9.3 million drivers.

Read mo
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/c...#ixzz4uJiol7dj

What does any of that have to do with idiotic cyclists running into
stationary objects?

Mandating all cars are painted fluorescent pink would be a good start.

Are cyclists all colour-blind, then?

And don't they hit brick walls just as often as cars, as well as buses,
bin-lorries, lamp-posts, refuse skips, railings, barbed-wire fences
and... er... people?

On 02/10/17 14:32, Simon Jester wrote:

But it is Not-Their-Fault. The amber phase was too short, they were
only doing 10%+2mph over the limit, they saw an unlit cyclist wearing
dark clothing 200 miles away and had to take evasive action.

Reminds of the driver that got let off because an expert witness said
that a 5 second delay was acceptable for a driver. And the cyclist that
went to jail because the expert thought he could have stopped in 3.8
seconds.

On Monday, October 2, 2017 at 10:53:32 PM UTC+1, Paul George wrote:
On Monday, 2 October 2017 12:15:54 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 02/10/2017 04:17, Bod wrote:

On 01/10/2017 23:28, JNugent wrote:
On 01/10/2017 22:27, Simon Jester wrote:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 9:18:23 AM UTC+1, MrCheerful wrote:

http://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/ne...r-crash-531179

Maybe if we got rid of the notion that motorists have a 'right' to
litter public roads with their personal property this would not happen.

So that cyclists don't have to look where they're going, you mean?

After all, whatever happens to be in their way, no matter whether it's
a pedestrian on a zebra or pelicon, a bus at a bus stop, a taxi
picking up or dropping off punters, a van delivering to shops, a car
stopped at red lights, another cyclist proceeding across a junction at
90 degrees on a green light or a brick wall on the dead end of a
T-junction - has absolutely no right to be there, does it?

Revealed: The UK roads where the most drivers are caught running red
lights - is one in your area?
The A523 in Macclesfield tops the list
184 drivers are caught every day failing to stop at red lights

A separate Esure survey suggests one in four motorists admit to running
a red light in the past year alone – equivalent to 9.3 million drivers.

Read mo
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/c...#ixzz4uJiol7dj

What does any of that have to do with idiotic cyclists running into
stationary objects?

Mandating all cars are painted fluorescent pink would be a good start.

Stop poking the Bedlam patients, it's cruel.