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URGENT! TORN BIKE FLIGHT HARD CASE
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Just discovered a very urgent problem. I have a Performance Bike hard case ("PERFORMANCE CARGO CASE" is embossed on the case). It has 4 riveted metal clips that hold the two halves together. The material around one of the clips on one of the halves is partially torn. I'm leaving on a trip w/ said case on Tue morning (08 Aug 06). I would like to repair the tear & have it cured prior my departure. Does anyone know what material the case is made of? The glue / epoxy must adhere to the black material of the case in addition to the plated steel clip. (Of course I will grind most of the plating away & roughen up the case material prior to application of the repair material) And more importantly, if fiberglass & epoxy will successfully repair it? If fiberglass & epoxy will work, can I accelerate the curing by putting a heat lamp on it? I know, I know, I should use carbon fiber to save weight & be fashionable. After all, if spoke tension gauges are made of CF? But due to the difficulty of quickly finding CF; I think I'll pass this time ;-) Many thanks for quick answers, John |
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john wrote: Hi all Just discovered a very urgent problem. I have a Performance Bike hard case ("PERFORMANCE CARGO CASE" is embossed on the case). It has 4 riveted metal clips that hold the two halves together. The material around one of the clips on one of the halves is partially torn. I'm leaving on a trip w/ said case on Tue morning (08 Aug 06). I would like to repair the tear & have it cured prior my departure. Does anyone know what material the case is made of? The glue / epoxy must adhere to the black material of the case in addition to the plated steel clip. (Of course I will grind most of the plating away & roughen up the case material prior to application of the repair material) And more importantly, if fiberglass & epoxy will successfully repair it? If fiberglass & epoxy will work, can I accelerate the curing by putting a heat lamp on it? I know, I know, I should use carbon fiber to save weight & be fashionable. After all, if spoke tension gauges are made of CF? But due to the difficulty of quickly finding CF; I think I'll pass this time ;-) Many thanks for quick answers, John Right after I posted this I went to Performance's page for my case: http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...slisearch=true I also found that it's made of polyethylene. I have no idea what 'glue' sticks well to polyethylene. This is an area where I have great ignorance. Any recommendation for a good source of the hierarchy of what sticks best to what? Again, Thanks for any quick answers, John |
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"john" wrote: Hi all Just discovered a very urgent problem. why don't you just buy some heavy duty straps and secure your case with that for transport. you'll have plenty of time to fix it properly when you're back. Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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john wrote:
john wrote: Hi all Just discovered a very urgent problem. I have a Performance Bike hard case ("PERFORMANCE CARGO CASE" is embossed on the case). It has 4 riveted metal clips that hold the two halves together. The material around one of the clips on one of the halves is partially torn. I'm leaving on a trip w/ said case on Tue morning (08 Aug 06). I would like to repair the tear & have it cured prior my departure. Does anyone know what material the case is made of? The glue / epoxy must adhere to the black material of the case in addition to the plated steel clip. (Of course I will grind most of the plating away & roughen up the case material prior to application of the repair material) And more importantly, if fiberglass & epoxy will successfully repair it? If fiberglass & epoxy will work, can I accelerate the curing by putting a heat lamp on it? I know, I know, I should use carbon fiber to save weight & be fashionable. After all, if spoke tension gauges are made of CF? But due to the difficulty of quickly finding CF; I think I'll pass this time ;-) Many thanks for quick answers, John Right after I posted this I went to Performance's page for my case: http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...slisearch=true I also found that it's made of polyethylene. I have no idea what 'glue' sticks well to polyethylene. This is an area where I have great ignorance. Any recommendation for a good source of the hierarchy of what sticks best to what? Don't know of any glue suitable for polyethylene (it may exist, but I haven't met it). You might try to sandwich the torn case between sheets of some material across the tear and rivet together, or even "sew" with some suitable cord. There's always duct tape. The strap idea someone posted was good too. Good luck, Mark J. |
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M. Bakunin wrote: HiIn article .com, "john" wrote: Hi all Just discovered a very urgent problem. why don't you just buy some heavy duty straps and secure your case with that for transport. you'll have plenty of time to fix it properly when you're back. Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com That's a good idea. I have several Anca (sp?) motorcycle tie down straps. I'll duct tape them to the case to keep them from slipping off end wise, if I can't fix it before departure. Per the research I've been doing online polyethylene don't like to stick too much of nuttin. Thanks, John |
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Yep, strap it in an "H" formation.
"john" wrote in message ups.com... M. Bakunin wrote: HiIn article .com, "john" wrote: Hi all Just discovered a very urgent problem. why don't you just buy some heavy duty straps and secure your case with that for transport. you'll have plenty of time to fix it properly when you're back. Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com That's a good idea. I have several Anca (sp?) motorcycle tie down straps. I'll duct tape them to the case to keep them from slipping off end wise, if I can't fix it before departure. Per the research I've been doing online polyethylene don't like to stick too much of nuttin. Thanks, John |
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URGENT! TORN BIKE FLIGHT HARD CASE
Mark wrote: Don't know of any glue suitable for polyethylene (it may exist, but I haven't met it). You might try to sandwich the torn case between sheets of some material across the tear and rivet together, or even "sew" with some suitable cord. There's always duct tape. The strap idea someone posted was good too. Good luck, Mark J. Thanks for your reply, Mark I just realized what to do. Do the strap thing to get there. Then I'll use your sandwich idea. After arrival I will have access to a shop. I'll fabricate a strip of sheet metal to fit across the convoluted inside of the case behind the clip & rerivet the clip to the strip. Then I'll rivet or screw the ends of the strip in double shear to the case. Thanks a million, John |
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john wrote: After arrival I will have access to a shop. I'll fabricate a strip of sheet metal to fit across the convoluted inside of the case behind the clip & rerivet the clip to the strip. Then I'll rivet or screw the ends of the strip in double shear to the case. If you have the equipment and skills, why not just go all Zero Halliburton on its ass? Make a custom case out of aluminum. --Blair |
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john wrote: I just realized what to do. Do the strap thing to get there. Then I'll use your sandwich idea. After arrival I will have access to a shop. I'll fabricate a strip of sheet metal to fit across the convoluted inside of the case behind the clip & rerivet the clip to the strip. Then I'll rivet or screw the ends of the strip in double shear to the case. Thanks a million, John What I like to do in these situations is use fiberglass reinforced epoxy to make the patch. After the epoxy cures you can install rivets in strategic locations to ensure it can't break free. This will fit better than a fabricated piece of sheet metal and it won't matter if the epoxy bond breaks free of the plastic because the rivets will hold everything together. You can make it even stronger with a sheet of fiberglass on each side of the repair. You can get everything you need at Wal-mart. The fiberglass is in the automotive section. The epoxy and rivets are in hardware. Use some runny epoxy to get the fiberglass fully wetted. |
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What I like to do in these situations is use fiberglass reinforced
epoxy to make the patch. After the epoxy cures you can install rivets in strategic locations to ensure it can't break free. This will fit better than a fabricated piece of sheet metal and it won't matter if the epoxy bond breaks free of the plastic because the rivets will hold everything together. You can make it even stronger with a sheet of fiberglass on each side of the repair. You can get everything you need at Wal-mart. The fiberglass is in the automotive section. The epoxy and rivets are in hardware. Use some runny epoxy to get the fiberglass fully wetted. I don't think it will work with polyethylene (PE). What i remember from when i used to windsurf is there are two kinds of material: themoplastics (PE) and thermoharders (polyesther or epoxy resin with glassfiber, carbon etc.). The way to repair PE back then was to melt it together. "amakyonin" wrote in message oups.com... john wrote: I just realized what to do. Do the strap thing to get there. Then I'll use your sandwich idea. After arrival I will have access to a shop. I'll fabricate a strip of sheet metal to fit across the convoluted inside of the case behind the clip & rerivet the clip to the strip. Then I'll rivet or screw the ends of the strip in double shear to the case. Thanks a million, John What I like to do in these situations is use fiberglass reinforced epoxy to make the patch. After the epoxy cures you can install rivets in strategic locations to ensure it can't break free. This will fit better than a fabricated piece of sheet metal and it won't matter if the epoxy bond breaks free of the plastic because the rivets will hold everything together. You can make it even stronger with a sheet of fiberglass on each side of the repair. You can get everything you need at Wal-mart. The fiberglass is in the automotive section. The epoxy and rivets are in hardware. Use some runny epoxy to get the fiberglass fully wetted. |
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