Shifters

On 9/30/2014 7:07 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 23:23:30 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote:

Personally, I think I'd just use a bar-end shifter on the left, and use
the left STI lever only for braking. Didn't Lance proclaim that to be
acceptable?

But I don't have a spare bar-end shifter :-)

Holy cow! How can you live like that, without wooden boxes of junk bike
parts??

OK, you can go to http://www.rivbike.com/Accessories-s/134.htm and get
what you need in several different ways. You'll also be satisfying Jay
by keeping the economy going, and you'll also raise the world's
quirkiness level. Win win win!


--
- Frank Krygowski

On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 6:27:20 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/29/2014 9:16 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote:



I presently have a road bike with Shimano STI manual shifters

(Brifters), 9 speed, with a two speed, compact, chain wheel and would

like to change to a 3 speed chain wheel but of course the present 2

speed Brifter wouldn't shift three speeds.



I have two other bikes with three speed chain wheels and I can get a

(to me) better range of gears with the three as opposed to the compact

setup.



The best option, which is also the most expensive, would be to buy a

new set of STI shifters, but are there any options?



I've been thinking of a friction, bar mounted, front shifter and use

the existing STI front shifter only as a brake. Another option might

be to use a MTB shifter (click, click, click), which would look a

little dorky.



Has anyone ever done a conversion similar to this? Did you like it?

Are there other options?

--

Cheers,



John B.





There are oodles of options [1] but if you don't mind dorky

aesthetic, I agree that an MTB thumb shifter would be the

simplest and cheapest solution.



[1] The Sidetrack Gizmo from 1992 seems to be unsearchable

on the InterWebs. It was an in-line mini shift lever for

'one more click'.

And I assume that he has checked to see if his existing lever will shift a triple? All (most of?) the Ultegra 9sp shifters were triple compatible. If he has old Ultegra or below, he may already have triple compatibility.

-- Jay Beattie.

On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 10:08:19 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 9/30/2014 7:07 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote:

On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 23:23:30 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote:



Personally, I think I'd just use a bar-end shifter on the left, and use

the left STI lever only for braking. Didn't Lance proclaim that to be

acceptable?



But I don't have a spare bar-end shifter :-)



Holy cow! How can you live like that, without wooden boxes of junk bike

parts??


--

- Frank Krygowski

Funny, but I do have spare bar-end shifters. Had an old Trek 520 touring bike and the bar-end shifters wore out. The clicks were no longer distinct. So in my various upgrades, I replaced the frame and fork with a Redline Conquest Tour frame and fork, and replaced the shifters with some Shimano 105 STI 10 speed shifters, and replaced almost everything else as well except the wheels and crank arms and bottom bracket.

On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 11:08:19 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 9/30/2014 7:07 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 23:23:30 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote:

Personally, I think I'd just use a bar-end shifter on the left, and use
the left STI lever only for braking. Didn't Lance proclaim that to be
acceptable?

But I don't have a spare bar-end shifter :-)

Holy cow! How can you live like that, without wooden boxes of junk bike
parts??

OK, you can go to http://www.rivbike.com/Accessories-s/134.htm and get
what you need in several different ways. You'll also be satisfying Jay
by keeping the economy going, and you'll also raise the world's
quirkiness level. Win win win!


Well, I've got some "junk box" parts, just no bar end shifters ...
they are on my "knock-about" bike.

As for the world's economy, I thought bicycles were supposed to be
"cheap transportation" :-)
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:51:34 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie
wrote:

On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 6:27:20 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/29/2014 9:16 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote:



I presently have a road bike with Shimano STI manual shifters

(Brifters), 9 speed, with a two speed, compact, chain wheel and would

like to change to a 3 speed chain wheel but of course the present 2

speed Brifter wouldn't shift three speeds.



I have two other bikes with three speed chain wheels and I can get a

(to me) better range of gears with the three as opposed to the compact

setup.



The best option, which is also the most expensive, would be to buy a

new set of STI shifters, but are there any options?



I've been thinking of a friction, bar mounted, front shifter and use

the existing STI front shifter only as a brake. Another option might

be to use a MTB shifter (click, click, click), which would look a

little dorky.



Has anyone ever done a conversion similar to this? Did you like it?

Are there other options?

--

Cheers,



John B.





There are oodles of options [1] but if you don't mind dorky

aesthetic, I agree that an MTB thumb shifter would be the

simplest and cheapest solution.



[1] The Sidetrack Gizmo from 1992 seems to be unsearchable

on the InterWebs. It was an in-line mini shift lever for

'one more click'.

And I assume that he has checked to see if his existing lever will shift a triple? All (most of?) the Ultegra 9sp shifters were triple compatible. If he has old Ultegra or below, he may already have triple compatibility.

-- Jay Beattie.

The shifters do have "three" clicks but they seem to be "low", "high"
and another "high" to "trim" the shifter depending on what cog the
chain is on. I'll have to try them to see whether they will shift a
triple. You may have saved the day :-)

--
Cheers,

John B.

On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 07:05:54 +0100, Phil W Lee
wrote:

John B. Slocomb considered Wed, 01 Oct 2014
07:10:26 +0700 the perfect time to write:

On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 11:08:19 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 9/30/2014 7:07 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 23:23:30 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote:

Personally, I think I'd just use a bar-end shifter on the left, and use
the left STI lever only for braking. Didn't Lance proclaim that to be
acceptable?

But I don't have a spare bar-end shifter :-)

Holy cow! How can you live like that, without wooden boxes of junk bike
parts??

OK, you can go to http://www.rivbike.com/Accessories-s/134.htm and get
what you need in several different ways. You'll also be satisfying Jay
by keeping the economy going, and you'll also raise the world's
quirkiness level. Win win win!


Well, I've got some "junk box" parts, just no bar end shifters ...
they are on my "knock-about" bike.

As for the world's economy, I thought bicycles were supposed to be
"cheap transportation" :-)

Someone, somewhere, will probably be selling some on an online auction
site.
Just remember to allow for the shipping cost in the calculation of
what it's worth to you.

That is one of the reasons I seldom buy things from the U.S. Unless
you very carefully designate the shipping method you can easily pay as
much for the shipping as for the goods.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 5:16:04 PM UTC-7, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:51:34 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie

wrote:



On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 6:27:20 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:

On 9/29/2014 9:16 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote:







I presently have a road bike with Shimano STI manual shifters



(Brifters), 9 speed, with a two speed, compact, chain wheel and would



like to change to a 3 speed chain wheel but of course the present 2



speed Brifter wouldn't shift three speeds.







I have two other bikes with three speed chain wheels and I can get a



(to me) better range of gears with the three as opposed to the compact



setup.







The best option, which is also the most expensive, would be to buy a



new set of STI shifters, but are there any options?







I've been thinking of a friction, bar mounted, front shifter and use



the existing STI front shifter only as a brake. Another option might



be to use a MTB shifter (click, click, click), which would look a



little dorky.







Has anyone ever done a conversion similar to this? Did you like it?



Are there other options?



--



Cheers,







John B.











There are oodles of options [1] but if you don't mind dorky



aesthetic, I agree that an MTB thumb shifter would be the



simplest and cheapest solution.







[1] The Sidetrack Gizmo from 1992 seems to be unsearchable



on the InterWebs. It was an in-line mini shift lever for



'one more click'.



And I assume that he has checked to see if his existing lever will shift a triple? All (most of?) the Ultegra 9sp shifters were triple compatible. If he has old Ultegra or below, he may already have triple compatibility.



-- Jay Beattie.



The shifters do have "three" clicks but they seem to be "low", "high"

and another "high" to "trim" the shifter depending on what cog the

chain is on. I'll have to try them to see whether they will shift a

triple. You may have saved the day :-)

FWIW, I used my old 9sp Ultegra shifters on my son's bike which I built with a 3X crank. Works perfectly. Relax your stop screws and see how far the FD swings.

-- Jay Beattie.

On Wed, 1 Oct 2014 07:15:22 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie
wrote:

On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 5:16:04 PM UTC-7, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:51:34 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie

wrote:



On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 6:27:20 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:

On 9/29/2014 9:16 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote:







I presently have a road bike with Shimano STI manual shifters



(Brifters), 9 speed, with a two speed, compact, chain wheel and would



like to change to a 3 speed chain wheel but of course the present 2



speed Brifter wouldn't shift three speeds.







I have two other bikes with three speed chain wheels and I can get a



(to me) better range of gears with the three as opposed to the compact



setup.







The best option, which is also the most expensive, would be to buy a



new set of STI shifters, but are there any options?







I've been thinking of a friction, bar mounted, front shifter and use



the existing STI front shifter only as a brake. Another option might



be to use a MTB shifter (click, click, click), which would look a



little dorky.







Has anyone ever done a conversion similar to this? Did you like it?



Are there other options?



--



Cheers,







John B.











There are oodles of options [1] but if you don't mind dorky



aesthetic, I agree that an MTB thumb shifter would be the



simplest and cheapest solution.







[1] The Sidetrack Gizmo from 1992 seems to be unsearchable



on the InterWebs. It was an in-line mini shift lever for



'one more click'.



And I assume that he has checked to see if his existing lever will shift a triple? All (most of?) the Ultegra 9sp shifters were triple compatible. If he has old Ultegra or below, he may already have triple compatibility.



-- Jay Beattie.



The shifters do have "three" clicks but they seem to be "low", "high"

and another "high" to "trim" the shifter depending on what cog the

chain is on. I'll have to try them to see whether they will shift a

triple. You may have saved the day :-)

FWIW, I used my old 9sp Ultegra shifters on my son's bike which I built with a 3X crank. Works perfectly. Relax your stop screws and see how far the FD swings.

-- Jay Beattie.

I shall. Just as soon as I get back to the place where the bike is
located :-) And thanks for the information.
--
Cheers,

John B.