Dyno Light

jbeattie schreef op 30-9-2014 6:26:
So, Western Bike Works had a 20% off sale, so I got a Shutter Precision PD-8 for about $110, which I thought was a smok'n deal. I have to find a rim and some appropriate spokes in my collection of junk downstairs, but I expect to put something together in the next week or so.

But I need a light. I would love to get the Supernova E3 triple, but I figure there has to be something available on the market that will do the trick but cheaper. I don't need no stink'n StVZO anything. Are there any second string lights that are good and not home brew. Maybe a Chinese knock off!

-- Jay Beattie.



You took the first step. Congratulations. Don't go cheap on your
headlight now. That would be stupid. If you love to get the Supernova E3
triple, get it. Safe up for it, get a second job, babysit, paint your
neighbours porch for money etc. etc.
Don't get the plastic stuff.

Lou

On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:56:57 AM UTC-5, wrote:
http://www.starbike.com/en/accessori...namo-lighting/



The above website is good for dynamo lights. I use two of the Busch&Mueller Cyo lights. Not sure which particular model. They are mounted on the fork blades on either side of the front hub. Powered by a Shimano dynamo hub from about 10 years ago. Lights are only 5-6 years old. The Cyo light is about $40. The Supernova Triple is about $160. The Schmidt is about $135. I've ordered from Starbike and a few other European websites and had good service and good prices.



I list the prices for the lights in US Dollars. On the website they are in Euros. But by the time you convert Euros to US Dollars at $1.26 per 1 Euro, AND remove the 17% Value Added Tax for USA residents who do not have to pay VAT, it comes out the listed Euros are the same as US Dollars. A 1 to 1 conversion more or less. Plus shipping charges.

unbeleiveable

On 9/29/2014 9:26 PM, jbeattie wrote:
So, Western Bike Works had a 20% off sale, so I got a Shutter Precision PD-8 for about $110, which I thought was a smok'n deal. I have to find a rim and some appropriate spokes in my collection of junk downstairs, but I expect to put something together in the next week or so.

But I need a light. I would love to get the Supernova E3 triple, but I figure there has to be something available on the market that will do the trick but cheaper. I don't need no stink'n StVZO anything. Are there any second string lights that are good and not home brew. Maybe a Chinese knock off!

You should get the Supernova E3 Triple.

There actually aren't a lot of choices. It's not that you don't need
StVZO, it's that StVZO is a bad idea because of the limitations it
imposes which are as illogical and dangerous in Germany as they are
here. But here you don't have to deal with them. If course neither does
anyone in Germany that buys the E3 Triple unless there is some extremely
unlikely event!

http://www.starbike.com/p/Supernova-E3-Triple-front-light-5330-en?currency=USD&vat=hide.

The only negative about the Supernova E3 Triple is that it lacks a flash
mode. The only dynamo light with a front flasher is the Planet Bike 1W
Blaze Dynamo.

On 01/10/14 15:03, sms wrote:
On 9/29/2014 9:26 PM, jbeattie wrote:
So, Western Bike Works had a 20% off sale, so I got a Shutter
Precision PD-8 for about $110, which I thought was a smok'n deal. I
have to find a rim and some appropriate spokes in my collection of
junk downstairs, but I expect to put something together in the next
week or so.

But I need a light. I would love to get the Supernova E3 triple, but
I figure there has to be something available on the market that will
do the trick but cheaper. I don't need no stink'n StVZO anything. Are
there any second string lights that are good and not home brew. Maybe
a Chinese knock off!

You should get the Supernova E3 Triple.

There actually aren't a lot of choices. It's not that you don't need
StVZO, it's that StVZO is a bad idea because of the limitations it
imposes which are as illogical and dangerous in Germany as they are
here. But here you don't have to deal with them. If course neither does
anyone in Germany that buys the E3 Triple unless there is some extremely
unlikely event!

Illogical and dangerous limitations like not emitting a blinding light
directed at other road users? Oh yes, I see why that's a bad idea. A
driver may actually still be able to see where they're going. How
terrible. Do they aim at you, Short Message Service, if they can still
see you?


http://www.starbike.com/p/Supernova-E3-Triple-front-light-5330-en?currency=USD&vat=hide.


The only negative about the Supernova E3 Triple is that it lacks a flash
mode. The only dynamo light with a front flasher is the Planet Bike 1W
Blaze Dynamo.

Funny, "Optically advanced lens provides superior beam pattern" makes it
sound like it has one of the very features you don't seem to like!

--
JS

On 10/1/2014 1:03 AM, sms wrote:
It's not that you don't need
StVZO, it's that StVZO is a bad idea because of the limitations it
imposes which are as illogical and dangerous in Germany as they are
here.

And yet _every other_ road vehicle in North America and Europe is sold
with headlights that meet optical requirements similar to StVZO. IOW,
they are not just blobs of blinding light; they evenly illuminate the
road in front of the vehicle, and they minimize the blinding of oncoming
road users.

Despite those terrible "limitations," people drive at 60 mph using such
headlights. Why would they not work for a 20 mph bicycle?

SMS must be one of those drivers who keep their cars' high beams on all
the time.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 10:23:17 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 10/1/2014 1:03 AM, sms wrote:
It's not that you don't need
StVZO, it's that StVZO is a bad idea because of the limitations it
imposes which are as illogical and dangerous in Germany as they are
here.

And yet _every other_ road vehicle in North America and Europe is sold
with headlights that meet optical requirements similar to StVZO. IOW,
they are not just blobs of blinding light; they evenly illuminate the
road in front of the vehicle, and they minimize the blinding of oncoming
road users.

Despite those terrible "limitations," people drive at 60 mph using such
headlights. Why would they not work for a 20 mph bicycle?

SMS must be one of those drivers who keep their cars' high beams on all
the time.

I find the conversation somewhat amusing. Years ago when I was in
Japan, at my uncle's request, I rode a bicycle as my sole means of
transportation. Said bicycle was equipped with "side wall" generator
and an incandescent headlight, and for the several years I was there
never experienced any difficulty in getting back and forth to work.

Amazing what we used to find satisfactory :-)
--
Cheers,

John B.

On 10/1/2014 7:00 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 10:23:17 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 10/1/2014 1:03 AM, sms wrote:
It's not that you don't need
StVZO, it's that StVZO is a bad idea because of the limitations it
imposes which are as illogical and dangerous in Germany as they are
here.

And yet _every other_ road vehicle in North America and Europe is sold
with headlights that meet optical requirements similar to StVZO. IOW,
they are not just blobs of blinding light; they evenly illuminate the
road in front of the vehicle, and they minimize the blinding of oncoming
road users.

Despite those terrible "limitations," people drive at 60 mph using such
headlights. Why would they not work for a 20 mph bicycle?

SMS must be one of those drivers who keep their cars' high beams on all
the time.

I find the conversation somewhat amusing. Years ago when I was in
Japan, at my uncle's request, I rode a bicycle as my sole means of
transportation. Said bicycle was equipped with "side wall" generator
and an incandescent headlight, and for the several years I was there
never experienced any difficulty in getting back and forth to work.

Amazing what we used to find satisfactory :-)


My tire drive dynamo (foul weather bike) is significantly
brighter than my hub dynamo bike, both are adequate for
night riding.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Thursday, October 2, 2014 9:02:41 AM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:

My tire drive dynamo (foul weather bike) is significantly
brighter than my hub dynamo bike, both are adequate for
night riding.

Speaking of such: I use a standard Union bottle dynamo on my touring bike,
driving an LED headlight. I modified it by machining a groove into the
knurled drive wheel, snapping a thick O-ring into the groove, and setting
it up so it rolls on the rim's braking surface. It's extremely smooth and
quiet. I haven't tried it in the rain, though; it may slip.

And speaking of quiet: It seems the top bearing in this Union dynamo is
pretty worn. Last ride, it began to sort of chatter for the last 2 miles
before I got home. I lubed the bearing and it seemed to help, but I think
this dynamo's days are numbered. It's a shame; it's only 10 or 15 years old,
I think.

- Frank Krygowski

On Monday, September 29, 2014 9:26:27 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
So, Western Bike Works had a 20% off sale, so I got a Shutter Precision PD-8 for about $110, which I thought was a smok'n deal. I have to find a rim and some appropriate spokes in my collection of junk downstairs, but I expect to put something together in the next week or so.



But I need a light. I would love to get the Supernova E3 triple, but I figure there has to be something available on the market that will do the trick but cheaper. I don't need no stink'n StVZO anything. Are there any second string lights that are good and not home brew. Maybe a Chinese knock off!



-- Jay Beattie.

Planet Bike's Dyno hub powered light is just like the 1W superflash, with all those flashing modes
so off the in StVZO violation outliers . but you can take it off and out it in your pocket
Bar mount with release & Portion of the inline plug is left on the bike ..