Veloloop Triggers Inductive Road Sensors

On 10/9/2014 2:12 PM, sms wrote:
On 10/9/2014 10:30 AM, Duane wrote:
On 10/9/2014 12:48 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, October 7, 2014 6:59:40 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 10/7/2014 6:53 PM, Joerg wrote:





Much of that gated community stuff is a joke. On Sunday I scoped out a

dog park that ended up not being there anymore. There is now a
baseball

training field so I had my last snack and water bottle there, watching

them pitch and catch. Since I was on my MTB I then proceeded on a
trail

which ended on a residential street I did not recognize. Wasn't on the

map yet. So I circled back and I came upon a heavily fortified manned

check point that I had seen before. But this time from the _inside_
:-)



Were you able to escape?



I know a guy who lives in one of those communities, in Florida. One
hot

August day I was trying to complete a 50 mile ride ending at his house.

It was nice and quiet (but hot) riding along the Atlantic, but
just a

few miles from the end, the road I was on dumped me onto a super-busy

suburban four-lane.



I could see that a quiet beachfront street was just half a mile east,

but there was a gated community between me and that street. I asked
the

20-something guard at the gate if he could let me through, but he

politely refused; and he warned me sternly NOT to use the next

neighborhood south. He said he always drove here with locked car
doors,

and immediately got into his guardhouse because of that neighborhood
nearby.



Well, it turns out the neighborhood's problem was that it was
black. As

I rode through, all the little kids grinning and waving were black. So

were the ladies smiling as they drove past me. So were the
parishioners

standing in front of the Baptist church.



I found my beachfront street, rode it to maybe half a mile from my

destination, then rode the highway and turned into the front gate. And

the white dude in the black Cadillac who was just behind me blared his

horn because I was in his way. The black people were far friendlier.



The guy who I was visiting says they do have problems with vandalism in

his gated community. The vandalism is done by the pampered teenagers

who live there.

Yes, and those black people are so wise and magical like Bagger Vance
and Morgan Freeman. The white man is the devil. Literally. Cadillac
spelled backwards is callidaC, which is Aramaic for "satan." You can
look it up.

Did you happen to run in to any Asians? I hear they are very
industrious.


I think sarcasm is wasted here Jay.

I think he should go get some KFC, watermelon, and grape soda.


I know this place down in the Desire Projects where he can ask for the
best watermelon...

On 09/10/2014 19:15, Duane wrote:
On 10/9/2014 2:12 PM, sms wrote:
On 10/9/2014 10:30 AM, Duane wrote:
On 10/9/2014 12:48 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, October 7, 2014 6:59:40 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 10/7/2014 6:53 PM, Joerg wrote:





Much of that gated community stuff is a joke. On Sunday I scoped
out a

dog park that ended up not being there anymore. There is now a
baseball

training field so I had my last snack and water bottle there,
watching

them pitch and catch. Since I was on my MTB I then proceeded on a
trail

which ended on a residential street I did not recognize. Wasn't on
the

map yet. So I circled back and I came upon a heavily fortified manned

check point that I had seen before. But this time from the _inside_
:-)



Were you able to escape?



I know a guy who lives in one of those communities, in Florida. One
hot

August day I was trying to complete a 50 mile ride ending at his
house.

It was nice and quiet (but hot) riding along the Atlantic, but
just a

few miles from the end, the road I was on dumped me onto a super-busy

suburban four-lane.



I could see that a quiet beachfront street was just half a mile east,

but there was a gated community between me and that street. I asked
the

20-something guard at the gate if he could let me through, but he

politely refused; and he warned me sternly NOT to use the next

neighborhood south. He said he always drove here with locked car
doors,

and immediately got into his guardhouse because of that neighborhood
nearby.



Well, it turns out the neighborhood's problem was that it was
black. As

I rode through, all the little kids grinning and waving were
black. So

were the ladies smiling as they drove past me. So were the
parishioners

standing in front of the Baptist church.



I found my beachfront street, rode it to maybe half a mile from my

destination, then rode the highway and turned into the front gate.
And

the white dude in the black Cadillac who was just behind me blared his

horn because I was in his way. The black people were far friendlier.



The guy who I was visiting says they do have problems with
vandalism in

his gated community. The vandalism is done by the pampered teenagers

who live there.

Yes, and those black people are so wise and magical like Bagger Vance
and Morgan Freeman. The white man is the devil. Literally. Cadillac
spelled backwards is callidaC, which is Aramaic for "satan." You can
look it up.

Did you happen to run in to any Asians? I hear they are very
industrious.


I think sarcasm is wasted here Jay.

I think he should go get some KFC, watermelon, and grape soda.


I know this place down in the Desire Projects where he can ask for the
best watermelon...

You've both claimed to have killfiled the guy. Ignore him, move on.
Snide remarks like you're making here are just unpleasant.

On 10/9/2014 2:22 PM, Clive George wrote:
On 09/10/2014 19:15, Duane wrote:
On 10/9/2014 2:12 PM, sms wrote:
On 10/9/2014 10:30 AM, Duane wrote:
On 10/9/2014 12:48 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, October 7, 2014 6:59:40 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 10/7/2014 6:53 PM, Joerg wrote:





Much of that gated community stuff is a joke. On Sunday I scoped
out a

dog park that ended up not being there anymore. There is now a
baseball

training field so I had my last snack and water bottle there,
watching

them pitch and catch. Since I was on my MTB I then proceeded on a
trail

which ended on a residential street I did not recognize. Wasn't on
the

map yet. So I circled back and I came upon a heavily fortified
manned

check point that I had seen before. But this time from the _inside_
:-)



Were you able to escape?



I know a guy who lives in one of those communities, in Florida. One
hot

August day I was trying to complete a 50 mile ride ending at his
house.

It was nice and quiet (but hot) riding along the Atlantic, but
just a

few miles from the end, the road I was on dumped me onto a super-busy

suburban four-lane.



I could see that a quiet beachfront street was just half a mile east,

but there was a gated community between me and that street. I asked
the

20-something guard at the gate if he could let me through, but he

politely refused; and he warned me sternly NOT to use the next

neighborhood south. He said he always drove here with locked car
doors,

and immediately got into his guardhouse because of that neighborhood
nearby.



Well, it turns out the neighborhood's problem was that it was
black. As

I rode through, all the little kids grinning and waving were
black. So

were the ladies smiling as they drove past me. So were the
parishioners

standing in front of the Baptist church.



I found my beachfront street, rode it to maybe half a mile from my

destination, then rode the highway and turned into the front gate.
And

the white dude in the black Cadillac who was just behind me blared
his

horn because I was in his way. The black people were far friendlier.



The guy who I was visiting says they do have problems with
vandalism in

his gated community. The vandalism is done by the pampered teenagers

who live there.

Yes, and those black people are so wise and magical like Bagger Vance
and Morgan Freeman. The white man is the devil. Literally. Cadillac
spelled backwards is callidaC, which is Aramaic for "satan." You can
look it up.

Did you happen to run in to any Asians? I hear they are very
industrious.


I think sarcasm is wasted here Jay.

I think he should go get some KFC, watermelon, and grape soda.


I know this place down in the Desire Projects where he can ask for the
best watermelon...

You've both claimed to have killfiled the guy. Ignore him, move on.
Snide remarks like you're making here are just unpleasant.


Good point.

On 10/9/2014 11:22 AM, Clive George wrote:

snip

You've both claimed to have killfiled the guy. Ignore him, move on.
Snide remarks like you're making here are just unpleasant.

But we still see the follow-ups by others.

The urge to respond to a really clueless remark, even in someone else's
follow-up, can be strong.

On 10/9/2014 11:48 AM, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, October 7, 2014 6:59:40 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 10/7/2014 6:53 PM, Joerg wrote:





Much of that gated community stuff is a joke. On Sunday I scoped out a

dog park that ended up not being there anymore. There is now a baseball

training field so I had my last snack and water bottle there, watching

them pitch and catch. Since I was on my MTB I then proceeded on a trail

which ended on a residential street I did not recognize. Wasn't on the

map yet. So I circled back and I came upon a heavily fortified manned

check point that I had seen before. But this time from the _inside_ :-)



Were you able to escape?



I know a guy who lives in one of those communities, in Florida. One hot

August day I was trying to complete a 50 mile ride ending at his house.

It was nice and quiet (but hot) riding along the Atlantic, but just a

few miles from the end, the road I was on dumped me onto a super-busy

suburban four-lane.



I could see that a quiet beachfront street was just half a mile east,

but there was a gated community between me and that street. I asked the

20-something guard at the gate if he could let me through, but he

politely refused; and he warned me sternly NOT to use the next

neighborhood south. He said he always drove here with locked car doors,

and immediately got into his guardhouse because of that neighborhood nearby.



Well, it turns out the neighborhood's problem was that it was black. As

I rode through, all the little kids grinning and waving were black. So

were the ladies smiling as they drove past me. So were the parishioners

standing in front of the Baptist church.



I found my beachfront street, rode it to maybe half a mile from my

destination, then rode the highway and turned into the front gate. And

the white dude in the black Cadillac who was just behind me blared his

horn because I was in his way. The black people were far friendlier.



The guy who I was visiting says they do have problems with vandalism in

his gated community. The vandalism is done by the pampered teenagers

who live there.

Yes, and those black people are so wise and magical like Bagger Vance and Morgan Freeman. The white man is the devil. Literally. Cadillac spelled backwards is callidaC, which is Aramaic for "satan." You can look it up.

Did you happen to run in to any Asians? I hear they are very industrious.

-- Jay Beattie.


Those enlightened Europeans seem to think Jews are the problem:

http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/13900...i-semitism.jpg

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Thursday, October 9, 2014 12:39:56 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 10/9/2014 11:48 AM, jbeattie wrote:

On Tuesday, October 7, 2014 6:59:40 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 10/7/2014 6:53 PM, Joerg wrote:











Much of that gated community stuff is a joke. On Sunday I scoped out a



dog park that ended up not being there anymore. There is now a baseball



training field so I had my last snack and water bottle there, watching



them pitch and catch. Since I was on my MTB I then proceeded on a trail



which ended on a residential street I did not recognize. Wasn't on the



map yet. So I circled back and I came upon a heavily fortified manned



check point that I had seen before. But this time from the _inside_ :-)







Were you able to escape?







I know a guy who lives in one of those communities, in Florida. One hot



August day I was trying to complete a 50 mile ride ending at his house.



It was nice and quiet (but hot) riding along the Atlantic, but just a



few miles from the end, the road I was on dumped me onto a super-busy



suburban four-lane.







I could see that a quiet beachfront street was just half a mile east,



but there was a gated community between me and that street. I asked the



20-something guard at the gate if he could let me through, but he



politely refused; and he warned me sternly NOT to use the next



neighborhood south. He said he always drove here with locked car doors,



and immediately got into his guardhouse because of that neighborhood nearby.







Well, it turns out the neighborhood's problem was that it was black. As



I rode through, all the little kids grinning and waving were black. So



were the ladies smiling as they drove past me. So were the parishioners



standing in front of the Baptist church.







I found my beachfront street, rode it to maybe half a mile from my



destination, then rode the highway and turned into the front gate. And



the white dude in the black Cadillac who was just behind me blared his



horn because I was in his way. The black people were far friendlier.







The guy who I was visiting says they do have problems with vandalism in



his gated community. The vandalism is done by the pampered teenagers



who live there.



Yes, and those black people are so wise and magical like Bagger Vance and Morgan Freeman. The white man is the devil. Literally. Cadillac spelled backwards is callidaC, which is Aramaic for "satan." You can look it up.



Did you happen to run in to any Asians? I hear they are very industrious.



-- Jay Beattie.





Those enlightened Europeans seem to think Jews are the problem:



http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/13900...i-semitism.jpg


Where is Tom Sherman when you need him? Or John Forrest Tomlinson, for that matter?

-- Jay Beattie.

jbeattie wrote:

Yes, and those black people are so wise and magical like Bagger Vance and Morgan Freeman. The white man is the devil. Literally. Cadillac spelled backwards is callidaC, which is Aramaic for "satan." You can look it up.



Did you happen to run in to any Asians? I hear they are very industrious..

Hmm. Maybe the guy in the Caddy was Asian, hurrying to get to somewhere more productive. Can't really say.

I worked for years with three different Asians: two from Iran, one from Bangladesh. The Iranians were industrious, and one in particular was amazingly so. The Bangladeshi was a good worker but very behind the times technically. Would you guess that was a racial thing?

- Frank Krygowski

On Thu, 9 Oct 2014 20:52:45 -0700 (PDT), Frank Krygowski
wrote:

jbeattie wrote:

Yes, and those black people are so wise and magical like Bagger Vance and Morgan Freeman. The white man is the devil. Literally. Cadillac spelled backwards is callidaC, which is Aramaic for "satan." You can look it up.



Did you happen to run in to any Asians? I hear they are very industrious.

Hmm. Maybe the guy in the Caddy was Asian, hurrying to get to somewhere more productive. Can't really say.

I worked for years with three different Asians: two from Iran, one from Bangladesh. The Iranians were industrious, and one in particular was amazingly so. The Bangladeshi was a good worker but very behind the times technically. Would you guess that was a racial thing?

- Frank Krygowski

I've lived in Asia for more than half my life and it has been my
experience that Asians, white folk and everyone else are pretty much
the same. Some of them are crooks and some of them aren't. Some of
them work two jobs to get their kids educated and some run off and
leave their pregnant wife behind.

I reckon it is pretty much an individual thing whether someone is good
or bad.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 4:06:28 PM UTC-4, sms wrote:
On 10/8/2014 12:50 PM, Art Harris wrote:

On Tuesday, October 7, 2014 9:35:59 AM UTC-4, sms wrote:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/natnat/veloloop-trigger-traffic-signals-from-your-bike







Somehow I don't think that this project is going to attract many



backers. Personally I rarely have a problem activating sensors with my



road bike or mountain bike and in the rare instances that happens there



is often a walk-signal button to press or a car comes along. Worst case,



I run the red light.







Maybe carbon fiber bicycles need this device.



I had a problem last year on my standard ride. There was a "T" intersection with poor sight lines and fast traffic. I would have to wait until a car came along behind me to trip the traffic sensor. I e-mailed the local Highway Department and they were on it the next day! They increased the sensitivity of the sensor and marked the spot to place my front wheel. It's been working fine ever since.



Art Harris



There may be some reason related to liability, but they always seem to

fix this issue pretty quickly, at least in my experience.



I herd SMS moved to San Clemente with blinkie vest kit sales !

sms wrote:

[...]



Most cities will increase loop sensitivity and/or paint a bicycle
marking on the pavement if you tell them about the problem. I find very
few that don't work, and it's not just my steel road bicycle. My
daughter's aluminum bicycle does just fine on them.


So, I wrote to the community services district after you mentioned this.
That is the governing body for our town. Answers so far ... none :-(

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/