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On Thursday, April 25, 2019 at 12:40:42 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 7:54:30 PM UTC-5, Radey Shouman wrote: " writes: Did a simple Google search on the makeup of the homeless population. My search results said 49% were WHITE. I think we can safely say whites/Caucasians are not illegal immigrants. My results also said How the hell can we say that? I have been personally acquainted with an English illegal immigrant and I can assure you she was white. Nice girl, overstayed her student visa by quite a few years. Also knew a family of Moldovans that would have been illegal immigrants if their paperwork had not come through -- definitively caucasian. But they are WHITE illegal immigrants. They don't count of course. Haven't you heard Trump yipping and yapping endlessly about all the illegals down in Texas coming from Mexico? Actually Guatemala, Venezuela, Honduras, etc. But they are all Mexicans of course. Listen to every news story about immigrants. They ALWAYS talk about the Mexican illegal immigrants. Every other day there is a story about some white woman in a fast food restaurant screaming at a worker to go home and get out of the country. Maybe these workers are immigrants, legal or illegal, or are born in America citizens. But they ain't white. Therefore they are immigrants. Hey! Texas became a US state and did not continue as part of Mexico because of immigration of US people to the Mexican province (? State?) that would become Texas. Things are just being reversed now. LOL Cheers |
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On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 5:06:22 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/24/2019 6:10 PM, wrote: On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 11:03:27 AM UTC-7, Radey Shouman wrote: writes: On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 4:15:05 PM UTC-7, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 13:49:40 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Friday, April 19, 2019 at 12:33:02 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote: On Friday, April 19, 2019 at 12:01:42 PM UTC-7, wrote: On Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 9:48:53 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote: Some posters here have gone on and on about homeless people, and specifically homeless people in Seattle. Here are interesting details about one of them: https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...ss-in-seattle/ -- - Frank Krygowski This is pretty much the same in every single state controlled by Democrats. It is a sickness that cannot be cured. So the staggering number of homeless in Texas can be cured? Why is homelessness so low in Bernie Sanders' home state of Vermont? https://www.usich.gov/tools-for-action/map/#fn[]=1400&fn[]=2900&fn[]=6000&fn[]=9900&fn[]=13500 -- Jay Beattie. Come on Jay, Vermont has a relatively tiny population and it is a state that makes Washington state look like Hawaii. And yet Vermont has about half the RATE of homelessness as Washington. Oregon with a little better weather conditions than Washington has a little worse homeless rate. You can check out the weather in those areas - while Vermont has bad weather in the winter, relatively New Hampshire has a long sea coast heated by the Gulf Stream and the slightly better weather translates into more homeless. Err... New Hampshire's "long seacoast" is 18 miles long :-) The average daily highs in that area are (average December, January and February) 35 degrees (F) and nightly lows are 12 degrees (F). It is strange, growing up in New Hampshire there just didn't seem to have been any "homeless". There were "Hobo's", who were homeless, but they migrated to more hospitable climes during the winters. -- Cheers, John B. I misread that large number of homeless from Massachusetts to New Hampshire. The homeless ratio is actually very low. Mass. is pretty surprising so I guess they have some large cities in which they can seek shelter from the conditions. I have seen homeless dudes sleeping on the sidewalks of Boston when it was well below 0F. Sometimes they freeze and die. I know of a few homeless encampments near me (much more suburban than Boston), and more that have been broken up. I don't see any of them camping in the woods during the winter; I'm not sure where they go. But it is NOTHING like the west coast. San Francisco is the Homeless city by the bay and LA is incredible. When you can drive for 3 miles on main streets with each side of the street lined with homeless tent shelters it makes you want to cry. The real basis for all of this is illegal immigration. I have known a fair number of both homeless people and illegal immigrants. I have never known a homeless illegal immigrant. Being visibly homeless exposes a person to much more police interaction than any illegal immigrant would want. Maybe that's just my idiosyncratic experience. I think you misunderstand me. Many of these homeless people would be upper-lower class workers and housing prices have been driven so high from population growing much faster than housing, that the price of housing is completely out of reach. Illegals are far more likely to live several families to a small home. Now a LOT of the illegals are highly skilled manual labor people that are valuable to this country. But are they more valuable than Americans? I'll repeat an experience I had. I went to put a package in the mail, I got there 5 minutes before the Post Office opened. I was looking around waiting and all of the local signs were in Spanish. There was what appeared to be a homeless person with a shopping cart full of all of her possessions. I had a couple of 5's in my pocket so I went over to give them to her. She was absolutely crying her heart out. She had just been evicted from her one room apartment so that the illegal owner could put an illegal family in there. To her she had no place to go and nowhere to turn. I was so heartbroken for her I cannot describe it. Jay chimed in the first time that "she has plenty of HHS to turn to." Tell that to a 70 year old obese black woman who has just been kicked out so that the owner could make more money. I happen to feel people's pain because I was nearly in that position while we were young and before the RR was unionized. Five people living in a 600 sq ft house with coal fireplace for heating and coal stove for cooking. The coal was liberated from the hopper cars on the railroad. Yesterday my wife had a program on TV called "Tiny House" and it was 600 sq feet for one man and his two boys weekending. Tom you're not much older than I. You do not remember railroads before unions. As far as I can remember the SP was unionized in the Early 50's. Though it might have been the late 40's. |
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On Thursday, April 25, 2019 at 9:40:42 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 7:54:30 PM UTC-5, Radey Shouman wrote: " writes: Did a simple Google search on the makeup of the homeless population. My search results said 49% were WHITE. I think we can safely say whites/Caucasians are not illegal immigrants. My results also said How the hell can we say that? I have been personally acquainted with an English illegal immigrant and I can assure you she was white. Nice girl, overstayed her student visa by quite a few years. Also knew a family of Moldovans that would have been illegal immigrants if their paperwork had not come through -- definitively caucasian. But they are WHITE illegal immigrants. They don't count of course. Haven't you heard Trump yipping and yapping endlessly about all the illegals down in Texas coming from Mexico? Actually Guatemala, Venezuela, Honduras, etc. But they are all Mexicans of course. Listen to every news story about immigrants. They ALWAYS talk about the Mexican illegal immigrants. Every other day there is a story about some white woman in a fast food restaurant screaming at a worker to go home and get out of the country. Maybe these workers are immigrants, legal or illegal, or are born in America citizens. But they ain't white. Therefore they are immigrants. It is always a bit comical when people who are little effected by illegal aliens pretend that they are perfectly OK because they don't see the real problems. It's like Jay driving down from the hill and not even looking right or left in Portland and hence he can criticize anyone complaining about the homeless problem. What you don't see doesn't hurt you so you can pretend it doesn't exist. Really nice play Russell. |
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On 4/25/2019 5:05 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Thursday, April 25, 2019 at 12:40:42 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 7:54:30 PM UTC-5, Radey Shouman wrote: " writes: Did a simple Google search on the makeup of the homeless population. My search results said 49% were WHITE. I think we can safely say whites/Caucasians are not illegal immigrants. My results also said How the hell can we say that? I have been personally acquainted with an English illegal immigrant and I can assure you she was white. Nice girl, overstayed her student visa by quite a few years. Also knew a family of Moldovans that would have been illegal immigrants if their paperwork had not come through -- definitively caucasian. But they are WHITE illegal immigrants. They don't count of course. Haven't you heard Trump yipping and yapping endlessly about all the illegals down in Texas coming from Mexico? Actually Guatemala, Venezuela, Honduras, etc. But they are all Mexicans of course. Listen to every news story about immigrants. They ALWAYS talk about the Mexican illegal immigrants. Every other day there is a story about some white woman in a fast food restaurant screaming at a worker to go home and get out of the country. Maybe these workers are immigrants, legal or illegal, or are born in America citizens. But they ain't white. Therefore they are immigrants. Hey! Texas became a US state and did not continue as part of Mexico because of immigration of US people to the Mexican province (? State?) that would become Texas. Things are just being reversed now. LOL IIRC, that's at least in part how Russia claimed control over Crimea. That's how they're trying to justify taking the eastern Ukraine. They moved in lots of Russian language speakers during the USSR years, then claimed that because people spoke Russian in those territories, the land rightfully belongs to Russia. And I'm sure people in Estonia are worried about the same trick. There are lots of Russians living there. The same tactic has been used elsewhere. I think the defense the U.S. has is to make sure immigrants assimilate into our culture, rather than persisting to be thoroughly Guatemalan, or Mexican, or Ethiopian, or whatever. Certainly, that's what happened with my ancestors, and with most immigrant families, probably within two generations. In fact, it's worked reasonably well even in countries that were conquered by invaders. The Normans invaded Britain, but within a few generations they were pretty well British. The British conquered Ireland, but pretty soon they were marrying into Irish families. Yes, those invaders made big changes in society - but as long as we don't let the Guatemalans completely take over, I suspect they'll cause no more problems than the German-Americans. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On Thursday, April 25, 2019 at 2:24:02 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Thursday, April 25, 2019 at 9:40:42 AM UTC-7, wrote: On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 7:54:30 PM UTC-5, Radey Shouman wrote: " writes: Did a simple Google search on the makeup of the homeless population.. My search results said 49% were WHITE. I think we can safely say whites/Caucasians are not illegal immigrants. My results also said How the hell can we say that? I have been personally acquainted with an English illegal immigrant and I can assure you she was white. Nice girl, overstayed her student visa by quite a few years. Also knew a family of Moldovans that would have been illegal immigrants if their paperwork had not come through -- definitively caucasian. But they are WHITE illegal immigrants. They don't count of course. Haven't you heard Trump yipping and yapping endlessly about all the illegals down in Texas coming from Mexico? Actually Guatemala, Venezuela, Honduras, etc. But they are all Mexicans of course. Listen to every news story about immigrants. They ALWAYS talk about the Mexican illegal immigrants. Every other day there is a story about some white woman in a fast food restaurant screaming at a worker to go home and get out of the country. Maybe these workers are immigrants, legal or illegal, or are born in America citizens. But they ain't white. Therefore they are immigrants. It is always a bit comical when people who are little effected by illegal aliens pretend that they are perfectly OK because they don't see the real problems. It's like Jay driving down from the hill and not even looking right or left in Portland and hence he can criticize anyone complaining about the homeless problem. WTF are you talking about? Around here, the homeless are mostly white guys. 81% white to be exact. https://www.oregon.gov/ohcs/ISD/RA/2...ess-Oregon.pdf I think they're mostly Croatian and from California -- the tired, the poor, the huddle masses urinating freely. https://stumptownblogger.typepad.com...ff8c970d-800wi -- Jay Beattie. |
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On Thu, 25 Apr 2019 12:32:38 -0500, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/25/2019 11:40 AM, wrote: On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 7:54:30 PM UTC-5, Radey Shouman wrote: " writes: Did a simple Google search on the makeup of the homeless population. My search results said 49% were WHITE. I think we can safely say whites/Caucasians are not illegal immigrants. My results also said How the hell can we say that? I have been personally acquainted with an English illegal immigrant and I can assure you she was white. Nice girl, overstayed her student visa by quite a few years. Also knew a family of Moldovans that would have been illegal immigrants if their paperwork had not come through -- definitively caucasian. But they are WHITE illegal immigrants. They don't count of course. Haven't you heard Trump yipping and yapping endlessly about all the illegals down in Texas coming from Mexico? Actually Guatemala, Venezuela, Honduras, etc. But they are all Mexicans of course. Listen to every news story about immigrants. They ALWAYS talk about the Mexican illegal immigrants. Every other day there is a story about some white woman in a fast food restaurant screaming at a worker to go home and get out of the country. Maybe these workers are immigrants, legal or illegal, or are born in America citizens. But they ain't white. Therefore they are immigrants. We're a very large country - we have one of everything. Illegals in Texas may well likely be Mexican or Guatemalan but in Dearborn they're Arabs, In Brighton Russians, in many cities Chinese and so on. I've known (and employed) illegal French Russian and Cuban. As in any other sphere of humans, there's a lot of individual variance (of my two Cubans, one is still in prison, one is a professor of Chemistry). Good Lord! there are people with names like "Muzi" that are, or were, illegal Immigrants. Or names ending in "ski" or people with French sounding names.... or if you get right down to it, people with good Anglo-Saxon names... if you go back a bit further. -- cheers, John B. |
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On 4/25/2019 6:12 PM, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 25 Apr 2019 12:32:38 -0500, AMuzi wrote: On 4/25/2019 11:40 AM, wrote: On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 7:54:30 PM UTC-5, Radey Shouman wrote: " writes: Did a simple Google search on the makeup of the homeless population. My search results said 49% were WHITE. I think we can safely say whites/Caucasians are not illegal immigrants. My results also said How the hell can we say that? I have been personally acquainted with an English illegal immigrant and I can assure you she was white. Nice girl, overstayed her student visa by quite a few years. Also knew a family of Moldovans that would have been illegal immigrants if their paperwork had not come through -- definitively caucasian. But they are WHITE illegal immigrants. They don't count of course. Haven't you heard Trump yipping and yapping endlessly about all the illegals down in Texas coming from Mexico? Actually Guatemala, Venezuela, Honduras, etc. But they are all Mexicans of course. Listen to every news story about immigrants. They ALWAYS talk about the Mexican illegal immigrants. Every other day there is a story about some white woman in a fast food restaurant screaming at a worker to go home and get out of the country. Maybe these workers are immigrants, legal or illegal, or are born in America citizens. But they ain't white. Therefore they are immigrants. We're a very large country - we have one of everything. Illegals in Texas may well likely be Mexican or Guatemalan but in Dearborn they're Arabs, In Brighton Russians, in many cities Chinese and so on. I've known (and employed) illegal French Russian and Cuban. As in any other sphere of humans, there's a lot of individual variance (of my two Cubans, one is still in prison, one is a professor of Chemistry). Good Lord! there are people with names like "Muzi" that are, or were, illegal Immigrants. Or names ending in "ski" or people with French sounding names.... or if you get right down to it, people with good Anglo-Saxon names... if you go back a bit further. -- cheers, John B. All four of my grandparents were Resident Aliens over their whole lives. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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Sir Ridesalot writes:
On Thursday, April 25, 2019 at 12:40:42 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 7:54:30 PM UTC-5, Radey Shouman wrote: " writes: Did a simple Google search on the makeup of the homeless population. My search results said 49% were WHITE. I think we can safely say whites/Caucasians are not illegal immigrants. My results also said How the hell can we say that? I have been personally acquainted with an English illegal immigrant and I can assure you she was white. Nice girl, overstayed her student visa by quite a few years. Also knew a family of Moldovans that would have been illegal immigrants if their paperwork had not come through -- definitively caucasian. But they are WHITE illegal immigrants. They don't count of course. Haven't you heard Trump yipping and yapping endlessly about all the illegals down in Texas coming from Mexico? Actually Guatemala, Venezuela, Honduras, etc. But they are all Mexicans of course. Listen to every news story about immigrants. They ALWAYS talk about the Mexican illegal immigrants. Every other day there is a story about some white woman in a fast food restaurant screaming at a worker to go home and get out of the country. Maybe these workers are immigrants, legal or illegal, or are born in America citizens. But they ain't white. Therefore they are immigrants. Hey! Texas became a US state and did not continue as part of Mexico because of immigration of US people to the Mexican province (? State?) that would become Texas. Things are just being reversed now. LOL Texas initially became an independent republic. Almost all of the settlers fighting for independence were from the US, and there were certainly forces in the US that wanted to see Texas separated from Mexico. The US Texicans were in favor of slavery, and many wanted to set up plantations for themselves. The Texas story caught the public attention in a way that allowed admitting another slave state without a corresponding free state. Slavery was illegal in Mexico at the time, and the US Texicans pledged not to keep any slaves; they also pledged to convert to Catholicism. Needless to say, neither pledge was kept. Mexico was willing to let them in anyway because it was having a very hard time keeping a lid on the Comanches, who at the time raided freely across almost all of the southern great plains. Of course most of the Mexicans in Texas at the time of independence stayed, although they were discriminated against by their new rulers. Many of their descendants are still there, particularly in west Texas and the southern Rio Grande valley. -- |
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Frank Krygowski writes:
On 4/25/2019 5:05 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Thursday, April 25, 2019 at 12:40:42 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 7:54:30 PM UTC-5, Radey Shouman wrote: " writes: Did a simple Google search on the makeup of the homeless population. My search results said 49% were WHITE. I think we can safely say whites/Caucasians are not illegal immigrants. My results also said How the hell can we say that? I have been personally acquainted with an English illegal immigrant and I can assure you she was white. Nice girl, overstayed her student visa by quite a few years. Also knew a family of Moldovans that would have been illegal immigrants if their paperwork had not come through -- definitively caucasian. But they are WHITE illegal immigrants. They don't count of course. Haven't you heard Trump yipping and yapping endlessly about all the illegals down in Texas coming from Mexico? Actually Guatemala, Venezuela, Honduras, etc. But they are all Mexicans of course. Listen to every news story about immigrants. They ALWAYS talk about the Mexican illegal immigrants. Every other day there is a story about some white woman in a fast food restaurant screaming at a worker to go home and get out of the country. Maybe these workers are immigrants, legal or illegal, or are born in America citizens. But they ain't white. Therefore they are immigrants. Hey! Texas became a US state and did not continue as part of Mexico because of immigration of US people to the Mexican province (? State?) that would become Texas. Things are just being reversed now. LOL IIRC, that's at least in part how Russia claimed control over Crimea. That's how they're trying to justify taking the eastern Ukraine. They moved in lots of Russian language speakers during the USSR years, then claimed that because people spoke Russian in those territories, the land rightfully belongs to Russia. And I'm sure people in Estonia are worried about the same trick. There are lots of Russians living there. The same tactic has been used elsewhere. I think the defense the U.S. has is to make sure immigrants assimilate into our culture, rather than persisting to be thoroughly Guatemalan, or Mexican, or Ethiopian, or whatever. Certainly, that's what happened with my ancestors, and with most immigrant families, probably within two generations. In fact, it's worked reasonably well even in countries that were conquered by invaders. The Normans invaded Britain, but within a few generations they were pretty well British. The British conquered Ireland, but pretty soon they were marrying into Irish families. Yes, those invaders made big changes in society - but as long as we don't let the Guatemalans completely take over, I suspect they'll cause no more problems than the German-Americans. Of course that's what happened in Texas, and the rest of the southwestern US -- eventually the Yanqui invaders began to learn Spanish, and accomodated themselves to the local culture. Except for those damned snowbirds, who are too set in their ways to learn anything. |
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