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  #111  
Old August 7th 07, 02:06 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.mountain-bike
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On Aug 6, 7:04 pm, "Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman"
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Silly wheel sizes aside, single speed actually makes a lot of sense
for mountain and cross bikes. Geared bikes are only faster until the
rear derailleur gets jammed with mud or bent in a crash.


Unless you can afford a Rohloff hub.


Have any professional level MTB races been won on bikes with Rohloff
hubs? (Rhetorical, not actual, question)


You can only
down shift so far before you're better off running anyway.


I find there is a considerable range between my lowest practical gear
and what my "average" riding gear is.

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Old August 7th 07, 03:11 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.mountain-bike
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 02:07:06 -0700, JD wrote:

Sounds like you ride with punks and poseurs.


No, I ride with A and B-grade vet racers on their training rides, which
they say are often tougher than their races.

You sound like an idiot, and a fairly slow one.
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Old August 7th 07, 03:41 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.mountain-bike
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On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 23:41:17 +0930, Michael Warner
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 02:07:06 -0700, JD wrote:

Sounds like you ride with punks and poseurs.


No, I ride with A and B-grade vet racers on their training rides, which
they say are often tougher than their races.

You sound like an idiot, and a fairly slow one.


Actually, he's a SS riding mountain biker from amb caught in a
cross-posting cultural war with roadies from rbt and rbm.

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Old August 7th 07, 03:45 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.mountain-bike
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On Aug 6, 5:02 pm, "Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman"
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Steve Baker wrote:
Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman wrote (in part):


I would rather ride my
bikes and argue on Usenet.


Prove it - PLEASE!
Like for, say, a month or so.....


I have proved over and over that I like to argue on Usenet.



Ineffectively, at that!

Go read some more bike racing magazines, it'll make you feel better
about your lame opinions.

JD

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Old August 7th 07, 03:47 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.mountain-bike
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On Aug 6, 7:35 pm, wrote:
On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 00:53:04 -0700, JD wrote:
On Aug 4, 6:02 pm, Ozark Bicycle
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On Aug 4, 7:45 pm, JD wrote:


On Aug 4, 3:33 pm, Fred Clydesdale wrote:


personally, i've never gotten the whole single/fixie thing, and
a singlespeed mtb seems beyond useless.


We can't all be closed-minded dumbasses.


i pass at least 5 fixies
a week on the various hills of my weekday ride, never had things
happen the other way around. and i'm a CLYDESDALE, for heaven's
sake. i'm carrying 3 pounds more bike and 20 pounds more of me
up those hills.


C'mon out and ride with me sometime. I'll show you just how
inefficient singlespeed bikes are. Your weekday ride sounds like it's
loaded with punks and poseurs.


JD 225lbs and can still kick your ass


No one talks smack quite like a SS or fixie freak.....


If you think it's unsubstantiated smack, keep kidding yourself.


JD


Dear JD,

Are the single-speed riders in these pictures punks or poseurs? Their
successors were much, much faster with derailleurs.

They include Lapize, Albini, Thys, Cristophe, Scieur, Buysse, and
others, early giants of bicycling who couldn't even ride their
single-speeds all the way up the Tour de France passes, much less keep
up with contemporary riders who climbed the same passes with
derailleurs.

http://www.bikeraceinfo.com/tdf/tdf%...t011/1910L-Lap...

http://www.bikeraceinfo.com/tdf/tdf%...t011/1910L-Lap...

http://www.bikeraceinfo.com/tdf/tdf%...t011/1910L-Lap...

http://www.bikeraceinfo.com/tdf/tdf%...t011/1912-si-c...

http://www.bikeraceinfo.com/tdf/tdf%...t011/1912-lead...

http://www.bikeraceinfo.com/tdf/tdf%...t011/1913--Des...

http://www.bikeraceinfo.com/tdf/tdf%...t011/1913-6%b0...

http://www.bikeraceinfo.com/tdf/tdf%...t011/1913-Thys...

You can enjoy the details in context he

http://www.bikeraceinfo.com/tdf/tdf%...story1910.html

***

"Before derailleurs, even the great ones would have to walk their
bikes. Here Scieur walks his bike up the Galibier in stage 11."

http://www.bikeraceinfo.com/tdf/tdf%...t02/1921-11th-...

***

"Buysse in Hell. Here he pushes his bike up the Tourmalet."

http://www.bikeraceinfo.com/tdf/tdf%...t02/1926-Buyss...

After the Tour de France allowed derailleurs, single-speeds vanished,
and so did pictures of the peloton pushing on foot up the passes.

Cheers,

Carl Fogel



Get a life, fool. Racing doesn't mean ****.

JD

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Old August 7th 07, 03:50 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.mountain-bike
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On Aug 7, 7:11 am, Michael Warner wrote:
On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 02:07:06 -0700, JD wrote:
Sounds like you ride with punks and poseurs.


No, I ride with A and B-grade vet racers on their training rides, which
they say are often tougher than their races.

You sound like an idiot, and a fairly slow one.



Get this dickhead, RACING DOESN'T MEAN ****.

Now go **** yourself.

JD

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Old August 7th 07, 03:51 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.mountain-bike
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On Aug 7, 7:41 am, Doug Taylor wrote:
On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 23:41:17 +0930, Michael Warner
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 02:07:06 -0700, JD wrote:


Sounds like you ride with punks and poseurs.


No, I ride with A and B-grade vet racers on their training rides, which
they say are often tougher than their races.


You sound like an idiot, and a fairly slow one.


Actually, he's a SS riding mountain biker from amb caught in a
cross-posting cultural war with roadies from rbt and rbm.



No, just decrying all of the assholes who think that racing and racers
are the be all to end all in bicycling. **** them and the EPO drugged
horses they rode in on.

JD

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Old August 7th 07, 05:20 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.mountain-bike
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On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 18:33:57 -0400, Fred Clydesdale
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personally, i've never gotten the whole single/fixie thing, and
a singlespeed mtb seems beyond useless.


You do get that single and fixie are not synonymous?

A fixie mountain bike does sound fairly insane, sort of an ego trip
for bored muscle heads. But that is not the subject of this thread,
which is single speed, with freewheel. Different animal.
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Old August 7th 07, 05:21 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.mountain-bike
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On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 07:51:55 -0700, JD wrote:

Actually, he's a SS riding mountain biker from amb caught in a
cross-posting cultural war with roadies from rbt and rbm.



No, just decrying all of the assholes who think that racing and racers
are the be all to end all in bicycling. **** them and the EPO drugged
horses they rode in on.


Well, in that case definitely do NOT cross post to rbr.

P.S. I'm buying for my SS on e-bay: used sus. fork with disc tabs,
used Avid BB7 front disc brake, and used disc compatible front wheel.
I'm too old for rigid anymore and am too used to disc brakes to risk
hitting trees using v-brakes. Do I lose poseur points?
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Old August 7th 07, 05:26 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.mountain-bike
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On Aug 6, 10:34 pm, Doug Taylor wrote:
For those who haven't tried flying around single track on a light,
stiff bike, climbing while standing, actually picking a line, then
what can I say?



I love this BS you get from people who claim riding a fully rigid
single speed mtb and 'actually picking a line' somehow makes you a
better rider over all. F*(king crap, it makes you better rider on a
fully rigid single speed mtb and that's it. The lines you take riding
rigid could be completely different to the lines you can take riding a
full sus and I'm not even saying faster just different. Ahh, but they
say there's greater skill required to navigate a rigid bike through
rough terrain as opposed to just riding over it with a full sus, more
BS. It's just as hard to spot a take off and landing zone over a rock
garden at 20mph as it is to pick the smoothest and faster line through
the same rock garden at 12mph.

Neither single speeds or 29ers are fads, they're niches. They're bikes
that suit different folks, different riding styles. I test rode a
rigid single speed a few months bike and thought, yep that's what I
used to ride twenty years ago and it sucked then too. I also test rode
a 29er hardtail with gears and was quite impressed, I might have to
add one of those to the stable.




 




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