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HGV driver cyclist awareness
LAMBETH'S CYCLIST and HGV DRIVER AWARENESS PROJECT
The project aims to reduce conflict between cyclists and HGV drivers and in particular is a response to the disproportionately high number of cyclist fatalities involving HGVs. The approach is to educate both HGV drivers and cyclists and to foster understanding between the two. Lambeth's Road Danger Reduction strategy would put the emphasis heavily on the drivers of HGVs but it is also very clear that some cycle fatalities could be avoided if the cyclist had a little knowledge of national standards cycle training. Ideally we would reach all cyclists and all HGV drivers but this is currently impracticable. Instead, Lambeth is running a project which engages its own fleet of HGV and bus drivers, and alongside this runs awareness events and adverts aimed at cyclists. Project Summary: a) Partnership working with Lambeth's fleet of bus and lorry drivers which includes: their co-operation and participation in the Cyclist/HGV awareness events, National Standards Cycle training for the drivers, installation of special safety mirrors on the fleet. b) Cyclist/HGV Awareness events. c) Adverts in Lambeth Life newspaper with to-the-point message: 'Never cycle on the inside of a lorry.' d) Partnership working with Lambeth's fleet of bus and lorry drivers. A working partnership with Veolia, Lambeth's refuse collection contractor and Lambeth's community bus service. Drivers attend a group classroom session in which they are encouraged to empathise with cyclists through discussion and national standards training. Topics discussed include considering how the drivers think cyclists should/do ride. Experience so far shows a wide range of opinions amongst drivers resulting in lively classroom discussion. Drivers then undertake Bikeability level one training in a group, and then paired training To Bikeability level 2 or 3 depending on the trainee's availability. In addition to training, the partnership includes a commitment to the fitting of parabolic and fresnel mirrors to aid visibility. e) Cyclist HGV awareness events Balancing the driver training, these events the focus more on educating the cyclists. Lambeth's HGV and bus drivers are still involved by providing a lorry and a bus and explaining to cyclists their view from their cab. Formula: The events are set up on cycle routes to attract passing cyclists. A Dr Bike attracts cyclists to stop. While they are getting their bikes fixed they have to opportunity to go inside the cab of the bus or lorry. Crucially, after descending the cab they then spend 10-15 minutes with a cycling instructor who talks them through, with visual demonstrations, the issues of visibility and correct positioning. Police officers are also actively involved at the events and sometimes assist with the instruction. h)Adverts in Lambeth Life newspaper with to-the-point message: 'Never cycle on the inside of a lorry.' * These adverts have appeared on the back pages of two editions of Lambeth Life. Note: Lambeth no longer has a Road Safety Officer, having replaced the role with that of Road Danger Reduction Manager based on the principles of the Road Danger Reduction Forum. This is an important shift on emphasis which targets the sources of danger and measures safety according to potential to inflict harm on other users, (e.g. cycling is safe because it has low potential to inflict harm on others). Equally, Lambeth has long been a strong proponent of National Standards Cycle Training; cyclists are taught how to minimise their risk through positioning, communication, and awareness." |
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I think that this is an admirable project but I have always felt that many of
these dreadful deaths and injuries could have been avoided by the cyclists themselves. In saying this I am not devolving the "blame" away from the drivers of these huge trucks. I see so very very many of them "cutting corners" when turning left. It is an extremely dangerous but, obviously, common manoeuvre. Being so common it is not surprising that drivers on our overcrowded roads make these mistakes. My inner feeling on the subject is that the driver should be always aware of the potentially lethal machine he controls -- BUT -- he, like all of us, is only human and will create dangerous situations. many many vehicles sat at a traffic light in the left hand lane will not indicate their intention of a left turn until the moment they move of. Indeed I find that, in general, a lot of drivers in UK do not indicate at all -- the principle presumably being that "I always turn here so I don't need to indicate do I!" The cyclist, though, should be in a much better position to be "taught" of the dangers of certain situations. I see so many cyclists "gutter riding" on busy roads. I see so many cyclists moving up the inside vehicles waiting at traffic lights and alongside large vehicles. ASL are potentially an asset but the approach to all the ones in my area are also potential death-traps and I will never cycle up the inside 24 inch wide "green" strip leading to them. So yes many heavy vehicle drivers are at fault but I believe that probably a larger "proportion" of cyclists put themselves into perilous positions. I am a driver as well as a cyclist and for most of my life I have been a driver until the last 5 or 6 years when I now consider myself to be a cyclist. I found it to be a very sharp learning curve when I first started training to cycle all the way to Santiago de Compostela. but by the time I had cycled my first 5000 miles in that first year by golly I was a cyclist and an aware one too. But I cycle daily and most of the cyclists I see on the road appear to be blithely unaware of the traffic around them. I suspect that they probably drive their cars in the same way! ( mind you I see far more adults cycling on the pavements in this area than on the roads) I do believe that the "cycling ethic" in UK is that it is still a toy and the "holier than thou" attitude taken by many subscribers to the this NG and often expressed by such organisations as CTC does not take account of this situation.The vast majority of POB's ( people on Bikes) have little on the road awareness or training and are a danger to themselves. Right that was just a mini rant. As always I tend to ramble on a tad too long! Sorry about that After a couple of months away I have finally set filters so that most of the garbage never appears and long unending topics like "CM" and "Cyclists Dismount" are automatically "read". Most of the trolls never appear -- except of course when endlessly repeated by troll feeders. So I shall occasionally make a post on here. which will undoubtedly sadden many others! -- Trevor A Panther In South Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom. www.tapan.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk "Tom Crispin" wrote in message ... LAMBETH'S CYCLIST and HGV DRIVER AWARENESS PROJECT The project aims to reduce conflict between cyclists and HGV drivers and in particular is a response to the disproportionately high number of cyclist fatalities involving HGVs. The approach is to educate both HGV drivers and cyclists and to foster understanding between the two. Lambeth's Road Danger Reduction strategy would put the emphasis heavily on the drivers of HGVs but it is also very clear that some cycle fatalities could be avoided if the cyclist had a little knowledge of national standards cycle training. Ideally we would reach all cyclists and all HGV drivers but this is currently impracticable. Instead, Lambeth is running a project which engages its own fleet of HGV and bus drivers, and alongside this runs awareness events and adverts aimed at cyclists. Project Summary: a) Partnership working with Lambeth's fleet of bus and lorry drivers which includes: their co-operation and participation in the Cyclist/HGV awareness events, National Standards Cycle training for the drivers, installation of special safety mirrors on the fleet. b) Cyclist/HGV Awareness events. c) Adverts in Lambeth Life newspaper with to-the-point message: 'Never cycle on the inside of a lorry.' d) Partnership working with Lambeth's fleet of bus and lorry drivers. A working partnership with Veolia, Lambeth's refuse collection contractor and Lambeth's community bus service. Drivers attend a group classroom session in which they are encouraged to empathise with cyclists through discussion and national standards training. Topics discussed include considering how the drivers think cyclists should/do ride. Experience so far shows a wide range of opinions amongst drivers resulting in lively classroom discussion. Drivers then undertake Bikeability level one training in a group, and then paired training To Bikeability level 2 or 3 depending on the trainee's availability. In addition to training, the partnership includes a commitment to the fitting of parabolic and fresnel mirrors to aid visibility. e) Cyclist HGV awareness events Balancing the driver training, these events the focus more on educating the cyclists. Lambeth's HGV and bus drivers are still involved by providing a lorry and a bus and explaining to cyclists their view from their cab. Formula: The events are set up on cycle routes to attract passing cyclists. A Dr Bike attracts cyclists to stop. While they are getting their bikes fixed they have to opportunity to go inside the cab of the bus or lorry. Crucially, after descending the cab they then spend 10-15 minutes with a cycling instructor who talks them through, with visual demonstrations, the issues of visibility and correct positioning. Police officers are also actively involved at the events and sometimes assist with the instruction. h)Adverts in Lambeth Life newspaper with to-the-point message: 'Never cycle on the inside of a lorry.' * These adverts have appeared on the back pages of two editions of Lambeth Life. Note: Lambeth no longer has a Road Safety Officer, having replaced the role with that of Road Danger Reduction Manager based on the principles of the Road Danger Reduction Forum. This is an important shift on emphasis which targets the sources of danger and measures safety according to potential to inflict harm on other users, (e.g. cycling is safe because it has low potential to inflict harm on others). Equally, Lambeth has long been a strong proponent of National Standards Cycle Training; cyclists are taught how to minimise their risk through positioning, communication, and awareness." |
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On 12 Nov, 04:24, Tom Crispin
wrote: LAMBETH'S CYCLIST and HGV DRIVER AWARENESS PROJECT The project aims to reduce conflict between cyclists and HGV drivers and in particular is a response to the disproportionately high number of cyclist fatalities involving HGVs. The approach is to educate both HGV drivers and cyclists and to foster understanding between the two. Lambeth's Road Danger Reduction strategy would put the emphasis heavily on the drivers of HGVs but it is also very clear that some cycle fatalities could be avoided if the cyclist had a little knowledge of national standards cycle training. On a related subject, in the local news today, although not a left- turning lorry:- "A cyclist who died in Battersea this year was hit by a lorry after trying to squeeze down the side of it, an inquest has found." "[Witness] said: “He went to the left and I believe that he would have hit the railings and that’s how he bounced back to hit the lorry.” "Since the accident Mr Isaacs [lorry] gave up driving at Rapid Link Transport and is retraining as a heating engineer." http://tinyurl.com/5sfbg8 Railings are definitely a mixed blessing. No room to abandon the bike when things get too exciting. I try and avoid this tight filtering, but the roads become so jammed that I sometimes feel impelled to risk it. (By the way, glad to see the Return of the Panther, even though he's plonked me). |
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Squashme writes:
Railings are definitely a mixed blessing. I'm really not sure that's true: certainly on urban streets I don't think they're any kind of a blessing at all. -dan |
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Squashme wrote:
On 12 Nov, 04:24, Tom Crispin wrote: LAMBETH'S CYCLIST and HGV DRIVER AWARENESS PROJECT The project aims to reduce conflict between cyclists and HGV drivers and in particular is a response to the disproportionately high number of cyclist fatalities involving HGVs. The approach is to educate both HGV drivers and cyclists and to foster understanding between the two. Lambeth's Road Danger Reduction strategy would put the emphasis heavily on the drivers of HGVs but it is also very clear that some cycle fatalities could be avoided if the cyclist had a little knowledge of national standards cycle training. On a related subject, in the local news today, although not a left- turning lorry:- "A cyclist who died in Battersea this year was hit by a lorry after trying to squeeze down the side of it, an inquest has found." "[Witness] said: “He went to the left and I believe that he would have hit the railings and that’s how he bounced back to hit the lorry.” Hmm... The reporter doesn't seem to be able to make up his/her mind as to who hit whom. |
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Daniel Barlow wrote:
Squashme writes: Railings are definitely a mixed blessing. I'm really not sure that's true: certainly on urban streets I don't think they're any kind of a blessing at all. -dan well they control the way people cross the road very effectively - I assume that's what they're there for. Roger Thorpe |
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"Daniel Barlow" wrote in message ... Squashme writes: Railings are definitely a mixed blessing. I'm really not sure that's true: certainly on urban streets I don't think they're any kind of a blessing at all. We had some in our town that were put on the market square to stop peds spilling into the road. They also painted a gutter cycle lane by the side. Problem was that car drivers pulling out of a 1-way side road could not see through the railings and with regularity, wiped out cyclists. The have now moved the railings and Tarmaced over the cycle lane. |
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"Roger Thorpe" wrote in message ... Daniel Barlow wrote: Squashme writes: Railings are definitely a mixed blessing. I'm really not sure that's true: certainly on urban streets I don't think they're any kind of a blessing at all. -dan well they control the way people cross the road very effectively - I assume that's what they're there for. Ah yes, they enable traffic to move swiftly through junctions with having to worry about people being in the way. |
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Roger Thorpe writes:
[railings] well they control the way people cross the road very effectively - I assume that's what they're there for. Which is the point really, isn't it? Pedestrians have as much right to use the road as anyone else: if the pavement is so crowded that they have to use the carriageway to make progress, who's to say they should be prevented? Obviously if it's the M6 I could understand fencing it off, but in the central London congestion zone? Streets are for people. Let the car drivers slow down a bit and pay attention to what's going on around them. -dan |
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Daniel Barlow wrote:
Squashme writes: Railings are definitely a mixed blessing. I'm really not sure that's true: certainly on urban streets I don't think they're any kind of a blessing at all. From:- http://www.thelondondailynews.com/mayor-scrap-safety-barriers-safety%E2%80%99s-sake-p-1730.html Mayor Boris Johnson is set to order the removal of hundreds of roadside safety barriers from London's busy streets - to improve safety. A trial in the West End de bunked the theory that metal railings made pedestrians and motorists safer after 600 yards of the cage like fencing was removed - with incidents falling nearly 44% in the three years after September 2003. Often described as ugly by town planners, the railings are a common irritance for pedestrians who are herded towards the snaking railings. Johnson will also order Transport for London to remove signposts and utility from the edge of roads - the moves are seen as another part of the Mayor's "Quality of Life" agenda. |
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