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  #51  
Old December 28th 15, 09:36 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.legal
Ian Jackson[_2_]
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In message , Norman Rowing
writes
On 28/12/2015 14:59, Kinnell wrote:

"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 13:01:22 -0000, Norman Rowing
wrote:

On 27/12/2015 21:31, Mr Macaw wrote:
https://www.change.org/p/minister-of...vehicle-lights


The law is clear: Highway Code rule 114 [Law RVLR reg 27] "You MUST NOT
use any lights in a way which would dazzle or cause discomfort to other
road users, including pedestrians and cyclists"

Except the Highway Code carries no legal weight at all

I class any light when it isn't dark as a distraction. You should
only draw attention to yourself if you need to, for example you're
turning, braking, or an unusual vehicle like an ambulance, motorcycle,
etc. If everybody has lights, then you are less likely to notice the
ones you need to.

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With ordinary tungsten filament lamps the brightness was limted to a
maximum of 21 watts for each headlight on a car,


45W, indicators and brake lights were 21W, sidelights 5W IIRC


I'm pretty sure that even on my old 1953 Ford Prefect, the headlights
were 40 dipped, 60 full. Later cars were, I think, 45/65. Tail (and, I
think, side/parking lights) were 6W.


then they introduced
halogen lamps which were able to run hotter and brighter......now there
are LEDs which produce a brilliant white light (thousands of Lumens) . I
don't know if the law has kept up with technology.



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  #52  
Old December 28th 15, 09:40 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.legal,uk.misc
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Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 21:07:04 -0000, Alycidon
wrote:
On Monday, 28 December 2015 20:57:57 UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:

I can assure you that the clamp on my £400 lamp DOES NOT shift
under the odd bump - a £5 one from Lidl may well do.

Let me see a photo of your clamped light close up.


http://www.swldxer.co.uk/light.jpg


Is that insured? I'd not want £400 of stuff sat on top of my
handlebars. What if you fell off? What if you propped your bike up
somewhere and it fell over?
Your 16 year old car is not worth £400, - **** poor, smelly, no woman,
unemployable PHucker.

Enjoy your wank tonight over Simon Mason, who worked for a living to support
**** like you.
Peter Hucker disgusts me and just about everyone else.
******.



  #53  
Old December 28th 15, 09:41 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 21:36:53 -0000, Alycidon wrote:

On Monday, 28 December 2015 21:28:10 UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:

Two nights in Monaco will swallow up £500 in June - the bike light will last for years and is also superb as a torch.


But completely unnecessary for anyone who can see properly. And annoys the hell out of other road users, as you admitted earlier.

A standard car headlamp can illuminate the road well enough for car speeds. Do you cycle 3 times faster than a car?


I often cycle infinitely faster than a car.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ_dL_-cE9w


Irrelevant. I will reword my last post:

A standard car headlamp can illuminate the road well enough for THE TOP SPEED OF A CAR. Do you cycle 3 times faster than a car is able to drive?

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  #54  
Old December 28th 15, 09:42 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.legal
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On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 21:36:59 -0000, Ian Jackson wrote:

In message , Norman Rowing
writes
On 28/12/2015 14:59, Kinnell wrote:

"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 13:01:22 -0000, Norman Rowing
wrote:

On 27/12/2015 21:31, Mr Macaw wrote:
https://www.change.org/p/minister-of...vehicle-lights


The law is clear: Highway Code rule 114 [Law RVLR reg 27] "You MUST NOT
use any lights in a way which would dazzle or cause discomfort to other
road users, including pedestrians and cyclists"

Except the Highway Code carries no legal weight at all

I class any light when it isn't dark as a distraction. You should
only draw attention to yourself if you need to, for example you're
turning, braking, or an unusual vehicle like an ambulance, motorcycle,
etc. If everybody has lights, then you are less likely to notice the
ones you need to.

--
Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects.


With ordinary tungsten filament lamps the brightness was limted to a
maximum of 21 watts for each headlight on a car,


45W, indicators and brake lights were 21W, sidelights 5W IIRC


I'm pretty sure that even on my old 1953 Ford Prefect,


I thought that was a character!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_P...rd_Prefect.jpg

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Old December 28th 15, 09:52 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Monday, 28 December 2015 21:17:31 UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 21:07:04 -0000, Alycidon wrote:

On Monday, 28 December 2015 20:57:57 UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:

I can assure you that the clamp on my £400 lamp DOES NOT shift under the odd bump - a £5 one from Lidl may well do.

Let me see a photo of your clamped light close up.


http://www.swldxer.co.uk/light.jpg


Is that insured? I'd not want £400 of stuff sat on top of my handlebars. What if you fell off? What if you propped your bike up somewhere and it fell over?


I suppose it could get hit in a local flood.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...1315656560.jpg



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Old December 28th 15, 09:58 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 21:52:51 -0000, Alycidon wrote:

On Monday, 28 December 2015 21:17:31 UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 21:07:04 -0000, Alycidon wrote:

On Monday, 28 December 2015 20:57:57 UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:

I can assure you that the clamp on my £400 lamp DOES NOT shift under the odd bump - a £5 one from Lidl may well do.

Let me see a photo of your clamped light close up.

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/light.jpg


Is that insured? I'd not want £400 of stuff sat on top of my handlebars. What if you fell off? What if you propped your bike up somewhere and it fell over?


I suppose it could get hit in a local flood.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...1315656560.jpg


Your bike would do a lot worse. But not if we had this stuff everywhe http://www.alphr.com/science/1001715...t-it-s-amazing

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  #57  
Old December 28th 15, 10:03 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Monday, 28 December 2015 21:58:40 UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 21:52:51 -0000, Alycidon wrote:

On Monday, 28 December 2015 21:17:31 UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 21:07:04 -0000, Alycidon wrote:

On Monday, 28 December 2015 20:57:57 UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:

I can assure you that the clamp on my £400 lamp DOES NOT shift under the odd bump - a £5 one from Lidl may well do.

Let me see a photo of your clamped light close up.

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/light.jpg

Is that insured? I'd not want £400 of stuff sat on top of my handlebars. What if you fell off? What if you propped your bike up somewhere and it fell over?


I suppose it could get hit in a local flood.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...1315656560.jpg


Your bike would do a lot worse.


Here is the same area.
No problem.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...1306367818.jpg


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Old December 28th 15, 10:26 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Monday, 28 December 2015 22:08:28 UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 22:03:40 -0000, Alycidon wrote:

On Monday, 28 December 2015 21:58:40 UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 21:52:51 -0000, Alycidon wrote:

On Monday, 28 December 2015 21:17:31 UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 21:07:04 -0000, Alycidon wrote:

On Monday, 28 December 2015 20:57:57 UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:

I can assure you that the clamp on my £400 lamp DOES NOT shift under the odd bump - a £5 one from Lidl may well do.

Let me see a photo of your clamped light close up.

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/light.jpg

Is that insured? I'd not want £400 of stuff sat on top of my handlebars. What if you fell off? What if you propped your bike up somewhere and it fell over?

I suppose it could get hit in a local flood.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...1315656560.jpg

Your bike would do a lot worse.


Here is the same area.
No problem.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...1306367818.jpg


That's because he didn't leave it in the path of the water. Bikes are lighter, and more likely to get washed away/broken/etc.


A whole car sales lot was destroyed here.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...1315663257.jpg



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Old December 28th 15, 10:32 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 22:26:56 -0000, Alycidon wrote:

On Monday, 28 December 2015 22:08:28 UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 22:03:40 -0000, Alycidon wrote:

On Monday, 28 December 2015 21:58:40 UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 21:52:51 -0000, Alycidon wrote:

On Monday, 28 December 2015 21:17:31 UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 21:07:04 -0000, Alycidon wrote:

On Monday, 28 December 2015 20:57:57 UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:

I can assure you that the clamp on my £400 lamp DOES NOT shift under the odd bump - a £5 one from Lidl may well do.

Let me see a photo of your clamped light close up.

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/light.jpg

Is that insured? I'd not want £400 of stuff sat on top of my handlebars. What if you fell off? What if you propped your bike up somewhere and it fell over?

I suppose it could get hit in a local flood.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...1315656560.jpg

Your bike would do a lot worse.

Here is the same area.
No problem.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...1306367818.jpg


That's because he didn't leave it in the path of the water. Bikes are lighter, and more likely to get washed away/broken/etc.


A whole car sales lot was destroyed here.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...1315663257.jpg


Yes, water destroys a hell of a lot of things. What point were we making here though?

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Old December 29th 15, 08:32 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 08:38:39 -0800 (PST), Alycidon wrote:

On Monday, 28 December 2015 16:13:51 UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:

Every headlight bulb I've ever seen for the last 30 years has been 55/65W (dual filament). 55 for dip and 65 for full.

Now common sense would make us read that as 55 or 65W OUTPUT if the bulb is made more efficient. Fitting a 55W LED for example would be the equivalent of 550W of tungsten, which would be beyond a joke.


I wondered why that car driver told me that my 4000 lumen front bike light was too bright.


I wonder - did he also call you a ******?

 




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