Can't Use Helmets in the Sun????

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Given a choice (unfortunately many of us no longer have such a
choice) of whether to wear a helmet while cycling, does it make a
difference to the
likelyhood of injury?

Of course.


Then why do not population-level studies show this?

Because true "road cyclists" are only a small percentage of the
overall population.


Reference please.


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On Sun, 28 May 2006 14:47:44 GMT, "Sorni"
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Given a choice (unfortunately many of us no longer have such a
choice) of whether to wear a helmet while cycling, does it make a
difference to the
likelyhood of injury?

Of course.


Then why do not population-level studies show this?

Because true "road cyclists" are only a small percentage of the
overall population.


Reference please.


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I have to say, that was funny.

I assume by road cyclists, Sorni means the athletic sort of people who
use the bike for recreation and have fairly high-end equipment.

JT


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John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:

Given a choice (unfortunately many of us no longer have such a
choice) of whether to wear a helmet while cycling, does it make a
difference to the
likelyhood of injury?

Of course.

Unless you get in front of a semi and parts of your body are scattered along
the street, then your head is intact and your last thought is "Oh ****, but
my head is safe........".

I assume by road cyclists, Sorni means the athletic sort of people who
use the bike for recreation and have fairly high-end equipment.

JT

I am an athletic sort who does not have high-end equipment, so are you
saying that to keep in shape you have to spend the rent money? I have 6
low-end bikes and plenty of spares so I always have at least 2 bikes to
pick from. Of course I have a house in the country and room for them all,
unlike the city dweller who has to cram one into an apartment. I did that
for a while then just rented a house in the 'burbs and the bike collection
exploded.
Bill Baka

Quoting foots :
out to be my wrist watch in pieces scooting along in front of me. I
know my head would have been hurt, maybe a concussion or worse, had I
not been wearing my helmut. Not sure if it saved my life, but I know
it reduced my injuries considerably.

Really? Repeating the experiment with a control unhelmeted head must have
been rather unpleasant. I wouldn't have bothered, myself.
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Well, slamming my head against asphalt at 15 mph with a helmut on and
not having one scratch (on the head) vs slamming my leg and butt and
shoulder against the same asphalt at the same velocity at the same
time resulting in scrapes and burns, at every contact point, that went
thru both layers of skin and one layer of expensive bib shorts is
enough evidence for me. If my head was as hard as some that post in
this group, then without a helmut it might have come thru a spill
like that unscathed.
Everyone has to do their own thing, as for me, I'll wear a brain
bucket!


On 29 May 2006 14:07:05 +0100 (BST), David Damerell
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Quoting foots :
out to be my wrist watch in pieces scooting along in front of me. I
know my head would have been hurt, maybe a concussion or worse, had I
not been wearing my helmut. Not sure if it saved my life, but I know
it reduced my injuries considerably.

Really? Repeating the experiment with a control unhelmeted head must have
been rather unpleasant. I wouldn't have bothered, myself.

On Tue, 30 May 2006 03:27:43 GMT, foots wrote:

Well, slamming my head against asphalt at 15 mph with a helmut on and
not having one scratch (on the head) vs slamming my leg and butt and
shoulder against the same asphalt at the same velocity at the same
time resulting in scrapes and burns, at every contact point, that went
thru both layers of skin and one layer of expensive bib shorts is
enough evidence for me.

It's pretty clear that wearing a helmet can prevent scrapes and such.

That's quite different than the claims of helmets frequently
preventing serious injury and death.

JT

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In article .com,
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How do you make kids wear a helmet? They really hate wearing them.

Simple: tell them they can't ride without one.

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In article .com,
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How do you make kids wear a helmet? They really hate wearing them.

Simple: tell them they can't ride without one.

Worked for me for my children. One continues to ride a bike. The other
decided it wasn't worth it, and gave up bike riding when she entered junior
high. Prefered to walk the 1.5 miles each way. As we were looking at
colleges I was surprised to hear this child that gave up bike riding at age
11 wouldn't mind getting a bike for transportation when she goes away to
school, as by then she won't need to wear a helmet. (In California adults
(age 18) are not required by law to wear helmets while cycling.)

Cathy Kearns wrote:

Worked for me for my children. One continues to ride a bike. The other
decided it wasn't worth it, and gave up bike riding when she entered junior
high. Prefered to walk the 1.5 miles each way. As we were looking at
colleges I was surprised to hear this child that gave up bike riding at age
11 wouldn't mind getting a bike for transportation when she goes away to
school, as by then she won't need to wear a helmet. (In California adults
(age 18) are not required by law to wear helmets while cycling.)



Which is an excellent illustration of one good reason many of us oppose
mandatory helmets - they put people off cycling especially children and
there is no clear evidence of any compensating benefit.

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his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
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Quoting foots :
wrote:
Quoting foots :
out to be my wrist watch in pieces scooting along in front of me. I
know my head would have been hurt, maybe a concussion or worse, had I
not been wearing my helmut. Not sure if it saved my life, but I know
it reduced my injuries considerably.
Really? Repeating the experiment with a control unhelmeted head must have
been rather unpleasant. I wouldn't have bothered, myself.
Well, slamming my head against asphalt at 15 mph with a helmut on and
not having one scratch (on the head) vs slamming my leg and butt and
shoulder against the same asphalt at the same velocity at the same
time resulting in scrapes and burns, at every contact point, that went
thru both layers of skin and one layer of expensive bib shorts is
enough evidence for me.

So because the rest of your body - which, incidentally, you are not as
equipped by evolution to protect as the head - got scrapes and burns, you
conclude that your head would have got "maybe a concussion", and you think
there's a possibility it saved your life?

See, I would conclude that the helmet maybe saved me scrapes. Which is nice,
but if you're worried about scrapes, why don't you wear BMX knee and elbow
guards?

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