questions to enter races

I thought I might be done writing to this googlegroup because it was
weird to me how someone knew where I lived? but my friend who told me
about this googlegroup in the first place said that was normal, that
there was some way for people to do that on the internet. what states
are you people from? I dont know how to look it up. he also said
almost everyone on here was nice, even if they do some teasing. but
he did say there is one person on here i should avoid that no one
likes.


I'm sorry some people haven't liked my questions. I am really going
to try better. my question now is, those links that gmbt gave me were
really great and I read a lot about womens races. Thanks I want to
know more about the world cups ad the toona tour. I hope you won't
laugh but I want to enter them someday, how do I do that?
here is another thing, I read this article my friend sent to me that
says biking can be dangerous, what do you think.

http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.co...et-you-killed/

LYNDA

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I thought I might be done writing to this googlegroup because it was
weird to me how someone knew where I lived? but my friend who told me
about this googlegroup in the first place said that was normal, that
there was some way for people to do that on the internet. what states
are you people from? I dont know how to look it up. he also said
almost everyone on here was nice, even if they do some teasing. but
he did say there is one person on here i should avoid that no one
likes.


I'm sorry some people haven't liked my questions. I am really going
to try better. my question now is, those links that gmbt gave me were
really great and I read a lot about womens races. Thanks I want to
know more about the world cups ad the toona tour. I hope you won't
laugh but I want to enter them someday, how do I do that?
here is another thing, I read this article my friend sent to me that
says biking can be dangerous, what do you think.


http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.co...g-to-work-get-
you-killed/

LYNDA

Troll or not,

Sadly, a very timely article. Just yesterday I read in the local paper a guy
here got killed in this small town riding his bike to work. He rides his
bike everyday to work at Happy Burger. Well, when he didn't show up to work,
the boss Mr. Fritz called his family which said he did in fact leave for
work. I have many a time been in there for breakfast on his shift. Right
away the Sheriff started a search of roads as did his family and Mr. Fritz.
Mr Fritz started backtracking his daily route. One part of the road which I
know quite well having going through the steep gravel bed with my mountain
bike is a bit tricky. Well, Mr Fritz found his body off to side down a
ravine in a heavily wooden area. He saw the bike first and then the guy was
in the thick brush. It appeared he had a severe head injury. It's not clear
if he was wearing a helmet. I just know that section is really steep, maybe
28 percent or 30, and you need to be careful going down to the creek bed. I
always go slow, it's pretty dicey. It was foggy and poor visibility, so they
think he lost site of the road and went off into the ravine before he knew
what was happening. Fog will do that, I don't like riding in the fog. It's
very rare, in fact I can't ever remember a local being killed here on a
bike, but perhaps tourists biking to Yosemite. I read more about rock
climbers getting killed climbing El. Cap. or drowning in the Merced river.

GBMT

wrote:

I thought I might be done writing to this googlegroup because it was
weird to me how someone knew where I lived? but my friend who told me
about this googlegroup in the first place said that was normal, that
there was some way for people to do that on the internet. what states
are you people from? I dont know how to look it up. he also said
almost everyone on here was nice, even if they do some teasing. but
he did say there is one person on here i should avoid that no one
likes.


I'm sorry some people haven't liked my questions. I am really going
to try better. my question now is, those links that gmbt gave me were
really great and I read a lot about womens races. Thanks I want to
know more about the world cups ad the toona tour. I hope you won't
laugh but I want to enter them someday, how do I do that?
here is another thing, I read this article my friend sent to me that
says biking can be dangerous, what do you think.

http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.co...ycling-to-work
-get-you-killed/

LYNDA



They didn't really name a series of women's bike races the Toona Tour did
they?

--
Bill Asher

"GoneBeforeMyTime" wrote in message
...

Sadly, a very timely article. Just yesterday I read in the local paper a
guy
here got killed in this small town riding his bike to work.

Merced online paper ran the story...

Thursday, Oct. 18, 2007
Man dies in 'unfortunate' bike accident

Police say no cars or foul play appear to have been involved.

By VICTOR A. PATTON
mercedsun-star.com

MARIPOSA -- A terrible fall during a routine biking trek accidentally ended
the life of a man described as a friendly, outgoing person who majored in
music at Merced College.

Mariposa County Sheriff's investigators believe Norman Tablett, 46, died on
Saturday while riding his bike from home on the 4300 block of Bridgeport
Drive to his job at Happy Burger Diner at Highway 140 and 12th Street,
according to Mariposa County Assistant Coroner Gail Sgambellone.

Sgambellone said investigators concluded that Tablett, whose body was found
about four miles from his home near Mormon Bar Crossing and Old Highway, had
fallen and hit his head after his bike left the roadway. She said
investigators did not discover any signs of foul play or indications that
his bike could have been hit by a car. Investigators don't have any
witnesses to the incident, which they have deemed a tragic accident.

"He went off the road and over an embankment -- and the embankment was a
rocky, shrubbed area. So apparently when he went over the side he fell and
hit his head on rocks which caused a very obvious head injury. And that's
what the cause of death was," Sgambellone said. "This was just an isolated
incident. We don't have a history of this happening in this particular area.
It's just an unfortunate accident."

Sgambellone said investigators are not aware of any pre-existing medical
conditions that would have caused Tablett to have the accident.

Tablett was last seen alive around 4 a.m. on Oct. 13, leaving his home to
ride 11 miles to his job, Sgambellone said. His father, Lester, became
worried after hearing that his son had never arrived at work and notified
the sheriff's department around 8:30 a.m. The owners of the Happy Burger
Diner, Greg Fritz and his wife, Dianne (who is also a Mariposa County
Supervisor), discovered Tablett's body around 3:30 p.m. while searching for
him that day.

Greg Fritz said Tablett was an extremely dependable person who never missed
a day of work, which is one reason why it was odd when he did not arrive for
his shift on Oct. 13. "He was a friendly guy. His shift started at 6:30 a.m.
and he would always be here at 5:30 a.m. He'd come in, shoot the breeze and
drink coffee before he started his shift," Fritz said. "That's why we knew
there was something wrong."

Fritz said Tablett had ridden his bike to and from work for several years --
even when he held previous jobs at a doughnut shop and another local
restaurant. His wife spotted Talbett's bike in the brush and called his
name. "It was very thick brush. Brambles and berry thorns. I could tell very
easily that he had been gone since the morning," he said. "Then we made the
911 call."

Friends and family members described Tablett as a quiet, kind person who had
developed a passionate love for jazz music in recent years. "He was always
cheerful and he never had a bad word to say about people," said his brother
Dave, 40. "He was always willing to jump in and help when help was needed."

A 1979 graduate of Richard Gahr High School in Cerritos, Tablett served
honorably in the California Army National Guard from 1979 until 1990, where
he worked as a combat telecom center operator and audio visual equipment
repairman, according to his brother Thomas. During his 11 years of service
he was awarded the California Commendation Medal, the Commanding General's
Meritorious Unit Citation and Army Service Ribbon.

"He was quiet, but he was very intellectual," said Jessica Tablett, his
sister-in-law. "He was a beautiful person, and he is going to be very missed
by a lot of us."

Merced College music professor John Albano, who had Tablett as a student in
a jazz history class this semester, remembered him as a deeply involved and
enthusiastic student. "He was an 'A' student, and his comments were always
insightful in class," Albano said. "I could tell that he enjoyed being there
and he enjoyed learning."

Tablett was the eldest of five brothers and the son of Lester Tablett, 72,
and his late wife Marilyn Tablett. He is survived by his brothers Michael,
45, of Oakdale; James, 42, of Fresno; David, 40, of Mariposa and Thoma, 37,
of Fresno. He was never married and had no children.

Services for Tablett are scheduled for Oct. 27 at Mariposa Funeral Home,
located at 4981 9th St. A viewing is scheduled for at 9 a.m., while the
funeral is scheduled for 11 a.m.

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I thought I might be done writing to this googlegroup

Not a google group.

--
Michael Press

Firstly - if you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen. Whenever
there's an anonymous group like this, there will be people who try to take
advantage of the fact that they can't be identified to say the most bizarre
things.

Secondly, this group as bad as it gets is MILES better than most of the
other discussion groups on Usenet.

And Thirdly - no one was complaining about questions - it was your blind
assertions that women were better riders because they had to work harder to
go slower. I'm one person among many here who have supported women's racing
and the fact is that women are not nearly as competitive minded as well as
the fact that physically they simply aren't a comparison for the top flight
men. That's not to say that they can't beat MOST men, but then so can I and
I don't pretend to be any sort of athlete.

If you want to start racing you should firstly find a local women's racing
team. I don't know nor much care where you live but most areas have some
women's teams within not to difficult driving distance.

Racing is quite insulting at first. You're dropped so fast and so thoroughly
that it will cause most people to simply stop racing after the first race or
two. If you're on a team you'll get moral support and generally good advice.
Women's teams usually are very supportive even of women who will never be
good racers. Men's team are OFTEN supportive of women but not if they don't
show promise pretty quickly.

So you should find a local team to train with and get pointers and you
should get ready to really feel like a boob in the racing for a couple of
years. I think that the first year I never finished a race on the same lap
as the group except the last race of the season. The second year I rode at
the back which is the worst place to be in a race since they're yo-yoing
back and forth and working far harder than those near the front. The third
year and thereafter I was able to ride in the front group of my class (Old,
slow and in the way class) and eventually I felt like a real racer when I
discovered I was riding up what used to be a horrendous hill in my big chain
ring and not feeling like I was working.

It took about five years for that sort of riding strength to work its way
out of my system and I'm a slow rider again but I now have the confidence to
know that I can do any ride I set my mind on. At the end of a 10 day tour
I'm generally riding stronger than at the beginning now while everyone else
is slowing up. On climbs I am no longer dreading what's around the next turn
even if it's more climbing.

I can recommend racing to anyone that has the stamina to put up with the
amount of training necessary to move up in the ranks. Racing bicycles is
simply too hard for someone to play weekend warrior though - you have to
ride and train a whole lot to become good. You have to devote a good part of
your attention to it and not treat it as a lark unless you are unusually
gifted as some I've ridden with.

Welcome to cycling and long may you enjoy it.

Tom

wrote in message
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I thought I might be done writing to this googlegroup because it was
weird to me how someone knew where I lived? but my friend who told me
about this googlegroup in the first place said that was normal, that
there was some way for people to do that on the internet. what states
are you people from? I dont know how to look it up. he also said
almost everyone on here was nice, even if they do some teasing. but
he did say there is one person on here i should avoid that no one
likes.


I'm sorry some people haven't liked my questions. I am really going
to try better. my question now is, those links that gmbt gave me were
really great and I read a lot about womens races. Thanks I want to
know more about the world cups ad the toona tour. I hope you won't
laugh but I want to enter them someday, how do I do that?
here is another thing, I read this article my friend sent to me that
says biking can be dangerous, what do you think.

http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.co...et-you-killed/

LYNDA

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wrote in message
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I read this article my friend sent to me that
says biking can be dangerous, what do you think.

http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.co...g-to-work-get-
you-killed/

LYNDA

Troll or not,

Sadly, a very timely article. Just yesterday I read in the local paper a
guy here got killed in this small town riding his bike to work. He rides
his bike everyday to work at Happy Burger. Well, when he didn't show up
to work, the boss Mr. Fritz called his family which said he did in fact
leave for work.

Look, let's be serious about this. Accidents do happen, and they're very
sad when they do. But cycling is about 50% safer, per kilometer travelled,
than walking (source: Department for Transport); and there is on average
one fatal accident in the UK for every twenty one and a half million miles
cycled (source: Office for National Statistics). We're not talking about a
dangerous activity here. We're talking about a very, very safe activity.

--
(Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

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Simon Brooke wrote:

Look, let's be serious about this. Accidents do happen, and they're
very sad when they do. But cycling is about 50% safer, per kilometer
travelled, than walking (source: Department for Transport); and there
is on average one fatal accident in the UK for every twenty one and a
half million miles cycled (source: Office for National Statistics).
We're not talking about a dangerous activity here. We're talking about
a very, very safe activity.


snort Maybe if you ride like a girl.

--
Bill Asher

"William Asher" wrote in message
...
Simon Brooke wrote:

Look, let's be serious about this. Accidents do happen, and they're
very sad when they do. But cycling is about 50% safer, per kilometer
travelled, than walking (source: Department for Transport); and there
is on average one fatal accident in the UK for every twenty one and a
half million miles cycled (source: Office for National Statistics).
We're not talking about a dangerous activity here. We're talking about
a very, very safe activity.


snort Maybe if you ride like a girl.

The best riders NEVER fall down. I suppose that neatly classifies you Asher.

Tom Kunich wrote:

snip
The best riders NEVER fall down. I suppose that neatly classifies you
Asher.

Why is it that when I am out trolling for bluefin all I can catch are
goddamned cunners?

http://www.thejump.net/id/cunner.htm

--
Bill Asher