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  #31  
Old August 2nd 17, 11:11 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
James[_8_]
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Default Look pedals falling apart

On 02/08/17 23:58, wrote:
On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 6:57:19 PM UTC-7, James wrote:



There is no bolt like that on my Look Keo 2 Max pedals. The
"Blade" must be something different.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOOK-KEO-QUA...kAAOSwfpVZIg3H

This was the original axle shape. Notice that the replacement is on
the left side.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Look-Keo-2-M...kAAOSwuLZY0V~H

If you look at this you can see that the lock bolt has been moved to
the outside and a plastic end cap is installed over it.


After investigation, it is as I said. The "Blade" is a different
product. It uses a glass fibre flat spring instead of a steel coil
spring.

There is no lock bolt on the Look Keo 2 Max pedals.

--
JS
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  #32  
Old August 3rd 17, 01:51 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
JBeattie
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Default Look pedals falling apart

On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 3:12:07 PM UTC-7, James wrote:
On 02/08/17 23:58, wrote:
On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 6:57:19 PM UTC-7, James wrote:



There is no bolt like that on my Look Keo 2 Max pedals. The
"Blade" must be something different.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOOK-KEO-QUA...kAAOSwfpVZIg3H

This was the original axle shape. Notice that the replacement is on
the left side.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Look-Keo-2-M...kAAOSwuLZY0V~H

If you look at this you can see that the lock bolt has been moved to
the outside and a plastic end cap is installed over it.


After investigation, it is as I said. The "Blade" is a different
product. It uses a glass fibre flat spring instead of a steel coil
spring.

There is no lock bolt on the Look Keo 2 Max pedals.

--
JS


You're right. Compa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQsRGr6R6bo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgaty1tpfGg

The Blades use a retaining bolt ala pedals of yore while the Max uses the threaded collar on the spindle.

-- Jay Beattie.
  #33  
Old August 3rd 17, 03:30 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Duane[_4_]
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Default Look pedals falling apart

jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 3:12:07 PM UTC-7, James wrote:
On 02/08/17 23:58, wrote:
On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 6:57:19 PM UTC-7, James wrote:



There is no bolt like that on my Look Keo 2 Max pedals. The
"Blade" must be something different.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOOK-KEO-QUA...kAAOSwfpVZIg3H

This was the original axle shape. Notice that the replacement is on
the left side.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Look-Keo-2-M...kAAOSwuLZY0V~H

If you look at this you can see that the lock bolt has been moved to
the outside and a plastic end cap is installed over it.


After investigation, it is as I said. The "Blade" is a different
product. It uses a glass fibre flat spring instead of a steel coil
spring.

There is no lock bolt on the Look Keo 2 Max pedals.

--
JS


You're right. Compa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQsRGr6R6bo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgaty1tpfGg

The Blades use a retaining bolt ala pedals of yore while the Max uses the
threaded collar on the spindle.


Yep.

--
duane
  #34  
Old August 3rd 17, 04:54 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
James[_8_]
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Default Look pedals falling apart

On 03/08/17 10:51, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 3:12:07 PM UTC-7, James wrote:
On 02/08/17 23:58, wrote:
On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 6:57:19 PM UTC-7, James wrote:



There is no bolt like that on my Look Keo 2 Max pedals. The
"Blade" must be something different.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOOK-KEO-QUA...kAAOSwfpVZIg3H



This was the original axle shape. Notice that the replacement is on
the left side.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Look-Keo-2-M...kAAOSwuLZY0V~H



If you look at this you can see that the lock bolt has been moved to
the outside and a plastic end cap is installed over it.


After investigation, it is as I said. The "Blade" is a different
product. It uses a glass fibre flat spring instead of a steel coil
spring.

There is no lock bolt on the Look Keo 2 Max pedals.


You're right. Compa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQsRGr6R6bo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgaty1tpfGg

The Blades use a retaining bolt ala pedals of yore while the Max uses
the threaded collar on the spindle.


Further to this, I just checked my Look Keo 2 Max "Carbon" pedals, and
the _RHS_ pedal threaded collar on the spindle has a *left hand* thread,
where as the _LHS_ pedal threaded collar has a *right hand* thread.

The opposite "handedness" to the axle/crank threads.

One would expect that the Frogs would understand the process by which
pedals don't normally loosen from cranks by now, and have chosen the
thread direction of the threaded collar to also not loosen under
_normal_ riding conditions.

I note that if the pedal bearing is near seized, the action of pedalling
can override the normal precession force, and in which case the pedal
will unwind from the crank.

I also took a moment to check out my Shimano double sided SPD pedals on
the MTB. PD-M540. The construction of the bearing retaining assembly
looks remarkably similar. A threaded collar on the spindle.

In this video, the author also notes that the LHS pedal collar is RH
threaded and vice versa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utLU4kAHk_Q

--
JS
  #35  
Old August 3rd 17, 04:08 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
AMuzi
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Default Look pedals falling apart

On 8/2/2017 10:54 PM, James wrote:
On 03/08/17 10:51, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 3:12:07 PM UTC-7, James
wrote:
On 02/08/17 23:58, wrote:
On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 6:57:19 PM UTC-7, James
wrote:


There is no bolt like that on my Look Keo 2 Max
pedals. The
"Blade" must be something different.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOOK-KEO-QUA...kAAOSwfpVZIg3H




This was the original axle shape. Notice that the
replacement is on
the left side.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Look-Keo-2-M...kAAOSwuLZY0V~H




If you look at this you can see that the lock bolt has been
moved to
the outside and a plastic end cap is installed over it.


After investigation, it is as I said. The "Blade" is a
different
product. It uses a glass fibre flat spring instead of a
steel coil
spring.

There is no lock bolt on the Look Keo 2 Max pedals.


You're right. Compa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQsRGr6R6bo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgaty1tpfGg

The Blades use a retaining bolt ala pedals of yore while
the Max uses
the threaded collar on the spindle.


Further to this, I just checked my Look Keo 2 Max "Carbon"
pedals, and the _RHS_ pedal threaded collar on the spindle
has a *left hand* thread, where as the _LHS_ pedal threaded
collar has a *right hand* thread.

The opposite "handedness" to the axle/crank threads.

One would expect that the Frogs would understand the process
by which pedals don't normally loosen from cranks by now,
and have chosen the thread direction of the threaded collar
to also not loosen under _normal_ riding conditions.

I note that if the pedal bearing is near seized, the action
of pedalling can override the normal precession force, and
in which case the pedal will unwind from the crank.

I also took a moment to check out my Shimano double sided
SPD pedals on the MTB. PD-M540. The construction of the
bearing retaining assembly looks remarkably similar. A
threaded collar on the spindle.

In this video, the author also notes that the LHS pedal
collar is RH threaded and vice versa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utLU4kAHk_Q


Reverse body thread on the chain side is in keeping with
reverse spindle threads on the off side.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


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Old August 5th 17, 04:27 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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