Blame the faulty drivers of dangerous machinery. 4WDs most dangerouson road

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The car accident that left the daughter of former Wallaby skipper Phil
Kearns with life-threatening injuries has reignited demands for upgraded
safety on four-wheel drives.


How about upgraded situational awareness for ALL drivers?

How about tyargetting the biggest killers first.

How about dealing with faulty owners of dangerous
machinery that is involved
in a disproportionate number of child fatalities...

"I bought a 4WD for my families safety" - Pigs Arse


Nineteen-month-old Andie Kearns remains on a respirator in a critical but
stable condition in The Children's Hospital, Randwick, after she was
accidentally run over by her father in the driveway of the family home on
Saturday.


Very sad. I hope the little tike gets well soon. But raging against a
machine, be it a 4WD or a centrfire rifle, serves no purpose. The machines
can't hear you, and aren't to blam anyway.


A diahatsu charade has a rear blind spot of a few metres when a
two year old is standing behind it.

For a 4WD its over 15 metres.

4WDs are responsible for 50% of driveway killings of toddlers,
sedans, despite being much more common, only 20%.

I would say, you do the maths, but I don't think you can.


"People buy them (4WDs) thinking they're safe, but they simply are not,"
Mr Scruby said.

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4WD owners 'compensating'
By David Crawshaw
28jun05

FOUR-wheel drive owners will often tell you they chose their vehicles for
safety reasons.

But Pedestrian Council of Australia chairman Harold Scruby reckons it has
less to do with safety and more to do with compensating for anatomical
deficiencies.

"There's a Freudian factor; certain people have to buy these large cars
because they're missing elsewhere," Mr Scruby said today.

"The majority of drivers see (4WD owners) as aggressive and arrogant –
it's a certain type of person who has to have one of these vehicles and
sit above everyone else."

Mr Scruby today called for the removal of tariff reductions for 4WDs as a
study showed what many already suspected – that 4WDs are the most
dangerous cars on the road.

The Monash University study found 4WDs were far more likely than
conventional vehicles to kill or maim other road users.

Mr Scruby, who drives a Subaru Outback, said it was hard to tell to what
degree the people driving 4WDs were responsible for the high injury
rates, and how much was due to the physical nature of 4WDs.

It was not really possible to improve safety for the occupants of one
vehicle in a crash without compromising safety for the occupants of the
other, he said.

Mr Scruby called on the Federal Government to scrap tariff reductions on
4WD vehicles, and to apply lower tariffs to safer vehicles.

People who genuinely needed 4WDs, such as those in remote areas, could be
exempted from increased tariffs, he said.

But elsewhere 4WDs should be "taxed off the road".

"I don't think people in Mosman and Toorak should be getting these
vehicles at 5-per-cent tax when a Corolla is taxed at 10 per cent," Mr
Scruby said.

He also took aim at young drivers in regional areas who drove souped-up
utes often adorned with bullbars, aerials and stickers.

"In the bush every young driver wants to drive a Holden ute with a
bullbar," he said.

"It's a testosterone thing, it's all about 'mine is bigger than yours'."

NRMA vehicle policy expert Jack Haley said the high rate of injuries
caused by 4WDs was due to the type of vehicle involved, not the behaviour
of 4WD drivers.

The same tariffs should be applied to all cars, Mr Haley said.

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The car accident that left the daughter of former Wallaby skipper Phil
Kearns with life-threatening injuries has reignited demands for upgraded
safety on four-wheel drives.


How about upgraded situational awareness for ALL drivers?

How about tyargetting the biggest killers first.

How about dealing with faulty owners of dangerous
machinery that is involved
in a disproportionate number of child fatalities...

"I bought a 4WD for my families safety" - Pigs Arse


Nineteen-month-old Andie Kearns remains on a respirator in a critical but
stable condition in The Children's Hospital, Randwick, after she was
accidentally run over by her father in the driveway of the family home on
Saturday.


Very sad. I hope the little tike gets well soon. But raging against a
machine, be it a 4WD or a centrfire rifle, serves no purpose. The
machines
can't hear you, and aren't to blam anyway.


A diahatsu charade has a rear blind spot of a few metres when a
two year old is standing behind it.

For a 4WD its over 15 metres.

4WDs are responsible for 50% of driveway killings of toddlers,
sedans, despite being much more common, only 20%.

I would say, you do the maths, but I don't think you can.

Figures I heard cars run over 90% of pedestrians, they should be banned.







"People buy them (4WDs) thinking they're safe, but they simply are not,"
Mr Scruby said.

http://www.thecouriermail.news.com.a...5936,15755676%
255E1702,00.html

4WD owners 'compensating'
By David Crawshaw
28jun05

FOUR-wheel drive owners will often tell you they chose their vehicles for
safety reasons.

But Pedestrian Council of Australia chairman Harold Scruby reckons it has
less to do with safety and more to do with compensating for anatomical
deficiencies.

"There's a Freudian factor; certain people have to buy these large cars
because they're missing elsewhere," Mr Scruby said today.

"The majority of drivers see (4WD owners) as aggressive and arrogant –
it's a certain type of person who has to have one of these vehicles and
sit above everyone else."

Mr Scruby today called for the removal of tariff reductions for 4WDs as a
study showed what many already suspected – that 4WDs are the most
dangerous cars on the road.

The Monash University study found 4WDs were far more likely than
conventional vehicles to kill or maim other road users.

Mr Scruby, who drives a Subaru Outback, said it was hard to tell to what
degree the people driving 4WDs were responsible for the high injury
rates, and how much was due to the physical nature of 4WDs.

It was not really possible to improve safety for the occupants of one
vehicle in a crash without compromising safety for the occupants of the
other, he said.

Mr Scruby called on the Federal Government to scrap tariff reductions on
4WD vehicles, and to apply lower tariffs to safer vehicles.

People who genuinely needed 4WDs, such as those in remote areas, could be
exempted from increased tariffs, he said.

But elsewhere 4WDs should be "taxed off the road".

"I don't think people in Mosman and Toorak should be getting these
vehicles at 5-per-cent tax when a Corolla is taxed at 10 per cent," Mr
Scruby said.

He also took aim at young drivers in regional areas who drove souped-up
utes often adorned with bullbars, aerials and stickers.

"In the bush every young driver wants to drive a Holden ute with a
bullbar," he said.

"It's a testosterone thing, it's all about 'mine is bigger than yours'."

NRMA vehicle policy expert Jack Haley said the high rate of injuries
caused by 4WDs was due to the type of vehicle involved, not the behaviour
of 4WD drivers.

The same tariffs should be applied to all cars, Mr Haley said.

"Rainbow Warrior" wrote :
Figures I heard cars run over 90% of pedestrians, they should be banned.

Far-canal; who's running over the other 10%?
Trucks and busses? (Surely motorcycles aren't making a tangible
contribution!)
Knob

Knobdoodle wrote:
"Rainbow Warrior" wrote :
Figures I heard cars run over 90% of pedestrians, they should be
banned.
Far-canal; who's running over the other 10%?
Trucks and busses? (Surely motorcycles aren't making a tangible
contribution!)

Cyclists on footpaths probably.

Hi Clem, getting a pushy?

Theo

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The car accident that left the daughter of former Wallaby skipper Phil
Kearns with life-threatening injuries has reignited demands for upgraded
safety on four-wheel drives.


How about upgraded situational awareness for ALL drivers?

How about tyargetting the biggest killers first.

How about dealing with faulty owners of dangerous
machinery that is involved
in a disproportionate number of child fatalities...

"I bought a 4WD for my families safety" - Pigs Arse


Nineteen-month-old Andie Kearns remains on a respirator in a critical but
stable condition in The Children's Hospital, Randwick, after she was
accidentally run over by her father in the driveway of the family home on
Saturday.


Very sad. I hope the little tike gets well soon. But raging against a
machine, be it a 4WD or a centrfire rifle, serves no purpose. The
machines
can't hear you, and aren't to blam anyway.


A diahatsu charade has a rear blind spot of a few metres when a
two year old is standing behind it.

For a 4WD its over 15 metres.

4WDs are responsible for 50% of driveway killings of toddlers,
sedans, despite being much more common, only 20%.

I would say, you do the maths, but I don't think you can.

Figures I heard cars run over 90% of pedestrians, they should be banned.

Don't pay any attention to stupid little faggy arse. He wouldn't know a
real fourbie from his mother's arsehole. Little faggy arse has the
****s with anybody who has anything more than he does, which, since he
is a dole bludging uni******, is almost the total White Australian
population.

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The car accident that left the daughter of former Wallaby skipper Phil
Kearns with life-threatening injuries has reignited demands for upgraded
safety on four-wheel drives.


How about upgraded situational awareness for ALL drivers?

How about tyargetting the biggest killers first.

How about dealing with faulty owners of dangerous
machinery that is involved
in a disproportionate number of child fatalities...

"I bought a 4WD for my families safety" - Pigs Arse


Nineteen-month-old Andie Kearns remains on a respirator in a critical but
stable condition in The Children's Hospital, Randwick, after she was
accidentally run over by her father in the driveway of the family home on
Saturday.


Very sad. I hope the little tike gets well soon. But raging against a
machine, be it a 4WD or a centrfire rifle, serves no purpose. The
machines
can't hear you, and aren't to blam anyway.


A diahatsu charade has a rear blind spot of a few metres when a
two year old is standing behind it.

For a 4WD its over 15 metres.

4WDs are responsible for 50% of driveway killings of toddlers,
sedans, despite being much more common, only 20%.

I would say, you do the maths, but I don't think you can.

Figures I heard cars run over 90% of pedestrians, they should be banned.


Don't pay any attention to stupid little faggy arse.

With his absurd claim that only 10% of pedestrians survive
cars, who would believe him. (But I don't think his role
as butt-boy for the car companies is a nice way for you
to criticise him ;-)

He wouldn't know a real fourbie from his mother's arsehole.

So math's is not his only disability?


Little faggy arse has the ****s with anybody
who has anything more than he does,

So he is one of those people who thinks his 4WD is
a status symbol which makes others jealous? What
a sad little tosser he, and you, must be.

And quite incapable of rationally debating the figures,
which show how dangerous he and his machinery are.

which, since he is a dole bludging uni******,
is almost the total White Australian population.

How can one person be almost the entire White Australian
population? Clearly you are a relative of his and share his
ineptitude with maths.

Or perhaps both of you are mewling infants, in which
case I suggest you don't stand behind 4WD's

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The car accident that left the daughter of former Wallaby skipper Phil
Kearns with life-threatening injuries has reignited demands for
upgraded
safety on four-wheel drives.

How about upgraded situational awareness for ALL drivers?

How about tyargetting the biggest killers first.

How about dealing with faulty owners of dangerous
machinery that is involved
in a disproportionate number of child fatalities...

"I bought a 4WD for my families safety" - Pigs Arse

Nineteen-month-old Andie Kearns remains on a respirator in a critical
but
stable condition in The Children's Hospital, Randwick, after she was
accidentally run over by her father in the driveway of the family home
on
Saturday.

Very sad. I hope the little tike gets well soon. But raging against a
machine, be it a 4WD or a centrfire rifle, serves no purpose. The
machines
can't hear you, and aren't to blam anyway.

A diahatsu charade has a rear blind spot of a few metres when a
two year old is standing behind it.

For a 4WD its over 15 metres.

4WDs are responsible for 50% of driveway killings of toddlers,
sedans, despite being much more common, only 20%.

I would say, you do the maths, but I don't think you can.

Figures I heard cars run over 90% of pedestrians, they should be banned.

Don't pay any attention to stupid little faggy arse.

With his absurd claim that only 10% of pedestrians survive
cars, who would believe him. (But I don't think his role
as butt-boy for the car companies is a nice way for you
to criticise him ;-)

He wouldn't know a real fourbie from his mother's arsehole.

So math's is not his only disability?

Little faggy arse has the ****s with anybody
who has anything more than he does,

So he is one of those people who thinks his 4WD is
a status symbol which makes others jealous? What
a sad little tosser he, and you, must be.

Yeah I regularly reckon other people are jealos of my 15 year old dented
scratched faded white pov pack 4WD ute , it's a super status symbol.

And quite incapable of rationally debating the figures,
which show how dangerous he and his machinery are.

Dangerous is the point, I say over 80kw and wide mags are dangerous too.

some dole bludging wannabe calling itself faggy arse ****ed and moaned,
farted, **** its pants and blurted out:
**** all of any use to Australian road users.

Try again, faggoty arse, after you stop your juvenile dummy spit and
try using coherent English.

There's a shrink term for you, you little mildewed weasel, something
like "penis envy." You don't have what others have so you dream up all
the excuses under the sun why they should not have what they do have.
It won't work, ****face. Your ****y little left wing wanking will not
change anything. Those of us who own and use four wheel drives will
continue to do s, for work and/or for recreation, in spite of the
impotent ravings of fools like you and that ****wit scruby. Just in
case you're wondering, little skate board dole bludger, I own two four
wheel drives, and have five more on lease, all five are somewhere up in
the Gulf of Carpentaria carrying full loads of tourists. And here's the
kicker, little boy, all five are earning me a ****load of cash.

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some dole bludging wannabe calling itself faggy arse ****ed and moaned,
farted, **** its pants and blurted out:
**** all of any use to Australian road users.

Try again, faggoty arse, after you stop your juvenile dummy spit and
try using coherent English.

There's a shrink term for you, you little mildewed weasel, something
like "penis envy." You don't have what others have so you dream up all
the excuses under the sun why they should not have what they do have.
It won't work, ****face. Your ****y little left wing wanking will not
change anything. Those of us who own and use four wheel drives will
continue to do s, for work and/or for recreation, in spite of the
impotent ravings of fools like you and that ****wit scruby. Just in
case you're wondering, little skate board dole bludger, I own two four
wheel drives, and have five more on lease, all five are somewhere up in
the Gulf of Carpentaria carrying full loads of tourists. And here's the
kicker, little boy, all five are earning me a ****load of cash.


See, that's what I love when we get together...the reasoned debate, the
subtle nuanced interplay of logic and passion, conveyed by the most
carefully chosen phrases. I particularly like "left wing wanking" and "skate
board [sic] dole bludger". It couldn't more clearly express what a
testosterone fuelled, beer gutted, knee-jerk thinking couch potato you
really are. Have fun with the trucks. We'll be here to tell you how to
adjust your saddle when petrol's $15/litre.

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ups.com...
some dole bludging wannabe calling itself faggy arse ****ed and moaned,
farted, **** its pants and blurted out:
**** all of any use to Australian road users.

Try again, faggoty arse, after you stop your juvenile dummy spit and
try using coherent English.

There's a shrink term for you, you little mildewed weasel, something
like "penis envy." You don't have what others have so you dream up all
the excuses under the sun why they should not have what they do have.
It won't work, ****face. Your ****y little left wing wanking will not
change anything. Those of us who own and use four wheel drives will
continue to do s, for work and/or for recreation, in spite of the
impotent ravings of fools like you and that ****wit scruby. Just in
case you're wondering, little skate board dole bludger, I own two four
wheel drives, and have five more on lease, all five are somewhere up in
the Gulf of Carpentaria carrying full loads of tourists. And here's the
kicker, little boy, all five are earning me a ****load of cash.

Hey! Good spray!
I wonder about it though. I haven't seen anyone griping about 4WDs used for
their intended purpose. What I do see, though, is 4WD owners getting all
defensive when someone questions their toys. Seems to support what the
articles say...

Frank