Blame the faulty drivers of dangerous machinery. 4WDs most dangerouson road

Peka wrote:

Tamyka Bell Wrote:
If you go up in the air and aren't unconsious, you've got a good chance
of preparing yourself so you don't fall too badly. I've fallen from a
trapeze and ended up with a bruised, stiff back for 2 weeks and no
concussion or breaks.

That's a pretty dangerous assumption to be making. I know how to fall
from many years of martial arts training (not to mention all the stupid
things I did as a kid), but the times I've come off my motorbike there
was absolutely nothing I could do to influence how I fell. If you are
on a trapeze, there is some expectation that you may fall, so you are
somewhat prepared. If you are in the air all of a sudden, without
having been prepared for it, by the time you think about how you want
to land you've already hit the ground.

When I am on a trapeze, there is no expectation that I may fall; no more
than when cornering on a bike, for example, or trying to ride over a log
(actually in the latter case there is an expectation of falling, lately,
so ignore that one). No more than when I'm out for a run and I trip over
something. "I know how to fall from many years of martial arts training"
also. When I fell, I was spinning around the bar pretty rapidly. I'd
done it about 300 times before and never fallen. There was no
expectation. I didn't even think I was falling until I had already hit
the ground and heard the breakfall. I didn't think about it. You're
right, there's no time to think. But it's not about thinking. It's about
instinct. Your body knows how to land. But it takes a finite amount of
time to get into the right position.

Tam

Tamyka Bell Wrote:
When I am on a trapeze, there is no expectation that I may fall; no more
than when cornering on a bike, for example, or trying to ride over a log
(actually in the latter case there is an expectation of falling, lately,
so ignore that one)Heh, after all this rain I'm certainly expecting to fall tomorrow
morning in Daisy Hill forest


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Peka

Pushbikes aren't allowed in the Burnley Tunnel. Taking them in there was an
illegal act. But the politicians were too ****ant to let the cops do their
jobs and arrest the ******s.

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"It's ballistics, not rocket-science."

Me.
"Resound" wrote in message
...

PS, those pushbike-riding ******s who have their little (illegal)
protests
and block roads around Melbourne in peak hour do you a disservice.


Actually they're not illegal (which is rather the point) but I agree with
you.

Yeah, well, I used to be a shooter, but don't get me started on
that................

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"It's ballistics, not rocket-science."

Me.

"Noddy" wrote in message
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"Brash" wrote in message
u...

I still ride my motorbike when I'm not driving my 4WD or one of work's
trucks. I ride a pushbike to and from work, without any problems. And I
don't think I'm morally superior because of my choice of conveyance.

Jesus...

You cover all demographics and have nothing to complain about. You
obviously slipped through the government process of turning everyone into
whinging wimps during the '80's

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Regards,
Noddy.

Kev wrote:
No ya goose
8x4, twin steer bogey drive

those bloody rought riding things usually in ACCO form


Ah, now I'm with you:-)
I haven't had the misfortune to drive one of those, the 12 tonner Hino
with a lazy axle that I drove for about 6mths was bad enough.



Daryl

Aeek wrote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:45:32 +1000, D Walford wrote:


Do you mean 18 wheeler, but you know I drive one of those?


Daryl

My attitude to you has just improved imeasurably.
You HAVE to know that you are driving a very large blunt object.

Something that bicycles and heavies have in common:
We're all under the same road rules, right?
Hah, same rule book perhaps but different exceptions apply.
And we are both sharing the roads with cars who think they know better.
(Wrong about cyclists, ignorant about heavies.)

I never had to learn about the heavy differences to get my car licence.
It was only when I couldn't find what I was supposed to be doing, as a cyclist,
in the car orientated handbooks so I looked at the actual legislation.
So heavies don't have to turn right from the right. Makes sense, sometimes you can't.
Why aren't car drivers expected to know this? Unsafe!.

Car drivers certainly need to be taught that they aren't the only
vehicles on the road.



Daryl

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 15:26:54 +1000, D Walford wrote:


Ah, now I'm with you:-)
I haven't had the misfortune to drive one of those, the 12 tonner Hino
with a lazy axle that I drove for about 6mths was bad enough.

I have not driven an ACCO for a long time but I remember driving an old
Acco prime mover which had a IH big block Petrol V8 but I almost always
cried each time I saw a hill coming up! It sounded great but it was bloody
gutless and Jesus did it drink!.

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Regards
Dan

D Walford wrote:

Aeek wrote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:45:32 +1000, D Walford wrote:


Do you mean 18 wheeler, but you know I drive one of those?


Daryl

My attitude to you has just improved imeasurably.
You HAVE to know that you are driving a very large blunt object.

Something that bicycles and heavies have in common:
We're all under the same road rules, right?
Hah, same rule book perhaps but different exceptions apply.
And we are both sharing the roads with cars who think they know better.
(Wrong about cyclists, ignorant about heavies.)

I never had to learn about the heavy differences to get my car licence.
It was only when I couldn't find what I was supposed to be doing, as a cyclist,
in the car orientated handbooks so I looked at the actual legislation.
So heavies don't have to turn right from the right. Makes sense, sometimes you can't.
Why aren't car drivers expected to know this? Unsafe!.

Car drivers certainly need to be taught that they aren't the only
vehicles on the road.

Daryl

See, I was taught that (about heavies)... My instructor was very
thorough and spoke a lot about other road users. Why are driving schools
not teaching the same things? Tam

Peka wrote:

Tamyka Bell Wrote:
When I am on a trapeze, there is no expectation that I may fall; no more
than when cornering on a bike, for example, or trying to ride over a log
(actually in the latter case there is an expectation of falling, lately,
so ignore that one)Heh, after all this rain I'm certainly expecting to fall tomorrow
morning in Daisy Hill forest

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Peka

Oooh why the morning? If you waited until arvo, I could join you. For a
couple of minutes at a time. (I don't need rain to fall in Daisy Hill. I
don't even need an obstacle. All I need is a bike) Tam

Birdman wrote:
I only ever drove 2 DAFs, didnt like em, but then I was coming out of
a W model Kenworth, and used to the bonnet, and going cabover and wide
cab was different..

Your choice for the DAF?


The boss pays so he gets to choose:-)
His fleet is 95% Kenworth, my DAF is the only non Kenworth prime mover
in the fleet.
I would choose the DAF even if I was paying, its very comfortable and
very well equipped and its perfectly suited to the job.
I think the main reason the boss bought another DAF is its amazing fuel
economy, some of the Kenworths use more fuel per day than I do in a week.



Daryl