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Old October 20th 10, 08:32 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
Doug[_10_]
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Default More dangerous drivers who put cyclists seriously at risk.

Its never ending isn't it? It could also explain deliberate road-rage
rammings of cyclists.

" DISTRACTED MOTHERS
79% regularly take eyes off road to look after children
69% regularly break speed limits
54% have jumped traffic lights
47% have driven aggressively
37% have cut up other cars
35% forget to belt youngsters up
Source: Autoglass poll of 500 mothers"

And then they have the damned cheek to moan about cyclists!

"Anti-depressants 'could harm driving'

Up to one million motorists in the UK could suffer the side-effects of
anti-depressant drugs which can include aggression, dizziness and
blurred vision, the RAC has warned.

On the same day a poll suggested nearly 75% of mothers admitted to
making serious road safety blunders while driving their children
around.

The RAC Foundation, the motoring organisation's campaigning arm, wants
more research into the dangers of driving while on anti-depressant
medication, and a campaign to highlight the possible risks..."

Mo
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2834029.stm

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Old October 20th 10, 08:48 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
mileburner
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Default More dangerous drivers who put cyclists seriously at risk.


"Doug" wrote in message
...
Its never ending isn't it? It could also explain deliberate road-rage
rammings of cyclists.

" DISTRACTED MOTHERS
79% regularly take eyes off road to look after children
69% regularly break speed limits
54% have jumped traffic lights
47% have driven aggressively
37% have cut up other cars
35% forget to belt youngsters up
Source: Autoglass poll of 500 mothers"

And then they have the damned cheek to moan about cyclists!

"Anti-depressants 'could harm driving'

Up to one million motorists in the UK could suffer the side-effects of
anti-depressant drugs which can include aggression, dizziness and
blurred vision, the RAC has warned.

On the same day a poll suggested nearly 75% of mothers admitted to
making serious road safety blunders while driving their children
around.

The RAC Foundation, the motoring organisation's campaigning arm, wants
more research into the dangers of driving while on anti-depressant
medication, and a campaign to highlight the possible risks..."

Mo
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2834029.stm


They should never have granted licences to wimmin so readily.

They should be on bikes until they have the experience required to learn to
drive a car.


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Old October 20th 10, 08:50 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
nightjar
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Default More dangerous drivers who put cyclists seriously at risk.

On 20/10/2010 08:32, Doug wrote:
....
" DISTRACTED MOTHERS
79% regularly take eyes off road to look after children
69% regularly break speed limits
54% have jumped traffic lights
47% have driven aggressively
37% have cut up other cars
35% forget to belt youngsters up
Source: Autoglass poll of 500 mothers"

And then they have the damned cheek to moan about cyclists!


Can you point to any post from a distracted mother motorist who has
moaned about cyclists?

The results of this survey are unlikely to come as a surprise to any
road user with any degree of awareness of their environment and other
motorists will be just as concerned about the problem.

"Anti-depressants 'could harm driving'

Up to one million motorists in the UK could suffer the side-effects of
anti-depressant drugs which can include aggression, dizziness and
blurred vision, the RAC has warned...


They make a valid point about the need for further research. However, in
the absence of any definite information it would be equally valid to say
that they could be completely free from any side effects.

Colin Bignell
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Old October 20th 10, 02:10 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
Norman Wells[_10_]
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Nightjar "cpb"@" wrote:
On 20/10/2010 11:30, Norman Wells wrote:
Nightjar "cpb"@" wrote:

...
IME the manufacturer's information is not entirely reliable. I was
put onto one medication and went back to my GP with a side effect
which the manufacturer's data said was rare. My GP started to ask
other patients on the dame drug and found that around 25% of them
had the same side effect, but had not associated it with taking the
drug.


Ah, the wonderful power of suggestion. The same as makes people think
their horoscope is accurate.


You mean that by asking people on the drug whether they were
experiencing any unusual symptoms, which is how my GP went about it,
he suggested to them that they all had exactly the same one?


It depends of course on exactly how he did it. "Have you had a headache
recently?" might elicit a large amount of positive responses not related at
all to the drug at all.

Doctors report adverse side effects as a matter of course.


Assuming they are aware of them, which presumes that their patients
tell them about them. A very large percentage of people simply take
what the doctor prescribes without question.


If patients don't tell their doctor, the side effects are obviously not very
significant or important.

What would be the point of reporting them?

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Old October 20th 10, 04:52 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
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"Doug" wrote in message
...
Its never ending isn't it? It could also explain deliberate road-rage
rammings of cyclists.

" DISTRACTED MOTHERS
79% regularly take eyes off road to look after children
69% regularly break speed limits
54% have jumped traffic lights
47% have driven aggressively
37% have cut up other cars
35% forget to belt youngsters up
Source: Autoglass poll of 500 mothers"

And then they have the damned cheek to moan about cyclists!

"Anti-depressants 'could harm driving'

Up to one million motorists in the UK could suffer the side-effects of
anti-depressant drugs which can include aggression, dizziness and
blurred vision, the RAC has warned.

On the same day a poll suggested nearly 75% of mothers admitted to
making serious road safety blunders while driving their children
around.

The RAC Foundation, the motoring organisation's campaigning arm, wants
more research into the dangers of driving while on anti-depressant
medication, and a campaign to highlight the possible risks..."

Mo
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2834029.stm

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You are as bad as that other prat - Mason or something.
Get a life.

Mr Pounder



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Old October 20th 10, 07:18 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
nightjar
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On 20/10/2010 14:10, Norman Wells wrote:
....
If patients don't tell their doctor, the side effects are obviously not
very significant or important.


That is an invalid assumption. There are many things, such as the
increased aggression mentioned in the article, that the patient may not
even be aware of.

Colin Bignell
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Old October 20th 10, 07:55 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
Mr Pounder
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"Doug" wrote in message
...
Its never ending isn't it? It could also explain deliberate road-rage
rammings of cyclists.

" DISTRACTED MOTHERS
79% regularly take eyes off road to look after children
69% regularly break speed limits
54% have jumped traffic lights
47% have driven aggressively
37% have cut up other cars
35% forget to belt youngsters up
Source: Autoglass poll of 500 mothers"

And then they have the damned cheek to moan about cyclists!

"Anti-depressants 'could harm driving'

Up to one million motorists in the UK could suffer the side-effects of
anti-depressant drugs which can include aggression, dizziness and
blurred vision, the RAC has warned.

On the same day a poll suggested nearly 75% of mothers admitted to
making serious road safety blunders while driving their children
around.

The RAC Foundation, the motoring organisation's campaigning arm, wants
more research into the dangers of driving while on anti-depressant
medication, and a campaign to highlight the possible risks..."

Mo
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2834029.stm

-- .
UK Radical Campaigns.
http://www.zing.icom43.net
A driving licence is a licence to kill.


When are you going to understand that the only people who give a flying ****
about cyclists are cyclists?

Mr Pounder



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Old October 21st 10, 09:30 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
Fredxx
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"Doug" wrote in message
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Its never ending isn't it? It could also explain deliberate road-rage
rammings of cyclists.


More?? Given the road death rate has gone down, including cyclist in terms
of mile cycled, I'm left wondering if more perhaps means less.


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Old October 22nd 10, 09:16 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
Norman Wells[_10_]
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Phil W Lee wrote:
"Norman Wells" considered Wed, 20 Oct 2010
14:10:14 +0100 the perfect time to write:

Doctors report adverse side effects as a matter of course.

Assuming they are aware of them, which presumes that their patients
tell them about them. A very large percentage of people simply take
what the doctor prescribes without question.


If patients don't tell their doctor, the side effects are obviously
not very significant or important.

What would be the point of reporting them?


In my experience, if you report a side effect that is already listed
on the patient information leaflet in any of the 5 categories ranging
from very common (1 in 10) to very rare (1 in 10,000) the result is
a complete lack of interest because it's already known about.
If you try to report anything that isn't already listed in the patient
information leaflet, nobody believes it and they look for another
cause.

In either case, I don't believe a typical GP would feed any
information back at all, unless the patient knew about the adverse
reaction reporting scheme and insisted, or the side effect was
extremely serious.


That's why the Yellow Card scheme exists for use by patients as well as
doctors. You personally can report any adverse side effect directly to the
MHRA:

http://yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk/the-yellow-card-scheme/

I have had personal experience of a gastric bleed caused by medication
that I do not believe was reported by any of the doctors who treated
me, despite it being listed as a rare (1 in 10,000 1 in 1,000) side
effect.

It strangely disappeared from the list of known side effects for that
drug shortly afterwards, which seems vanishingly unlikely if my case
had been reported.


If your doctor appeared uninterested, you should have reported it yourself.
However, the effect you observed was not necessarily 'caused by medication'
as you categorically state, and you only 'believe' that it was not reported
by any of the doctors who treated you.

 




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