The 2% difference

Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
"Robert Chung" wrote in message
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Claus Assmann wrote:

I don't know about Armstrong, but I've read that Jan Ulrich was
able to do [500 watts for an hour].
I don't think Ulrich was ever able to do that.

Does it matter? It's power to weight that makes the difference. A fit
230 pound cyclist (yes, there are some) will create very high average
power readings. But he's not going to be competitive as soon as the road
tilts up (never mind also the fact that everybody's going to line up
behind him and never take the lead on the flats...). That, of course, is
the extreme case. Then again, wasn't Ulrich? Or is it a myth that he was
heavier than he should have been?

On the flats power to frontal area is more important. Due to the typical
scaling between height, frontal area and mass, the best climbers are
generally small of stature, while the best time-trial riders are medium
sized.

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Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
If you are not a part of the solution, you are a part of the precipitate.

Derk ? wrote:
There are several reports that Jan Ullrich (sorry for the typo)
was able to do that:
I think Der Jan is undoubtedly one of the most talented cyclists we've ever
seen. It's a pity he didn't have more self control in winter.

Jan would whomp Lance at beer and bratwurst consumption!

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Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
If you are not a part of the solution, you are a part of the precipitate.

Tom Sherman wrote:

Jan would whomp Lance at beer and bratwurst consumption!
A newspaper here claimed that Jan's main weakness is chocolates.

Derk

Some of the best track racers are big boys.

Evidently. Here's a photo of the gold medal winners of the team 4K pursuit
at this week's World Cup race: http://tinyurl.com/6duvjo

You can they're 'stralian from the common sense of humor, what they're
all holding below their waists.
But how can you tell they are "big boys?"

http://tinyurl.com/6duvjo

Harry Travis

"Robert Chung" wrote in message
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Ryan Cousineau wrote:
Rather than quote much, I'll just extract the numbers and details.

Feb. 2004, Michele Ferrari does a lactic threshold test of Lance,
Floyd Landis, and George Hincapie on a road just outside of Girona,
Spain. 1000m long, 98 m of gain.

At the time of the test, Lance weighed 79.5 kg; his ideal tour weight
was given as 74 kg.

In this early-season test, Lance produced 470 W at lactate threshold.

Note that this was for a short-duration (1 km 10% climb).
Nonetheless,
the goal-number for Lance during the TdF was listed as 6.7 W/kg, and
if you do the math from his ideal weight, you get 496 W. That's a
number he can produce, at least, for a km, and I suspect that is
close (if not on) his 30 minute power.

Were he able to produce 470W for that particular test, that would be
for 3+ minutes. 3 minute power is nowhere near one hour power because
there's a substantial contribution at that duration from AWC-- for
most of us, it's maybe 15% higher than one hour power. If his 3 minute
power were only 10% higher than hour power, that'd mean an FTP in the
ballpark of 420-430 watts.
Andy Coggan's power tables indicate a 15% increase from 20 minute power
to 5 minute power (Cat 1 to world champ).

Phil H

"incredulous 2" wrote in message
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Some of the best track racers are big boys.

Evidently. Here's a photo of the gold medal winners of the team 4K
pursuit
at this week's World Cup race: http://tinyurl.com/6duvjo

You can they're 'stralian from the common sense of humor, what they're
all holding below their waists.

They're choking their emus!

Phil H