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Old November 21st 08, 01:28 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Qui si parla Campagnolo Qui si parla Campagnolo is offline
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Default Cyclingnews follies.

Article on Todd Wells cross bike,
"Wells was in the minority last season with his choice of a carbon
fiber handlebar but jumped on the bandwagon for '08 with a more
conventional KORE Road Elite model made of 7075 aluminum. Though he
likely misses the carbon bar's 50g weight savings, the aluminum bar's
durability advantage and grippier surface was apparently enough to
justify the switch.

Do ya suppose he misses that .06 of 1% weight savings?

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Old November 21st 08, 01:58 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:28:25 -0800 (PST), Qui si parla Campagnolo
wrote:

Article on Todd Wells cross bike,
"Wells was in the minority last season with his choice of a carbon
fiber handlebar but jumped on the bandwagon for '08 with a more
conventional KORE Road Elite model made of 7075 aluminum. Though he
likely misses the carbon bar's 50g weight savings, the aluminum bar's
durability advantage and grippier surface was apparently enough to
justify the switch.

Do ya suppose he misses that .06 of 1% weight savings?


Your math is way wrong..


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Old November 21st 08, 03:50 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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::
::: Article on Todd Wells cross bike,
::: "Wells was in the minority last season with his choice of a carbon
::: fiber handlebar but jumped on the bandwagon for '08 with a more
::: conventional KORE Road Elite model made of 7075 aluminum. Though he
::: likely misses the carbon bar's 50g weight savings, the aluminum
::: bar's durability advantage and grippier surface was apparently
::: enough to justify the switch.
:::
::: Do ya suppose he misses that .06 of 1% weight savings?
::
:: Your math is way wrong..

So. show us your math, then.

Pat in TX


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Old November 21st 08, 04:28 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:50:12 -0600, PatTX wrote:

::
::: Article on Todd Wells cross bike,
::: "Wells was in the minority last season with his choice of a carbon
::: fiber handlebar but jumped on the bandwagon for '08 with a more
::: conventional KORE Road Elite model made of 7075 aluminum. Though he
::: likely misses the carbon bar's 50g weight savings, the aluminum
::: bar's durability advantage and grippier surface was apparently
::: enough to justify the switch.
:::
::: Do ya suppose he misses that .06 of 1% weight savings?
::
:: Your math is way wrong..

So. show us your math, then.

Pat in TX


Come on, now Pat - you last name isn't Sornson, after all. 0.06 of 1% is
very VERY small; if a 50g saving is .0006 of the total, then that is a
very, VERY heavy handlebar. It's the sort of thing that should be obvious
from just looking at the numbers.
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Old November 21st 08, 04:44 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Cyclingnews follies.

Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:
Article on Todd Wells cross bike,
"Wells was in the minority last season with his choice of a carbon
fiber handlebar but jumped on the bandwagon for '08 with a more
conventional KORE Road Elite model made of 7075 aluminum. Though he
likely misses the carbon bar's 50g weight savings, the aluminum bar's
durability advantage and grippier surface was apparently enough to
justify the switch.
Do ya suppose he misses that .06 of 1% weight savings?


John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
Your math is way wrong..


Taking fifty grams from an 85kg bike+rider system, what did you get?
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Old November 21st 08, 04:46 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Nov 21, 9:50*am, "PatTX" wrote:
::
::: Article on Todd Wells cross bike,
::: "Wells was in the minority last season with his choice of a carbon
::: fiber handlebar but jumped on the bandwagon for '08 with a more
::: conventional KORE Road Elite model made of 7075 aluminum. Though he
::: likely misses the carbon bar's 50g weight savings, the aluminum
::: bar's durability advantage and grippier surface was apparently
::: enough to justify the switch.
:::
::: Do ya suppose he misses that .06 of 1% weight savings?
::
:: Your math is way wrong..

So. show us your math, then.

Pat in TX


http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech/2008...s_gtr_typecx08

8.17 kg total bike weight. 50 / 8170 grams is .006. Or 0.6% of total
weight.
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Old November 21st 08, 05:15 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Mike Rocket J Squirrel
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On 11/21/2008 8:44 AM A Muzi wrote:

Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:
Article on Todd Wells cross bike,
"Wells was in the minority last season with his choice of a carbon
fiber handlebar but jumped on the bandwagon for '08 with a more
conventional KORE Road Elite model made of 7075 aluminum. Though he
likely misses the carbon bar's 50g weight savings, the aluminum bar's
durability advantage and grippier surface was apparently enough to
justify the switch.
Do ya suppose he misses that .06 of 1% weight savings?


John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
Your math is way wrong..


Taking fifty grams from an 85kg bike+rider system, what did you get?


I get .06% -- but you said there wouldn't be any math.

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Old November 21st 08, 05:29 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Mike Rocket J Squirrel wrote:
On 11/21/2008 8:44 AM A Muzi wrote:

Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:
Article on Todd Wells cross bike,
"Wells was in the minority last season with his choice of a carbon
fiber handlebar but jumped on the bandwagon for '08 with a more
conventional KORE Road Elite model made of 7075 aluminum. Though he
likely misses the carbon bar's 50g weight savings, the aluminum bar's
durability advantage and grippier surface was apparently enough to
justify the switch.
Do ya suppose he misses that .06 of 1% weight savings?


John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
Your math is way wrong..


Taking fifty grams from an 85kg bike+rider system, what did you get?


I get .06% -- but you said there wouldn't be any math.



I said that? How about meth? I didn't say that either.
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Old November 21st 08, 05:36 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Nov 21, 10:28 am, _
wrote:
On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:50:12 -0600, PatTX wrote:
::
::: Article on Todd Wells cross bike,
::: "Wells was in the minority last season with his choice of a carbon
::: fiber handlebar but jumped on the bandwagon for '08 with a more
::: conventional KORE Road Elite model made of 7075 aluminum. Though he
::: likely misses the carbon bar's 50g weight savings, the aluminum
::: bar's durability advantage and grippier surface was apparently
::: enough to justify the switch.
:::
::: Do ya suppose he misses that .06 of 1% weight savings?
::
:: Your math is way wrong..


So. show us your math, then.


Pat in TX


Come on, now Pat - you last name isn't Sornson, after all. 0.06 of 1% is
very VERY small; if a 50g saving is .0006 of the total, then that is a
very, VERY heavy handlebar. It's the sort of thing that should be obvious
from just looking at the numbers.


Here's some "math" for ya:

The charm and wit of Dick Cheney + the hands-on bicycle knowledge of
G.W. Bush + the emotional stability of Martha Mitchell = "jtaylor".

;-)
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Old November 21st 08, 05:59 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Mike Rocket J Squirrel
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On 11/21/2008 9:29 AM A Muzi wrote:

Mike Rocket J Squirrel wrote:
On 11/21/2008 8:44 AM A Muzi wrote:

Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:
Article on Todd Wells cross bike,
"Wells was in the minority last season with his choice of a carbon
fiber handlebar but jumped on the bandwagon for '08 with a more
conventional KORE Road Elite model made of 7075 aluminum. Though he
likely misses the carbon bar's 50g weight savings, the aluminum bar's
durability advantage and grippier surface was apparently enough to
justify the switch.
Do ya suppose he misses that .06 of 1% weight savings?
John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
Your math is way wrong..
Taking fifty grams from an 85kg bike+rider system, what did you get?

I get .06% -- but you said there wouldn't be any math.



I said that? How about meth? I didn't say that either.


There's no meth?

Darn.

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