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Old November 16th 04, 10:28 PM
Dolfy
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brian roth wrote:

Quoted: "I want to prove to the world I can do this". --TP


But what about George?


Or Max

Or Jeki?

And that Belgium guy, what's is name again? :-)

:-)

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Old November 17th 04, 03:23 AM
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I am a bit suprised that Lance would choose Ronde of all classics.
Ronde is probably one of the riskiest and not all that prestigous. If
I were Lance I would choose Paris Roubaix.


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Old November 17th 04, 03:23 AM
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I am a bit suprised that Lance would choose Ronde of all classics.
Ronde is probably one of the riskiest and not all that prestigous. If
I were Lance I would choose Paris Roubaix.


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Old November 17th 04, 03:26 AM
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B. Lafferty wrote:
If we're talking post-WWII, I would add Louison Bobet.


Methink Patrick Sercu would come before Bobet.

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Old November 17th 04, 03:26 AM
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B. Lafferty wrote:
If we're talking post-WWII, I would add Louison Bobet.


Methink Patrick Sercu would come before Bobet.

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Old November 17th 04, 03:42 AM
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Jonathon,

I tend to disagree with you. Armstrong formerly was more of a Flanders man
IMHO than a LBL guy because he was muscular and powerful. Now Lance is
ideally suited for races like LBL, the Giro di Lombardia, Amstel (renamed
for '04) and other more undulating parcours. I just don't see him as the
tete de course in a race with a bunch of knarly cobbles.

Flanders is a hard man's race. Lance is smarter than stronger, and his
training programmed would have to change dramatically for him to be ready to
win the spring classics, especially if he intends on winning the Giro and/or
the Vuelta.

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Is he going to do Flanders with the same tactical nous that he did
Liege-Bastogne-Liege in 2003? If so, I'll pre-order the DVD now. It

will
be Volume 2 in a comedy Monument series.


Spending a lot of energy early in the race can pay off in the Ronde, I
think. It is a race that seems suited to Armstrong's and his team's
abilities, except for their tendency to depend on tactics rather than
dominance of power.

If Armstrong participates, he should be considered a favorite, moreso than
for LBL.




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Old November 17th 04, 03:42 AM
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Jonathon,

I tend to disagree with you. Armstrong formerly was more of a Flanders man
IMHO than a LBL guy because he was muscular and powerful. Now Lance is
ideally suited for races like LBL, the Giro di Lombardia, Amstel (renamed
for '04) and other more undulating parcours. I just don't see him as the
tete de course in a race with a bunch of knarly cobbles.

Flanders is a hard man's race. Lance is smarter than stronger, and his
training programmed would have to change dramatically for him to be ready to
win the spring classics, especially if he intends on winning the Giro and/or
the Vuelta.

-Philip

"Jonathan v.d. Sluis" wrote in message
...

"B. Lafferty" schreef in bericht
nk.net...

"Tom Paterson" wrote in message
...

http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news?slug...ov=reuters&typ
e=lgns

Quoted: "I want to prove to the world I can do this". --TP


Is he going to do Flanders with the same tactical nous that he did
Liege-Bastogne-Liege in 2003? If so, I'll pre-order the DVD now. It

will
be Volume 2 in a comedy Monument series.


Spending a lot of energy early in the race can pay off in the Ronde, I
think. It is a race that seems suited to Armstrong's and his team's
abilities, except for their tendency to depend on tactics rather than
dominance of power.

If Armstrong participates, he should be considered a favorite, moreso than
for LBL.




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Old November 17th 04, 03:54 AM
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Tim Mullin wrote:

"Carl Sundquist" wrote in news:N7omd.17598$233.13301
@okepread05:

I am far from being a LANCEophile, but the dude doesn't have anything to
'prove' on a bicycle.


While I tend to agree, I think you can see where he's going with this. If you
were to build a Mt. Rushmore of Cycling, which faces would you put up there?
Merckx, Coppi, and Hinault, to be sure. Beyond those three there is much room
to debate (I would argure for Gino Bartali), and it's unlikely that outside
the US you'd have many people arguing for LANCE. Sure, as the TdF goes, his
greatness is undisputed, but outside that? This is--I believe--about
_History_.


Lance is certainly aware of the critique about being a one-race pony,
although I too agree with Carl.

* He says he doesn't care about the TdF for 2005 -- thus the pressure is
off.

* He says he wants to try the other races. If he succeeds, that is
great (chaulk 'em up), but no one expects too much...

* Then the TdF rolls around, he hems and haws, but still enters... and
then wins...

So he can take all the pressure off, but maybe shoot for it all without
saying so up front. If he fails... no big deal, he said he wasn't
"trying." If he succeeds, then he increases his stock as an all time
great. Sounds like a plan.
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Old November 17th 04, 03:54 AM
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Tim Mullin wrote:

"Carl Sundquist" wrote in news:N7omd.17598$233.13301
@okepread05:

I am far from being a LANCEophile, but the dude doesn't have anything to
'prove' on a bicycle.


While I tend to agree, I think you can see where he's going with this. If you
were to build a Mt. Rushmore of Cycling, which faces would you put up there?
Merckx, Coppi, and Hinault, to be sure. Beyond those three there is much room
to debate (I would argure for Gino Bartali), and it's unlikely that outside
the US you'd have many people arguing for LANCE. Sure, as the TdF goes, his
greatness is undisputed, but outside that? This is--I believe--about
_History_.


Lance is certainly aware of the critique about being a one-race pony,
although I too agree with Carl.

* He says he doesn't care about the TdF for 2005 -- thus the pressure is
off.

* He says he wants to try the other races. If he succeeds, that is
great (chaulk 'em up), but no one expects too much...

* Then the TdF rolls around, he hems and haws, but still enters... and
then wins...

So he can take all the pressure off, but maybe shoot for it all without
saying so up front. If he fails... no big deal, he said he wasn't
"trying." If he succeeds, then he increases his stock as an all time
great. Sounds like a plan.
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Old November 17th 04, 07:02 AM
Gnome de Ploom
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"Tim Mullin" wrote in message
While I tend to agree, I think you can see where he's going with this. If
you
were to build a Mt. Rushmore of Cycling, which faces would you put up
there?
Merckx, Coppi, and Hinault, to be sure. Beyond those three there is much
room
to debate (I would argure for Gino Bartali), and it's unlikely that
outside
the US you'd have many people arguing for LANCE. Sure, as the TdF goes,
his
greatness is undisputed, but outside that? This is--I believe--about
_History_.



Yer gonna hear from Benjo if ya don't mention Rik van Steenbergen.



 




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